What about a product like Quadracarn?

[Mr.50]

DSADE,

Do you seen any usefulness to a multi carnitine product like Quadracarn but obviously at a higher dosage of each and possibly more economical? Rather then buying 3 or 4 different forms of carnitine.....

Propionyl, acetyl, L-Tartrate, etc....

Mr.50

[phantom]

I kow dsade mentioned a while ago he wanted to do a carnitine complex formula-not sure what the status is. On the bright side, he mentioned PLCAR will be back under Genomyx soon, and plcar is darn hard to find

[dsade]

I'm looking at doing a liquid carnitine complex.

[Mr.50]

I'm looking at doing a liquid carnitine complex.

Excellent......how about with Ubiquinol, pqp, and quercetin??? LOL

Mr.50

[dsade]

Excellent......how about with Ubiquinol, pqp, and quercetin??? LOL

Mr.50

Now you're trampling on the upcoming PreWorkout supp.

[Mr.50]

Now you're trampling on the upcoming PreWorkout supp.

oh oh........now im excited! The liquid carn and the pre workout are a combo ill be buying for sure!

Mr.50

[Mr.50]

DSADE,

Do you think there is any truth to Carnitine in any of its forms somehow blocking nuclear binding of Thyroid hormones.... etc? I know there is some implication from one or 2 research studies but has it born out and how much of a negative effect on metabolism might that actually casue in the real world?

Mr.50

[dsade]

DSADE,

Do you think there is any truth to Carnitine in any of its forms somehow blocking nuclear binding of Thyroid hormones.... etc? I know there is some implication from one or 2 research studies but has it born out and how much of a negative effect on metabolism might that actually casue in the real world?

Mr.50

I'm not finding anything with a quick search.

[Mr.50]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15591013


here is one..... I'll look for more when I can

[Mr.50]

one more.....same author.....

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11201848


Mr.50

[phantom]

bump for this- never heard this about carnitine b4

[Mr.50]

bump for your thoughts DSADE?

Mr.50

[dsade]

bump for your thoughts DSADE?



Mr.50

I'm seeing an effect noted in peripheral tissues only, which COULD prove to be significant, or not.

Going to take a lot more thinking on it, for sure.

[monstermash]

I'm seeing an effect noted in peripheral tissues only, which COULD prove to be significant, or not.

Going to take a lot more thinking on it, for sure.

Definitely need to know since I love cycling carnitines.

[dsade]

Definitely need to know since I love cycling carnitines.

It doesn't appear to affect central thyroid action, so my initial thinking is that any suppression of effect will be minimal.

[phantom]

been using carnitines on and off for 3 years now-never noticed any kinda weight gain/low thyroid symptoms on it-if anything, plcar def helps me lean out. If there is minimal suppression, I'm guessing action would return to normal after stoppping usage?

[dsade]

been using carnitines on and off for 3 years now-never noticed any kinda weight gain/low thyroid symptoms on it-if anything, plcar def helps me lean out. If there is minimal suppression, I'm guessing action would return to normal after stoppping usage?

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

[Mr.50]

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

DSADE I wonder if there is any differences in this activity in different tissues (ie fat vs muscle vs organ) ?

Mr.50

[phantom]

I would assume so...again, it does not appear to do anything centrally (suppression, etc).

yeah, with all the people who run this almost year round-never heard anyone really have problems associated with this

[dsade]

DSADE I wonder if there is any differences in this activity in different tissues (ie fat vs muscle vs organ) ?

Mr.50

This is the direction I am heading next as far as investigation. Hard to gauge just from the two studies.