Chuck, is thier advantage taking NOS ether and R4W as opposed to just JP8 preworkout. I notice that the ingredients are slightly different. Currently i take 2 scoops of JP8 preworkout and 1 scoop of the old NOS ether i have laying around. Would 3 scoops of the New NOS ether plus 5 R4W be a more potent option? Just curious.