diesel did'nt lie

nelix · 12-15-2007, 09:01 AM

I know chuck was standing over you when you wrote this.

That said, if I could import R4W into Australia I would.

thebigt · 12-15-2007, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by nelix

I know chuck was standing over you when you wrote this.

That said, if I could import R4W into Australia I would.

shiit, why the hell would anyone come to indianapolis that did'nt have to. seriously, i can afford to buy the supps i want, if i find something that works i say so. r4w works. i wasted my money on 3 bottles of rpm before i tried r4w.

nelix · 12-15-2007, 09:47 AM

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shiit, why the hell would anyone come to indianapolis that did'nt have to. seriously, i can afford to buy the supps i want, if i find something that works i say so. r4w works. i wasted my money on 3 bottles of rpm before i tried r4w.

Well you are obviously ready for war :P
I tried RPM (5 bottles lol) and I enjoyed it, I would like to try R4W but it contains banned imports.

I was just kidding about chuck, just reading his posts gets me motivated.

Lanbane · 12-15-2007, 10:33 AM

bigt, I'm about 45 min away from ya!

thebigt · 12-15-2007, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lanbane

bigt, I'm about 45 min away from ya!

coming or going? just kidding. let me guess, i would say columbus ohio. hey, you tried r4w?

Chuck Diesel · 12-15-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Bone

Thats funny, better than RPM?. How can you say that?. Just look at the ingredient list, it has more ingredients, including stimulants!. RPM only has a little bit of Caffiene in it. Besides it does have Long Jack in it which is worthless unless dosed correctly. See the following link for dosing Tongkat Ali correctly,

Tongkat ali / How to use, dosage / Tongkat Ali dosage

What are you saying? Look at the ingredients list of what RPM or R4W? Who lied to you and said RPM has "a little" caffeine? Anyway Im not going to make this an RPM/R4W thread, there is a thread on that and u read what people say for yourself:

RPM vs. R4W review.

Chuck Diesel · 12-15-2007, 12:57 PM

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just an update, r4w is kickin. no tolerance build-up yet. best overall pre-workout by far. still feel great.

I never saw this thread, maybe I need to stop working so much and check this section more often. What I think people dont understand is I have been formulating products since 1999 and selling them since 2002, I know the industry, I know what works. Everything Im doing right now is a complex formulation that works on many different pathways and 100% results driven. I dont build any product around one "super" ingredient like Icariins or geranamine (or whatever its called). Thats when you get none-responders. I got some new packaging on deck for 2008 but you guys will see, by summer 2008 DTH, Ready4War and NOS ETHER (not forgetting TTE and Coq DIESEL) will finally get its due respect.

I make products for people training at the "powerlifter, athlete" level. Thats my target market so I never worry about some product selling on pretty glow in the dark pills to out shine my products. They might sell more because GET DIESEL doesnt have the advertising budget and the dist. of the Ergopharm's, Gaspari's and Applied, but when it comes to results and bang for the buck........come on.

T-Bone · 12-15-2007, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

What are you saying? Look at the ingredients list of what RPM or R4W? Who lied to you and said RPM has "a little" caffeine? Anyway Im not going to make this an RPM/R4W thread, there is a thread on that and u read what people say for yourself:

RPM vs. R4W review.

I was just trying to say that the Amount of Long Jack in it will not have any effect, not saying the other ingredients won't do anything but the Long Jack is just a waste in my opinion. The product probally does work well according to the reviews I have seen, but I would much rather see more of the other ingredients and the Long Jack taken out.

Chuck Diesel · 12-15-2007, 01:12 PM

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I was just trying to say that the Amount of Long Jack in it will not have any effect, not saying the other ingredients won't do anything but the Long Jack is just a waste in my opinion. The product probally does work well according to the reviews I have seen, but I would much rather see more of the other ingredients and the Long Jack taken out.

Here we go again. There are 2 many "this isnt enough, take this out, do this do that." I would be content with me saying I know how much lj100 is an effective dose. I know how much is needed in R4W. Thats one of the reasons I do prop. blends, people spend 2 much time analyzing sup facts and not enough time listening to the feedback.

thebigt · 12-15-2007, 01:13 PM

chuck, got some other things going on right now. planning on dthc/tte/r4w in january. diesel-products that work, without the hype.

radaruckus · 12-16-2007, 09:59 AM

can someone compare r4w pills to the powder, because the powder, although it tasted awful, had me wired for hours, it also gave me great mood. I can only find the powder at certain online retailers but if the pills are just as good as the powder than I will pick those up.

ReaperX · 12-16-2007, 01:21 PM

bigt-

You should try adding Raw Test into the mix. I had a bottle awhile back and I did 1-2 tabs one hour pre-workout. Only use on workout days. I think you might like it.

thebigt · 12-17-2007, 07:58 AM

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bigt-

You should try adding Raw Test into the mix. I had a bottle awhile back and I did 1-2 tabs one hour pre-workout. Only use on workout days. I think you might like it.

thanks reaper, thats on of the few diesel products i have'nt tried. got a bonus from work coming up, big order planned.

celc5 · 12-17-2007, 10:23 AM

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got a bonus from work coming up

Congrats on the bonus BigT! I picked up my current nha stack and some post cycle goodies with my bonus as well

How's the progress coming with furaz?

BigT, does R4W have a "pump" ingredient? I'd actually prefer a stim that does NOT instigate pumps because I cramped pretty badly on my last cycle. I'm just thinking out loud for when I run phera next month.

thebigt · 12-17-2007, 12:40 PM

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Congrats on the bonus BigT! I picked up my current nha stack and some post cycle goodies with my bonus as well

How's the progress coming with furaz?

BigT, does R4W have a "pump" ingredient? I'd actually prefer a stim that does NOT instigate pumps because I cramped pretty badly on my last cycle. I'm just thinking out loud for when I run phera next month.

bring it on, celc. i emphatically approve of r4w. the furzadrol cycle is almost over. im using diesel products almost exclusively for pct-going to throw in some e-form and resveratrol. imho r4w runs circles around the other stuff thats out there. pct will include r4w/dthc/tte and reapers suggestion raw test. after pct my fat burning stack will include leviathan reloaded stacked with r4w-killer fatburning energy stack. 2 levi 2 r4w and i feel like i could lift a ton for reps.