[Chuck Diesel]

Im starting this tread for users of DTH to post how they dosed their DTH, when it kicked in and how they responded to the product.

Ive been getting alot of PM's/emails from users who are on day 8 or day 20 or day whatever asking when its going to kick in, some with lost libido, some who just do whatever dose.

Now as per the instructions you should start at 3/day for 3 days, (pref. 2am, 1 early pm). Then go to 2/2/1 or 2/2/2 then adjust dosage from their based on how you respond.

The directions also say: If you lose libido reduce dosage. I dont know why but I get a lot of PM's saying "DTH droped my libido, what should I do." Most of those people went straight to 6/day and need less pills/day. The same dose isnt the best dose for everyone. Some people who's test levels might go up really fast need less per day because more free test = faster drop in LH as a loop back. Less LH = less libido.

Now for me at 3/4 a day I get good mental focus, increase response to stims, ok libido not really sky high like on 5 day.

On 5/day 2/2/1 I get basically everything in the write up. After about 20 days on 5 day, I usually have to reduce the dosage because I get 2 aggressive.

On 6 day, only tried this about 3 days I get really aggressive, and libido goes away.

I always dose 4 at 2am, 2 mid day, about 20 min before meals.

On 3/day I dose 2am, 1 mid-day but some people might do better with 2 am and 1 early PM.

On 5 day, I run 2am, 2mid, 1 early PM (about 4pm).

If I take DTH after about 6pm I have some crazy psychodelic dreams, with people I havent seen in 20 years or about weird stuff.......and most of the time a few filles in there of course.

[dieselcoop]

currently using DTH
as directed i used 1/1/1 for 3days, i then jumped up to 2/1/1 for a couple days
, and currently at 2/2/1. prob going to stay at this rate
im currently on day 13 and expecting alot out of DTH this next week

intensity- increased
strength- its getting there
muscle hardness- increased
libido- im getting more random bones than usual
aggression-increased but in a good way
acne- no

dreams are getting strange
overall its good stuff, will buy more in the future
a final review will be posted after completion

coop

[Good Shepherd]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

Im starting this tread for users of DTH to post how they dosed their DTH, when it kicked in and how they responded to the product.

Ive been getting alot of PM's/emails from users who are on day 8 or day 20 or day whatever asking when its going to kick in, some with lost libido, some who just do whatever dose.

Now as per the instructions you should start at 3/day for 3 days, (pref. 2am, 1 early pm). Then go to 2/2/1 or 2/2/2 then adjust dosage from their based on how you respond.

The directions also say: If you lose libido reduce dosage. I dont know why but I get a lot of PM's saying "DTH droped my libido, what should I do." Most of those people went straight to 6/day and need less pills/day. The same dose isnt the best dose for everyone. Some people who's test levels might go up really fast need less per day because more free test = faster drop in LH as a loop back. Less LH = less libido.

Now for me at 3/4 a day I get good mental focus, increase response to stims, ok libido not really sky high like on 5 day.

On 5/day 2/2/1 I get basically everything in the write up. After about 20 days on 5 day, I usually have to reduce the dosage because I get 2 aggressive.

On 6 day, only tried this about 3 days I get really aggressive, and libido goes away.

I always dose 4 at 2am, 2 mid day, about 20 min before meals.

On 3/day I dose 2am, 1 mid-day but some people might do better with 2 am and 1 early PM.

On 5 day, I run 2am, 2mid, 1 early PM (about 4pm).

If I take DTH after about 6pm I have some crazy psychodelic dreams, with people I havent seen in 20 years or about weird stuff.......and most of the time a few filles in there of course.

Chuck,
I love it at the 5 on 2 off sch. - I ramp up dosage at week 3 from 2/2/1 to 2/2/2 for 2 weeks and then finish at 3/2/2/ and finally 2/1/1 for an additional week. This works well if Im eating at around 500 cals above maintaince.

Cutting wise Ive had a good experience w/ 3 on 2 off schd. and going with the above dosing. I do use R4w more agressively in this phase as well at 6 caps per work out.

No libido issue.....no shut down.....I think tappering up and down saves me.

[Chuck Diesel]

Originally Posted by Good Shepherd

Chuck,
I love it at the 5 on 2 off sch. - I ramp up dosage at week 3 from 2/2/1 to 2/2/2 for 2 weeks and then finish at 3/2/2/ and finally 2/1/1 for an additional week. This works well if Im eating at around 500 cals above maintaince.

Cutting wise Ive had a good experience w/ 3 on 2 off schd. and going with the above dosing. I do use R4w more agressively hin this phase as well at 6 caps per work out.

Yeah you can do that when stacking DTH with R4W since R4W boost test also, well amplifies the test boosting effects of R4W.

Ive never done over 5 R4W pre-workout but have done 2 at lunch then 4 at 3pm.....nice.

thanks so far for the feedback.

[Good Shepherd]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

Yeah you can do that when stacking DTH with R4W since R4W boost test also, well amplifies the test boosting effects of R4W.

Ive never done over 5 R4W pre-workout but have done 2 at lunch then 4 at 3pm.....nice.

thanks so far for the feedback.

To be honest Chuck, I wouldnt really recommend the 6 of r4w caps to most people, I pick my spots for this. Most of the time its at the end long school at work week when I just dont want to train.....The DTH is a great product, I dont know why most people complain about feel- those same guys are usually shooting themselves in the foot by overdosing and burning out receptors or overtraining and undereating.

[Xodus]

The first time I ran it was part of PCT for a PH cycle. I ran a full bottle at 6/day.

By day 4 or 5, libido was sky high. Oily skin started shortly afterwards with only a slight increase in acne.

Aggression was through the roof throughout the entire bottle.

The second time I ran it was part of PCT for a 16 week injectible cycle. 2 bottles, first at 6/day, second at 6/day but doing the 5/2 protocol. It had less of a libido impact, oily skin was there, slightly less aggression, but a better overall feeling of well being.

I think I actually preferred the 5/2 protocol this time around.

I've got another bottle coming that I will be running in the late fall solo and not part of any PCT.

I'm hooked on this stuff and want to try some of your other products.


Can't say I ever got had any 'dream issues', maybe a few sex dreams, but I don't really remember my dreams anyway.

[Chuck Diesel]

Originally Posted by Xodus

The first time I ran it was part of PCT for a PH cycle. I ran a full bottle at 6/day.

By day 4 or 5, libido was sky high. Oily skin started shortly afterwards with only a slight increase in acne.

Aggression was through the roof throughout the entire bottle.

The second time I ran it was part of PCT for a 16 week injectible cycle. 2 bottles, first at 6/day, second at 6/day but doing the 5/2 protocol. It had less of a libido impact, oily skin was there, slightly less aggression, but a better overall feeling of well being.

I think I actually preferred the 5/2 protocol this time around.

I've got another bottle coming that I will be running in the late fall solo and not part of any PCT.

I'm hooked on this stuff and want to try some of your other products.


Can't say I ever got had any 'dream issues', maybe a few sex dreams, but I don't really remember my dreams anyway.

For you and everyone else what time of day and around meals do you dose.

I dont get the dreams either....unless I take it after 6pm, and the later in the day the more vivid the dreams. Crazy stuff (the dreams).

Anyway Im thinking there is something wrong with the time of day or meals or something with some people's dosing. Every blue moon I will get an email from some guy saying I noticed nothing at all. I just really think they are not absorbing the tabs because just 2 of the ingredients, any 2, at the dosage(s) in DTH would give anyone some results in some department.

[Xodus]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

For you and everyone else what time of day and around meals do you dose.

I dont get the dreams either....unless I take it after 6pm, and the later in the day the more vivid the dreams. Crazy stuff (the dreams).

Anyway Im thinking there is something wrong with the time of day or meals or something with some people's dosing. Every blue moon I will get an email from some guy saying I noticed nothing at all. I just really think they are not absorbing the tabs because just 2 of the ingredients, any 2, at the dosage(s) in DTH would give anyone some results in some department.

I did 3 in the am (6ish), 3 early pm (4ish).

am dosing was just after waking, before shower, pre meal 1.

pm dosing was between meal 4 and pre-workout supps.


What age are these 'non-responders'? A 20yo kid might not feel any different, but a 34yo guy that feels like an 18yo again certainly does!

[Chuck Diesel]

Originally Posted by Xodus

I did 3 in the am (6ish), 3 early pm (4ish).

am dosing was just after waking, before shower, pre meal 1.

pm dosing was between meal 4 and pre-workout supps.


What age are these 'non-responders'? A 20yo kid might not feel any different, but a 34yo guy that feels like an 18yo again certainly does!

All age range, usually its not their age thats consistant its more like they are not following the directions.


Well this is like 5 people in 3 years of selling DTH, but thats more than enough for me and cant see why someone would see absolutley nothing unless they just are not absorbing the tabs. Usually they are people who have never used test boosters either, not that that should matter.

[sw bill]

Hey chuck i am on my 3rd week of DTH and i love it.
Libido is back where it should be and at times way higher than ever.It even hangs a little lower
Aggression is low to medium
Energy is high
Focus is insane
Acne is 0

Since i started DTH Its like someone flipped a light switch.I went from, crabby,tired and not interested, to watch out baby here i come,lol.
I have had the most intense and focused workouts of my life.

I take 1 cap 8:00 am 1 hour after breakfast
2 caps 2:00 pm 2 hours after lunch
1 cap 6:00 which is post workout and 30 min before dinner.

I tried taking 2,2,2 and noticed no difference so i went back to 1,2,1

[Chuck Diesel]

Originally Posted by sw bill

Hey chuck i am on my 3rd week of DTH and i love it.
Libido is back where it should be and at times way higher than ever.It even hangs a little lower
Aggression is low to medium
Energy is high
Focus is insane
Acne is 0

Since i started DTH Its like someone flipped a light switch.I went from, crabby,tired and not interested, to watch out baby here i come,lol.
I have had the most intense and focused workouts of my life.

I take 1 cap 8:00 am 1 hour after breakfast
2 caps 2:00 pm 2 hours after lunch
1 cap 6:00 which is post workout and 30 min before dinner.

I tried taking 2,2,2 and noticed no difference so i went back to 1,2,1

yeah some people get the same results on 4/day than 6 day.

There was this 20 year old on DTH at one of the gym I train at and 4 days into it staight to 6/day he was going "I dont feel anything" then I told him to go to2/1/1 and hes loving it......stop me the other day and said "man im shooting half way across the room" right at the front counter of the gym. I was like "okaaayy thanks for the info., going to workout now."

[3clipseGT]

Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

yeah some people get the same results on 4/day than 6 day.

There was this 20 year old on DTH at one of the gym I train at and 4 days into it staight to 6/day he was going "I dont feel anything" then I told him to go to2/1/1 and hes loving it......stop me the other day and said "man im shooting half way across the room" right at the front counter of the gym. I was like "okaaayy thanks for the info., going to workout now."

I hate it when people get all detailed its like uhhmmm.....awkward!

[Trauma1]

I'll definitley have DTH in my pct in a few months chuck.

Great product brother!

[Kawi636]

Funny this thread pops up because I've been taking DTH and not really noticing anything positive. At 5 a day I noticed dizziness/nausea. Orgasms are weaker. I did work my way up to 5, over the course of about 2 weeks. I have 2 friends who both use DTH and love it. Personally, I'm not feeling anything.