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    Quote Originally Posted by smeton_yea View Post
    Generic Labz Im sorry, I should have done my research.

    Im just going to return the bottles back to you or your companies address.
    Or you could send it to me I'll pay shipping =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I know M-TRN was made by ALRI. They may have used alternative sources for their other products.
    ALR sold the extra powder he had to GL and KS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phrost View Post
    ALR sold the extra powder he had to GL and KS.
    That is not true, he never sold anything to KiloSports, he has mentioned this in the past.
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    oK this thread is funny.. If ALRI owns GL...ALR is in big trouble lol... Cuz he didnt tell me lol I think you should take those bottles of cissus drol and send them to me Ya I am getting a little tired of the consumer watch dog deal.. I mean yes you should be aware and take things exactly as the label directs, but wanting to know the manufacturer of an ingredient??? That is out there. I mean I just bought a bottle of alli which is the first FDA approved fatburner. a dollar a pill btw whew.. Its main ingredient is orlistat and believe me there is not a whole lot of info as to wtf that is.. Glaxosmith would tell me to kiss off if I called them wanting their exact forumulary ... Just a little side note..

    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    This sounds more like a conspiracy theory.

    GL was licensed by ALRI to sell several of these products, but the way you sounding is that they are a smaller company owned by ALRI.
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    you are correct we never sold anything to kilo sports

    Quote Originally Posted by bigblank69 View Post
    That is not true, he never sold anything to KiloSports, he has mentioned this in the past.
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    Hi Tiki
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiki le View Post
    Just to give some feedback of our own. We are a wholesale distributor for retailers nationwide and carry the GL line. About 4 weeks ago, we started six different trials of Cissus Drol with volunteers around the country. We have 2 doing the CD alone, 2 that took with another anabolic optimizer as a stack and 2 that took the other anabolic optimizer alone (as a baseline study) I can just give you feedback to what we have found. On it's own, the weight increase has been a little over 4 lbs with a 1.5% decrease in bf% in four weeks. The baseline product taken alone yielded 8 lbs increase in weight with a slight increase in bf%, Cissus Drol stacked with the baseline product yielded a 7 lbs increase in weight with a 2% decrease in bf%. Based on these studies I think it is pretty accurate to take away that Cissus Drol is performing outstanding as a repartitioning agent and lean mass builder.
    Just wanted to share our findings as well.
    As far as the ALRI connection, we distribute the ALRI line as well and work closely with them. Not sure if there was any connection in the past but both companies are totally separate
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    oK this thread is funny.. If ALRI owns GL...ALR is in big trouble lol... Cuz he didnt tell me lol I think you should take those bottles of cissus drol and send them to me Ya I am getting a little tired of the consumer watch dog deal.. I mean yes you should be aware and take things exactly as the label directs, but wanting to know the manufacturer of an ingredient??? That is out there. I mean I just bought a bottle of alli which is the first FDA approved fatburner. a dollar a pill btw whew.. Its main ingredient is orlistat and believe me there is not a whole lot of info as to wtf that is.. Glaxosmith would tell me to kiss off if I called them wanting their exact forumulary ... Just a little side note..
    Orlistats exact formula: (hope this uploads)

    1-(3-hexyl-4-oxo-oxetan-2-yl)tridecan-2-yl 2-formylamino-4-methyl-pentanoate
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    ok now explain it.
    Quote Originally Posted by rockhard_4eva View Post
    Orlistats exact formula: (hope this uploads)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    ok now explain it.
    QUOTE=rockhard_4eva;892824]Orlistats exact formula: (hope this uploads)
    As soon as you provide the formula for the isomer of bromo!

    Nah, Im a nice guy:

    Orlistat is the saturated derivative of lipstatin—a potent natural inhibitor of pancreatic lipases isolated from the bacterium Streptomyces toxytricini. However, due to simplicity and stability, orlistat rather than lipstatin was developed into an anti-obesity drug.

    Orlistat works by inhibiting pancreatic lipase, an enzyme that breaks down triglycerides in the intestine. Without this enzyme, triglycerides from the diet are prevented from being hydrolyzed into absorbable free fatty acids and are excreted undigested. Only trace amounts of orlistat are absorbed systemically; the primary effect is local lipase inhibition within the GI tract after an oral dose. The primary route of elimination is through the feces.

    ^ Barbier P, Schneider F (1987). "Syntheses of tetrahydrolipstatin and absolute configuration of tetrahydrolipstatin and lipstatin". Helvetica Chimica Acta 70 (1): 196–202. DOI:10.1002/hlca.19870700124.
    ^ Pommier A, Pons M, Kocienski P (1995). "The first total synthesis of (-)-lipstatin". Journal of Organic Chemistry 60 (22): 7334–7339. DOI:10.1021/jo00127a045.








    CAN I GET THE BOTTLES OF CISSUS DROL???????????????????
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    Man u gave a better description of their product than they do.. I bought the entire starter kit and believe me there is nothing of that nature in it.. Good for you my friend.. I cant give you cissus.. But for all that I kick ya some JW


    Quote Originally Posted by rockhard_4eva View Post

    As soon as you provide the formula for the isomer of bromo!

    Nah, Im a nice guy:

    Orlistat is the saturated derivative of lipstatin—a potent natural inhibitor of pancreatic lipases isolated from the bacterium Streptomyces toxytricini. However, due to simplicity and stability, orlistat rather than lipstatin was developed into an anti-obesity drug.

    Orlistat works by inhibiting pancreatic lipase, an enzyme that breaks down triglycerides in the intestine. Without this enzyme, triglycerides from the diet are prevented from being hydrolyzed into absorbable free fatty acids and are excreted undigested. Only trace amounts of orlistat are absorbed systemically; the primary effect is local lipase inhibition within the GI tract after an oral dose. The primary route of elimination is through the feces.

    ^ Barbier P, Schneider F (1987). "Syntheses of tetrahydrolipstatin and absolute configuration of tetrahydrolipstatin and lipstatin". Helvetica Chimica Acta 70 (1): 196–202. DOI:10.1002/hlca.19870700124.
    ^ Pommier A, Pons M, Kocienski P (1995). "The first total synthesis of (-)-lipstatin". Journal of Organic Chemistry 60 (22): 7334–7339. DOI:10.1021/jo00127a045.








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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    Man u gave a better description of their product than they do.. I bought the entire starter kit and believe me there is nothing of that nature in it.. Good for you my friend.. I cant give you cissus.. But for all that I kick ya some JW




    As soon as you provide the formula for the isomer of bromo!

    Nah, Im a nice guy:

    Orlistat is the saturated derivative of lipstatin—a potent natural inhibitor of pancreatic lipases isolated from the bacterium Streptomyces toxytricini. However, due to simplicity and stability, orlistat rather than lipstatin was developed into an anti-obesity drug.

    Orlistat works by inhibiting pancreatic lipase, an enzyme that breaks down triglycerides in the intestine. Without this enzyme, triglycerides from the diet are prevented from being hydrolyzed into absorbable free fatty acids and are excreted undigested. Only trace amounts of orlistat are absorbed systemically; the primary effect is local lipase inhibition within the GI tract after an oral dose. The primary route of elimination is through the feces.

    ^ Barbier P, Schneider F (1987). "Syntheses of tetrahydrolipstatin and absolute configuration of tetrahydrolipstatin and lipstatin". Helvetica Chimica Acta 70 (1): 196–202. DOI:10.1002/hlca.19870700124.
    ^ Pommier A, Pons M, Kocienski P (1995). "The first total synthesis of (-)-lipstatin". Journal of Organic Chemistry 60 (22): 7334–7339. DOI:10.1021/jo00127a045.








    CAN I GET THE BOTTLES OF CISSUS DROL???????????????????

    To be honest, I got better gains off JW than off Hyperdrol.

    And remeber, do not wear white pants while on Orlistat!
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    ahahahaha So I saw on the commercial.lol PM me :P)
    Quote Originally Posted by rockhard_4eva View Post


    To be honest, I got better gains off JW than off Hyperdrol.

    And remeber, do not wear white pants while on Orlistat!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAVEN View Post
    Hi Tiki
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    sorry been busy and hadn't logged on in a while. The kids just got back from a well deserved vacation - for us!! lol. So, needless to say we were catching up.
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    I was gonna buy Revolt, then saw X-mass and wuz like
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiki le View Post
    Just to give some feedback of our own. We are a wholesale distributor for retailers nationwide and carry the GL line. About 4 weeks ago, we started six different trials of Cissus Drol with volunteers around the country. We have 2 doing the CD alone, 2 that took with another anabolic optimizer as a stack and 2 that took the other anabolic optimizer alone (as a baseline study) I can just give you feedback to what we have found. On it's own, the weight increase has been a little over 4 lbs with a 1.5% decrease in bf% in four weeks. The baseline product taken alone yielded 8 lbs increase in weight with a slight increase in bf%, Cissus Drol stacked with the baseline product yielded a 7 lbs increase in weight with a 2% decrease in bf%. Based on these studies I think it is pretty accurate to take away that Cissus Drol is performing outstanding as a repartitioning agent and lean mass builder.
    Just wanted to share our findings as well.
    As far as the ALRI connection, we distribute the ALRI line as well and work closely with them. Not sure if there was any connection in the past but both companies are totally separate
    Nice
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigblank69 View Post
    That is not true, he never sold anything to KiloSports, he has mentioned this in the past.
    yup
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    I am shocked!


    Quote Originally Posted by Generic Labz View Post
    Since you are seeking proprietary information only of use to a knock off company or someone we compete with I have to assume you are after our formulary. The answer is no, and you would not be using our products anyway or you do and want to knock them off so you want the formulary.

    But, If you are not a rep of some sort, please give me your drivers license number, social security card number and post it so we can check the validity of any claims you have of not being a rep or competitor. If so I will have an NDA sent to you and you can have your lawyer go over it with you. After all you claim to be a reputable person so there should be no problem.

    As to consumer rights: You are correct and our label has all required information. Not happy with it? Use one that you are happy with, this is the best suggestion we have. No doubt this will piss you off and send you on a negative posting tangent that will have no affect on our sales. Reality: We are compliant, our products work, and we are very cost effective for the consumer.

    As to research on DVTHF. please type the whole name (divanillyltetrahydrofuran) into a search engine and get comfortable. There is a great deal of valid research available. This may seem smart ass to you no doubt, but we are simply applying the same logic to your request as you used in placing them.
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    There is nothing hidden bro, everything that is on the label is accurate and listed properly. I'm sorry you are having such a tough time with the whole "proprietary" thing.
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    i love these threads

    back to everyday life now i guess......


    As for anyone that has used Gl, we offer great products that ***** the other over priced ones. We are not new to the community at all. If you don't want to use our product, boo hoo.
    I don't care how old this thread is, I had to respond:

    I feel insulted and I wasn't even involved in this discussion. Generic Labz, how can you be so rude to your customer? I don't care how invasive a customer is! You do not mock, insult, or use sarcasm when dealing with a customer; even if that person hasn't purchased anything yet!

    And grexx, for you to say "boo hoo" to a customer, completely baffles me! I am just thrown aback by the level of customer disrespect that you have exuberated in this thread. You should be ashamed!

    Your job as a company is to serve your customer, not belittle him. Sheesh! This is really upsetting... I really hope the rest of your customer base doesn't receive such ill treatment when they question one of your products.

    Disgusting... What happened to professionalism?
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