diesel did'nt lie

thebigt · 12-22-2007, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

pregnelone doesnt have a "cummulative" effect nor has there been shown to be an "overdose" amount. Its something that works to the tune of if you take 2 much it wont work better or cause an adverse reaction BUT I wouldnt take over 100mg at one time or a day.

thats the answer i was looking for.

thebigt · 12-29-2007, 01:53 PM

my order is on the way, will start new diesel stack at start of the year.

Chuck Diesel · 12-30-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

my order is on the way, will start new diesel stack at start of the year.

What stack you running?

thebigt · 12-30-2007, 09:13 PM

dthc, will start at 3ed. tte will do 3ed. and raw test with my r4w pre workout, havent decided on dosing yet. im starting out low on dthc because of adding the raw test, plan on adjusting dose up on dthc after i see how i react to the raw test, but i think this is a good place to start. after what reaper said about raw test, am excited to add this. will probably start out with 2 r4w and 1 raw test an hour pre and 1 r4w/1 raw test right before.

thebigt · 12-30-2007, 09:32 PM

btw, ordered the dthc from --- with the free raw test, what version will that be?

Chuck Diesel · 12-31-2007, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

btw, ordered the dthc from --- with the free raw test, what version will that be?

Thats the Hardcore thats out right now, white bottle. No one has the red bottle yet so if you order from D P S and the picture on their website is the white one then your getting the white bottle.........but u get a free RAW TEST with each DTH over there.

That sucks sup. companies can be board sponsors, but you cannot mention another discount online retailer on AM except Nutraplanet. That doesnt make sense to me. The board sponsors have to make money by selling through all their retailers. Thats like if NP only sold the lines that are AM board sponsors, that wouldnt happen.

thebigt · 12-31-2007, 10:03 AM

what do you think of the dosing plan i have laid out? think 3ed will be enough dthc to start since im adding the tte and raw test? from what reaper says 2r4w 1raw test hour pre workout and 1/1 right before sounds like a good place to start. diesel i beg you man, dont mess with r4w that shiiit is goood!

celc5 · 12-31-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

what do you think of the dosing plan i have laid out? think 3ed will be enough dthc to start since im adding the tte and raw test? from what reaper says 2r4w 1raw test hour pre workout and 1/1 right before sounds like a good place to start. diesel i beg you man, dont mess with r4w that shiiit is goood!

bigT, this is your post cycle therapy stack, correct? You have me itching to try R4W. It'll be in my next order for sure bro.

thebigt · 12-31-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by celc5

bigT, this is your post cycle therapy stack, correct? You have me itching to try R4W. It'll be in my next order for sure bro.

you can thank me in advance bro.

yeah im about done with a bottle of novadex xt, so when my diesel stack gets here that will be my pct. of course as always i have backup if needed. from my experience with dthc and furazadrol im pretty certain this will cover it.

Chuck Diesel · 12-31-2007, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by thebigt

what do you think of the dosing plan i have laid out? think 3ed will be enough dthc to start since im adding the tte and raw test? from what reaper says 2r4w 1raw test hour pre workout and 1/1 right before sounds like a good place to start. diesel i beg you man, dont mess with r4w that shiiit is goood!

sorry already messed with the R4W formula but I promise the 5capsule formula thats coming out in late Jan is "good....er."

3/day is ok to start with with TTE and Raw for sure, R4W with 1 raw test pre-workout is good. I do that or 2 raw test 2 hours pre-workout then a "shot gun 1 r4w cap" 1 hour pre-workout with 2 NOS Precursor's. NOS Precursor gives me some increased training intensity.

thebigt · 12-31-2007, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

sorry already messed with the R4W formula but I promise the 5capsule formula thats coming out in late Jan is "good....er."

3/day is ok to start with with TTE and Raw for sure, R4W with 1 raw test pre-workout is good. I do that or 2 raw test 2 hours pre-workout then a "shot gun 1 r4w cap" 1 hour pre-workout with 2 NOS Precursor's. NOS Precursor gives me some increased training intensity.

damn man, im going to have to buy stock in your company. btw i hope you are right about r4w got to admit i like it just fine as it is.

celc5 · 12-31-2007, 04:29 PM

Chuck, in a very broad general sense, do companies change their products based on customer feedback, because they simply run out of raw materials, or for marketing reasons?

ReaperX · 12-31-2007, 11:01 PM

bigt-

The RT 2, R4W 1 (1 hr pre), then RT 1, R4W 1 right before will be a good starting spot. Stacking that with DTH will be plenty, if you run also Trib Test then that'll be nuts, but R4W,Raw Test, and DTH will make a great combo.

The Raw Test+R4W is a good combination to use post-cycle of furz.

One of my buddies is going to run 3 bottles back to back of Furz. I've thought about running Furza as well, but you need several bottles and around 5-6 caps, due to the lymphatic uptake. The Novadex XT (ATD) is plenty for Furza, Halodrol, hell even my friend who uses Phera-Plex (DMT) uses it as well PCT.

On a side note (sorry in advance for the hijacking), I like the new bottles of Diesel Nutrition, but the original white bottles never really bothered me. I know I'll probably catch shlt for this anyway, but am.com is flat out ridiculous. Anytime anyone ever disagrees with the 'norm' they get flamed. My side by side comparison with R4W and RPM is a good example. Furthermore, I always see people running polls on what the 'best blah blah' is. Well that is hard to determine since the majority of the people have not used all products.

This is probably also my biggest pet peeve of them all, but the 'internet gurus' that swarm this forum. People basically hand down information by word of mouth combined with heavy steroid use. However, they lack the formal education or knowledge to know the chemical interactions on a metabolic level. Anytime I have a question, I typically email either Patrick Arnold, or my old organic chem prof., plus too I have a masters in biochem as well, so I don't just talk out of my ass, while using 'google' as the information 'gospel'.

I have been around for about 6 months now, and I still believe that there is some positive information to be gained from the forum. However, I feel that am.com is greatly perverted by advertisers and promotions for crap. There is one company in particular who is currently pushing a new product which is a slam dunk for pissing away money in the toilet. If they took the time to research their ingredients better they'd realize that they are only 'half-way' there.

I remember the second round of Diesel Test Hardcore loggers, I was the only one who ran a log. The first run there were several loggers, but the second time when Diesel Test Hardcore was released I was the only one who applied (I ran the only log on am.com the second time). I'm pretty blown away that people would not want an opportunity to try a new product and log it. I'm dead serious when I mean that I was the ONLY one logging DTH the second round.

Anyways, that's my end rant. The bottles before were great and the new bottles are great. At the end of the day, the only thing that matters to me is the quality of what is inside them.

**Jayhawkk** · 01-01-2008, 07:35 AM

It seems that you are not happy here at all Reaper. If you need help removing yourself from this addiction that is controlling your life. Just let me know. I have no problem with researching information, having doubts, and not believing a lot of what is out there but to bash AM.com like it is anything different than any other forum out there (in regards to 'gurus' bogus products etc) then you should return your Masters and exchange it for common sense.

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I remember the second round of Diesel Test Hardcore loggers, I was the only one who ran a log. The first run there were several loggers, but the second time when Diesel Test Hardcore was released I was the only one who applied (I ran the only log on am.com the second time). I'm pretty blown away that people would not want an opportunity to try a new product and log it. I'm dead serious when I mean that I was the ONLY one logging DTH the second round.

Running a log properly takes a lot of time and devotion. Unless of course you're fine with people faking their way through it for free supps. This time of year is hard on most people in a lot of ways and people can not devote proper time for these logs. I still owe a company here a log that I have prolonged way too long in order to do it properly.

Not all of us are wealthy, stress free, highly educated people with a **** load of time to post how bad a place is and continue to hang around.