What about a product like Quadracarn?

[Mr.50]

DSADE,

Do you seen any usefulness to a multi carnitine product like Quadracarn but obviously at a higher dosage of each and possibly more economical? Rather then buying 3 or 4 different forms of carnitine.....

Propionyl, acetyl, L-Tartrate, etc....

Mr.50

[phantom]

I kow dsade mentioned a while ago he wanted to do a carnitine complex formula-not sure what the status is. On the bright side, he mentioned PLCAR will be back under Genomyx soon, and plcar is darn hard to find

[dsade]

I'm looking at doing a liquid carnitine complex.

[Mr.50]

I'm looking at doing a liquid carnitine complex.

Excellent......how about with Ubiquinol, pqp, and quercetin??? LOL

Mr.50

[dsade]

Excellent......how about with Ubiquinol, pqp, and quercetin??? LOL

Mr.50

Now you're trampling on the upcoming PreWorkout supp.

[Mr.50]

Now you're trampling on the upcoming PreWorkout supp.

oh oh........now im excited! The liquid carn and the pre workout are a combo ill be buying for sure!

Mr.50

[Mr.50]

DSADE,

Do you think there is any truth to Carnitine in any of its forms somehow blocking nuclear binding of Thyroid hormones.... etc? I know there is some implication from one or 2 research studies but has it born out and how much of a negative effect on metabolism might that actually casue in the real world?

Mr.50

[dsade]

DSADE,

Do you think there is any truth to Carnitine in any of its forms somehow blocking nuclear binding of Thyroid hormones.... etc? I know there is some implication from one or 2 research studies but has it born out and how much of a negative effect on metabolism might that actually casue in the real world?

Mr.50

I'm not finding anything with a quick search.

[Mr.50]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15591013


here is one..... I'll look for more when I can

[Mr.50]

one more.....same author.....

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11201848


Mr.50

[phantom]

bump for this- never heard this about carnitine b4

[Mr.50]

bump for your thoughts DSADE?

Mr.50

[dsade]

bump for your thoughts DSADE?



Mr.50

I'm seeing an effect noted in peripheral tissues only, which COULD prove to be significant, or not.

Going to take a lot more thinking on it, for sure.

[monstermash]

I'm seeing an effect noted in peripheral tissues only, which COULD prove to be significant, or not.

Going to take a lot more thinking on it, for sure.

Definitely need to know since I love cycling carnitines.

[dsade]

Definitely need to know since I love cycling carnitines.

It doesn't appear to affect central thyroid action, so my initial thinking is that any suppression of effect will be minimal.

[phantom]

been using carnitines on and off for 3 years now-never noticed any kinda weight gain/low thyroid symptoms on it-if anything, plcar def helps me lean out. If there is minimal suppression, I'm guessing action would return to normal after stoppping usage?

[dsade]

been using carnitines on and off for 3 years now-never noticed any kinda weight gain/low thyroid symptoms on it-if anything, plcar def helps me lean out. If there is minimal suppression, I'm guessing action would return to normal after stoppping usage?

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

[Mr.50]

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

DSADE I wonder if there is any differences in this activity in different tissues (ie fat vs muscle vs organ) ?

Mr.50

[phantom]

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

yeah, with all the people who run this almost year round-never heard anyone really have problems associated with this

[dsade]

DSADE I wonder if there is any differences in this activity in different tissues (ie fat vs muscle vs organ) ?

Mr.50

This is the direction I am heading next as far as investigation. Hard to gauge just from the two studies.

[monstermash]

It doesn't appear to affect central thyroid action, so my initial thinking is that any suppression of effect will be minimal.

Is there anything you'd recommend for thyroid health while cycled of my carnitines?

[MAxximal]

Is there anything you'd recommend for thyroid health while cycled of my carnitines?

foods with sea salt, iodine or kelp