DIESEL TEST Hardcore fall 2008 sup facts

subweevil · 09-29-2008, 08:06 AM

Hey Chuck, How goes it? I stacked Activate Extreme with Lean Extreme, but I'm always open to new ideas. Wow, real impressed at how quick you checked back on this thread and replied. Anyways, I've tried Superpump 250, Black Powder and Vassive prior to trying your JP8, but never dosed them high ( 1 scoop only) and got good results with them, some better than others. I was sooo stoked when I saw the package sitting on my doorstep, I ordered it on the deal Nutraplanet had on it, that was killer. I Dosed one scoop about 15 mins. before my workout, as things tend to hit me pretty quick. Hadn't eaten for like an hour before, give or take a few minutes. The meal wasn't high in fiber or fats, mostly protein with a slice of whole wheat bread. Got to the gym feeling motivated, did my workout and didn't really notice too much. This cycle happened for the 1st three times I used it, then I decided to bump it up to 1.5 scoops, as I prefer gradual results to drastic results. Oh boy!! Let me say that I have NEVER been this focused when getting to the gym, seriously. Meal was pretty much the same, but results where much different. This is by far the best supp for focus that I have ever tried. My results seem to be getting better the more I use it. I workout 2 days on, 2 days off and on my off days it's cardio and abs. Tried it with my cardio just the other day for giggles and really noticed the endurance and sweating factor of it. Downed some Extend after 1st HIIT cardio session, then hit abs, followed by more regular cardio and abs again, but it was real obvious JP8 was working. Also got a really good pump from it, and this was pretty much the first time I've noticed that. This product for me really gives me the focus and apparently more endurance, but not as much pump, which is fine by me. My workouts have something to do with the pump too, and I'm sure once I hit the higher reps, it will show up in force. Now for the bad, if you call it that, which I really don't. The taste kinda hit me harder than my sparring partners, wasn't expecting that, even after having read the label. Never knew I had a gag reflex until I tried to down my first dose. However, I am impressed with the taste because that means only good stuff is in it, with no crap!! Besides, I bought it for the results not the taste, so please don't feel I'm bagging on it, I prefer it to be as natural as possible. I feel you have developed a very solid product, and I would most definitely buy it again. I am sure the pumps will be easier on this product if I was working in the higher rep ranges, and I will post back when that happens. I weigh around 200lbs if that helps. 1.5 seems to be the magic number for me, about 15 mins. prior. I am definitely ordering the new DTH, any ideas you have additionally would be most welcome. Take care!!

subweevil · 09-29-2008, 08:43 AM

Oh, almost forgot. Another great thing about JP8 is the gradual let down, instead of a sudden crash, it was markedly less than others I have tried, very welcome. Also, sorry about the copy of War and Peace above, tried to be detailed.

**Mach .78** · 09-29-2008, 09:55 AM

If you want to really throw down in the gym, take your Jp8

dose 45 minutes before and a Geranamine cap 20 minutes

prior. Dude, makes me feel like a Cyborg with the cool "red

laser eyes" and everything.

Can't wait to try the new DTHC.

I take 2 scoops and I'm 196 right now.

Chuck Diesel · 09-29-2008, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by subweevil

Hey Chuck, How goes it? I stacked Activate Extreme with Lean Extreme, but I'm always open to new ideas. Wow, real impressed at how quick you checked back on this thread and replied. Anyways, I've tried Superpump 250, Black Powder and Vassive prior to trying your JP8, but never dosed them high ( 1 scoop only) and got good results with them, some better than others. I was sooo stoked when I saw the package sitting on my doorstep, I ordered it on the deal Nutraplanet had on it, that was killer. I Dosed one scoop about 15 mins. before my workout, as things tend to hit me pretty quick. Hadn't eaten for like an hour before, give or take a few minutes. The meal wasn't high in fiber or fats, mostly protein with a slice of whole wheat bread. Got to the gym feeling motivated, did my workout and didn't really notice too much. This cycle happened for the 1st three times I used it, then I decided to bump it up to 1.5 scoops, as I prefer gradual results to drastic results. Oh boy!! Let me say that I have NEVER been this focused when getting to the gym, seriously. Meal was pretty much the same, but results where much different. This is by far the best supp for focus that I have ever tried. My results seem to be getting better the more I use it. I workout 2 days on, 2 days off and on my off days it's cardio and abs. Tried it with my cardio just the other day for giggles and really noticed the endurance and sweating factor of it. Downed some Extend after 1st HIIT cardio session, then hit abs, followed by more regular cardio and abs again, but it was real obvious JP8 was working. Also got a really good pump from it, and this was pretty much the first time I've noticed that. This product for me really gives me the focus and apparently more endurance, but not as much pump, which is fine by me. My workouts have something to do with the pump too, and I'm sure once I hit the higher reps, it will show up in force. Now for the bad, if you call it that, which I really don't. The taste kinda hit me harder than my sparring partners, wasn't expecting that, even after having read the label. Never knew I had a gag reflex until I tried to down my first dose. However, I am impressed with the taste because that means only good stuff is in it, with no crap!! Besides, I bought it for the results not the taste, so please don't feel I'm bagging on it, I prefer it to be as natural as possible. I feel you have developed a very solid product, and I would most definitely buy it again. I am sure the pumps will be easier on this product if I was working in the higher rep ranges, and I will post back when that happens. I weigh around 200lbs if that helps. 1.5 seems to be the magic number for me, about 15 mins. prior. I am definitely ordering the new DTH, any ideas you have additionally would be most welcome. Take care!!

Thats good you like it compared to all the other pre-workout products you have used. 15min. pre-workout is fast, I take my JP8 1h pre-workout. That focus and drive and endurance is exactly what I want people to get from the product because everyone else is doing "caffeine energy, arginine" pre-workout products with little to actually do with mental focus and drive or endurance.

Chuck Diesel · 09-29-2008, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mach .78

If you want to really throw down in the gym, take your Jp8

dose 45 minutes before and a Geranamine cap 20 minutes

prior. Dude, makes me feel like a Cyborg with the cool "red

laser eyes" and everything.

Can't wait to try the new DTHC.

I take 2 scoops and I'm 196 right now.

The next batch of JP8 **might** have 1,3-dimethylamylamine in it but thats "on deck" right now and wouldnt be avail. until every single bottle of the current JP8 was sold. Ive used 20mg of 1,3-dimethylamylamine with 2 scoops of JP8 and it pushed me hard like 5 ready4war caps, I just dont like how 1,3-dimethylamylamine supresses my appetite.

subweevil · 09-29-2008, 04:22 PM

Well, you really hit the nail on the head with this, the focus and drive is there. It's not a "Stimmed out" drive or lack of focus it gives you, more like a laser guided missle focus versus a cluster bomb going off all over the place. Wow, 1 hr. before, I'd be motivated and focused with nothing to do,lol!! think I'm alsos going to have to try NOS Ether, based on this product alone. Can't wait to order a bottle of DTH as well. Thanks!!

**Mach .78** · 09-29-2008, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

The next batch of JP8 **might** have 1,3-dimethylamylamine in it but thats "on deck" right now and wouldnt be avail. until every single bottle of the current JP8 was sold. Ive used 20mg of 1,3-dimethylamylamine with 2 scoops of JP8 and it pushed me hard like 5 ready4war caps, I just dont like how 1,3-dimethylamylamine supresses my appetite.

Now you're talking. I'm not sure what the nutra caps dose was but most were cutting the dose in half. I tried one and stayed with it until Jp8 came into my life. I just added the JP8 to it.

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I just dont like how 1,3-dimethylamylamine supresses my appetite

May I suggest some GHRP-6? Check the peptides section.

JaredGalloway · 10-01-2008, 05:30 AM

Chuck, what made you decide to take cordyceps out of the blend?...Not worth it compared to the other adaptogenic herbs contained in DTH?
Also why did u incorporate capsicum in your new version of DTH?
Heres one more question then ill leave you alone...Is the mucuna pruriens extract pretty high (i no u cant divulge any info but a yes or no would be good enough for me)

Steveoph · 10-01-2008, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mach .78

Now you're talking. I'm not sure what the nutra caps dose was but most were cutting the dose in half. I tried one and stayed with it until Jp8 came into my life. I just added the JP8 to it.

60mg, Geranium Extract (60 mg/100 caps) By: NutraPlanet . 20-30mg would be interesting addition, I can't imagine getting anymore pump/focus!

Chuck Diesel · 10-01-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JaredGalloway

Chuck, what made you decide to take cordyceps out of the blend?...Not worth it compared to the other adaptogenic herbs contained in DTH?
Also why did u incorporate capsicum in your new version of DTH?
Heres one more question then ill leave you alone...Is the mucuna pruriens extract pretty high (i no u cant divulge any info but a yes or no would be good enough for me)

took out the cordy to put more long jack, most products I do have ginger and capsicum for nutrient transport, the last few runs of dth had it. the mucuna is there for L-dopa but know I'm not going to talk about the extract

JaredGalloway · 10-01-2008, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel

took out the cordy to put more long jack, most products I do have ginger and capsicum for nutrient transport, the last few runs of dth had it. the mucuna is there for L-dopa but know I'm not going to talk about the extract

sounds good...thanks

Frequency · 10-04-2008, 06:06 PM

I didnt really feel anything from the last version but im looking forward to giving this new version a shot.

E J · 10-04-2008, 06:47 PM

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I didnt really feel anything from the last version but im looking forward to giving this new version a shot.

I thought it was great. Well I guess there are non responders for everything. How long and what dose did you try?

Frequency · 10-04-2008, 11:45 PM

started will 6 a day and bumped it to 8. did it for 30 days. I didnt have blood test done or anything so im not saying it didnt do anything but i definitely didnt feel anything. I know DTH is a quality product so i definitely want get a couple of bottles of the new formula and give it another shot. I would like to do some blood test as well but i dont know if i can work it in with work