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Old 04-30-2008, 02:38 PM   #1
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Grape Fruit Juice and Supps???

Hey chuck, have a quick question for you! Would ingesting say DTH/TTE/ or Nos Ether be of greater benefit if taken with grape fruit juice! I have seen a few products come out that have narigin in it that supposadly increase the effiacy of the herbs contained! What's your opinion??? I work in a pharmacy and know that there are quite a few interactions with actually drugs and grapefruit juice! I know it can increase a few but have always been told not t ingest any medication with grapefruit juice just to be on the safe side!
 
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Hey chuck, have a quick question for you! Would ingesting say DTH/TTE/ or Nos Ether be of greater benefit if taken with grape fruit juice! I have seen a few products come out that have narigin in it that supposadly increase the effiacy of the herbs contained! What's your opinion??? I work in a pharmacy and know that there are quite a few interactions with actually drugs and grapefruit juice! I know it can increase a few but have always been told not t ingest any medication with grapefruit juice just to be on the safe side!
there is this substance in grapefruit juice that increases the half life of some actives and drugs because the active in the grapefruit prevents the "said active/drug" from being broken down in the liver but Im not sure there is anything in those products you listed that would better absorb with grapefruit juice.

DTH is enteric coated and time released with bioperine so its not going to absorb better than that. Not really sure on the bioavail of nettle. NOS ETHER is absorbed really well.

What I do is mix about 3-4oz of aloe vera juice in my NOS ETHER mixture for better absorbtion but I have had reduced nutr. absorbtion since I had a hernia removed and my gall bladder taken out in 2003. But U can try that, anything you take with aloe vera is absorbed way better. Esp. glucosamine and chondrotin.
 



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there is this substance in grapefruit juice that increases the half life of some actives and drugs because the active in the grapefruit prevents the "said active/drug" from being broken down in the liver but Im not sure there is anything in those products you listed that would better absorb with grapefruit juice.

DTH is enteric coated and time released with bioperine so its not going to absorb better than that. Not really sure on the bioavail of nettle. NOS ETHER is absorbed really well.

What I do is mix about 3-4oz of aloe vera juice in my NOS ETHER mixture for better absorbtion but I have had reduced nutr. absorbtion since I had a hernia removed and my gall bladder taken out in 2003. But U can try that, anything you take with aloe vera is absorbed way better. Esp. glucosamine and chondrotin.
That's some cool stuff... I am going to snag this to use with my PCT protocol @ 4 caps day. 2/1/1
 



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Def. going to grab up some aloe vera now! Hey, its good for you too haha One more question for you chuck! I am starting my cut mon! My main supps are DCP/Levi-r/Napalm/NOS Ether. I am so anxious to try DTH/TTE stack! What I was going to do is do a very lean bulk after my cut of DTH/TTE mega dose fish oil/Rdy 4 war with nos Ether! Maybe throw in a custom capsule insulin control formula with banaba and a few goodies! My question is do you think it would be more beneficial to start the DTH/TTE stack as soon as I start my cut? Torwards the end of my cut? Right after my cut? Thanks again for all your help!
 
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is there a brand of Aloe Vera juice you use.

I have tasted straight Aloe Vera and it is really horrible. Hard to describe but extremely bitter with the consistency of snot. I had an older relative that would drink it homemade every morning to control diabetes with out drugs. This was years ago before it started showing up in anything commercail. Truly some very nasty stuff...
 
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is there a brand of Aloe Vera juice you use.

I have tasted straight Aloe Vera and it is really horrible. Hard to describe but extremely bitter with the consistency of snot. I had an older relative that would drink it homemade every morning to control diabetes with out drugs. This was years ago before it started showing up in anything commercail. Truly some very nasty stuff...
the good stuff is from south texas in a white bottle, cant remember the name, taste really bad tho', some of the grocery stores here have it. Other than that you can get another good brand of the juice from GNC in the big brown jug for like $20, just make sure its the juice not the gel.
 



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Hey chuck, have a quick question for you! Would ingesting say DTH/TTE/ or Nos Ether be of greater benefit if taken with grape fruit juice! I have seen a few products come out that have narigin in it that supposadly increase the effiacy of the herbs contained! What's your opinion??? I work in a pharmacy and know that there are quite a few interactions with actually drugs and grapefruit juice! I know it can increase a few but have always been told not t ingest any medication with grapefruit juice just to be on the safe side!
theres actually quite a few different constituents in grapefruit juice that increase half life of supps. it increases absorption (but not as well as bioperine) but more-so keeps whatever it is you take, in your system longer. ALOT longer! grapefruit juice has some extracts in it that inhibit a cytochrome p450 which is highly concentrated in the small intestines and liver. this enzyme plays a key role in the removal of MANY different drugs. so inhibiting it keeps the drugs circulating longer. which is why im taking it on my cycle!

i actually just eat like a quarter grapefruit with every meal which is more than enough because grapefruit is on eof the strongest cyp3a4 inhibitors and lasts the longest too. it was atleast 24hours i believe. freakin awesome right? so you get more bang for your buck.

oh grapefruit juice works good too. better than extract because the juice contains tons of different stuff. oh and naringen isnt a major contributor. bergamottin is.

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