I couldnt have said it better "wonderfully". Im about to go to 60mg a day, but I honestly almost feel like it may be a waste to even go that high, I ran havoc at 40 and it was great, I started Epithin-E at 40 and went to 50 and its great too, but Im starting to wonder if I should have just stayed at 40, I honestly dont think I could physically/physiologically make changes any faster, Im loosing fat, gaining muscle, getting stronger, and I dont think higher doses will make a difference at this point. Any thoughts on this?? Also, how long did you run it for??