Transdermal - useful for non-competition fat loss?
08-11-2011 10:37 AM
I applied a bit more this morning, and it definitely was warm !!
I have to apply it in a ventilated room as the fumes off the Eviscerate really does take your breath away and makes you cough.
08-11-2011 10:49 AM
I am watching your Eviscerate journey so please keep up the updates. I am waiting for Abliderate to make it's way over here but if Eviscerate impresses me I might get that in the interim.
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08-11-2011 12:21 PM
You should have just asked for a log man, I have no issues with doing one.
Originally Posted by bdcc
Unfortunately I cannot add links to photos, or photos directly of progress (due to post count, but i'm working on that!).
Day 1 - After morning shower, applied Eviscerate. Noticed NO burn/heat effects, but it did sting. Applied second use at 7pm. Noticed that the area became itchy (like a rash-like feeling - but no redness or soreness, so no allergic reaction).
Day 2 - After shower, applied Eviscerate. I applied more than usual, and so far - had the heat sensation pretty much all day on abdominal area - no sensations on hip fat (love handles).
Perhaps a combination of Eviscerate, Alpha-T2, Erase and healthy diet but i'm losing around 0.7lb per day. Muscle mass doesn't seem to be effected at all. Once this leaning phase is complete, I would consider bulking up/getting more muscle mass. This product so far is one I would continue use if the physical sensation is one that continues.
On both days so far, I have had to use the Eviscerate in a well-ventilated room as the fumes really do catch your breath. I do not have asthma or any breathing issues and have no known allergies to anything (except Sharks, but that is another story).
08-11-2011 02:08 PM
OG and SMOLDER will be arriving in approximately 10 days in the UK.
08-11-2011 02:09 PM
Abliderate as well, but he only ordered 100 units.
The Advanced version will be making its way over there in about 8 weeks.
08-11-2011 03:28 PM
Advanced Abdliderate? What is the difference between that and the basic version?
08-11-2011 03:29 PM
08-11-2011 03:36 PM
VeeSix, it is very kind of you to offer to log it. I wouldn't ask someone to do that, it is a big favour! It is very kind of you to offer though, thank you.
Matt, I wasn't around for Abliderate before and don't know the strength of it systemically. Do people suffer from joint issues or other signs of low cortisol when this is used on it's own or stacked with something like Erase?
08-11-2011 03:38 PM
Abliderate is not systemic, but uses the Unmatched Avant Localized Topical. There are no systemic side effects, only suppression of 11b-HSD locally in the ab region.
08-11-2011 05:12 PM
What would you say is better for shifting Ab fat - Eviscerate (OG) or Abliderate?
08-11-2011 05:16 PM
Assuming you are talking about Subcutaneous fat, definitely Eviscerate.
08-11-2011 05:31 PM
Interesting! Is that due to the potency of Eviscerate?
bdcc - I have used Eviscerate alongside Alpha-T2 and Erase and have no side effects with joint related issues. Despite common sense seeming that any dermal application would eventually be moved to the blood/lymphatic system, I can say that it doesn't seem to have occurred so far.
08-11-2011 05:48 PM
I think it's more the mechanism. Abliderate is more for VAT while the Eviscerate series is more for SAT (the jiggly crap!).
Originally Posted by VeeSix
Or do what I do and use both. Cortisol control+the SAT killing power of Eviscerate.
Can't wait to see what D has cooked up with Abliderate advanced.
08-11-2011 07:49 PM
Nailed it perfectly.
Originally Posted by seccsi
08-12-2011 08:12 PM
Day 3 - Yowser.
Had the burn sensation all night and even after my shower the next morning for about 2hrs afterwards!
I applied when the burn stopped. I also found out that scratching you ears/balls will result in the burn even if you washed your hands 4 times after application. I have now invested in several pairs of disposable gloves to avoid this unique experience.
The combination of my stack and Eviscerate is trimming away my abdominal fat (the jiggly stuff,as put above). On tensing up, more ab muscle definition is becoming apparent (from solid fat to 2-3 differentiated areas). Even better is the physical prodding as it feels like the layer of fat is being reduced very fast.
Only downside (aside from burning hot testicles - oops!) is that the burn sometimes turns to an itch, but only for 10-15mins after application.
I've reduced lifting for now, and focussing more on HIIT and simple compound exercises to shed the fat. Once this is achieved, I will continue on Eviscerate but change my stack to stims/testboosts.
08-15-2011 08:56 AM
Update to Day 5...
Wow. The burn continues after and during a shower; at night when the duvet is over you, the burn starts again. I have needed to reduce the shower temperature as the areas of application become hyper-sensitive, virtually amplification the perceived temperature of the skin there. This is purely sensation as the actual temperature is far less than perceived.
At Day 7 I will upload some shameful before/better after (week progress) pics.
I've found that it does indeed stain the matress cover, so may need to invest in another shower pre-bed. Also noticed it appears to come off in tiny bobbles - after a night's sleep, the bed is covered in a layer of tiny orange/brown balls which can just be brushed off. Don't know if this is dead skin or the solution itself.
So far I can state that the burn sensation took 1 day to take effect, but since then, it does indeed flare up.
08-17-2011 11:41 AM
The product contains several thickeners that can combine with dead skin to form the little balls. A good exfoliation will not only increase effectiveness but reduce the amount of slough off.
08-17-2011 11:50 AM
My Eviscerate is on the way. Naturally I acted proudly and thought "it can't burn me that much!" No Smolder for me, let's see if I regret that decision.
08-17-2011 11:59 AM
My bets are on the table here, the first day will be itchy, then the second day will burn. After a shower you may be left with red marks on the skin but they fade soon after.
Originally Posted by bdcc
One thing is certain though bdcc, I need it more than you lol!
08-17-2011 12:10 PM
That is very kind of you to say so, thank you. My avatar is an old photo, I had a shoot last week when I came in looking much sharper.
I am due for a second meeting with a specialist modelling agency who supply the majority of cover models to Men's Health magazine so it is an excuse to spend a bit more on the fat loss side of things. I would like Eviscerate to help tighten me up a bit but think it might interrupt my sauna dehydration judging by what you say lol.
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