Lengthening cycle, what do you think ?

Hardgain · 09-05-2006, 12:09 AM

Ok, I am starting week four of Halodrol-50. Getting nice strength gains but weight hovering right at 200-201 at 6' tall. Guessing about 13% BF.

I'm thinking that I will add the following for weeks 4,5 & 6.
Mega Vol
X-Mass
Phera-max

I am interested in your dosing recomendations for these for the next three weeks. I have one bottle of each, and am looking to maximize results, because I won't cycle again until winter (Febuaryish).

Help me to get over my 210 blockade. I have hit 207, but it was breif and fairly wet............Oh BTW, that was during a Mega TRN/TST/SD cycle..........I'm saying wet because I dumped 5 pounds fairly quick once off.....

Help a brotha out

3clipseGT · 09-05-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hardgain

Ok, I am starting week four of Halodrol-50. Getting nice strength gains but weight hovering right at 200-201 at 6' tall. Guessing about 13% BF.

I'm thinking that I will add the following for weeks 4,5 & 6.
Mega Vol
X-Mass
Phera-max

I am interested in your dosing recomendations for these for the next three weeks. I have one bottle of each, and am looking to maximize results, because I won't cycle again until winter (Febuaryish).

Help me to get over my 210 blockade. I have hit 207, but it was breif and fairly wet............Oh BTW, that was during a Mega TRN/TST/superdrol cycle..........I'm saying wet because I dumped 5 pounds fairly quick once off.....

Help a brotha out

Is mega vol supposed to be mega zol? If so then id go with it at atleast 150mgs, use xmas at 80 or 120, and use phera max at 30 or 45mgs and you should be good to go. The 5lbs you lost on ur previous cycle was probly all the glycogen storing properties superdrol has.

grexx · 09-05-2006, 06:17 PM

That's pretty much overkill... I would just use the mega-h for another 2 weeks and beginning this week, add the mega-trn at 4-6 mgs day with the mega-zol at 200 mgs/day. Run all 3 together for 3-4 weeks. Take some time off, and then hit the x-mass at 120 mgs/day and the phera max at 30 mgs/day for 4-6 weeks.

**b unit** · 09-05-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by grexx

That's pretty much overkill... I would just use the mega-h for another 2 weeks and beginning this week, add the mega-trn at 4-6 mgs day with the mega-zol at 200 mgs/day. Run all 3 together for 3-4 weeks. Take some time off, and then hit the x-mass at 120 mgs/day and the phera max at 30 mgs/day for 4-6 weeks.

hi grexx, how much time off you think and what about pct?

grexx · 09-06-2006, 11:13 AM

Time off is usually the equivalent to time on... pct is usually some kind of anti-e, maca, avena sativa, tribulus, fenugreek etc...

**pistonpump** · 09-06-2006, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by grexx

Time off is usually the equivalent to time on... post cycle therapy is usually some kind of anti-e, maca, avena sativa, tribulus, fenugreek etc...

Im sorry are you saying that cycling with Generic Labz products like Phera, H, m-trn, and zol dont need nolva? I dont agree and would like to hear backings to that statement...

Hardgain · 09-06-2006, 03:45 PM

Piston, I think that Grexx covered that , or intended to when he says "some kind of anti-e". Since my thread was regarding the break up and dosage of these four compounds the PCT discussion can be found elsewhere.

Thanks Grexx for the feedback, and 3clipse.........

I will adjust by putting in the Mega Zol at 200 mgs. ED for the next three weeks with the H at 50 mgs ed during that time, for a total time of 6 weeks H at 50 mgs ed and 3 weeks overlapped of 200 mgs ed Mega Zol. Then, six weeks after that ends I will go with the X Mass/ Phera Max stack you talked about.

**pistonpump** · 09-06-2006, 05:25 PM

it doesnt sound too good for your HPTA, bouncing back and forth. I know alot of people do it but if you really care you would take more time off. by the time you have balanced your HPTA to normal levels(hopefully) you will be on your way again to shutting it down. Its kind of like why even PCT? lol

Hardgain · 09-06-2006, 10:52 PM

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Today 02:25 PM
pistonpump it doesnt sound too good for your HPTA, bouncing back and forth. I know alot of people do it but if you really care you would take more time off. by the time you have balanced your HPTA to normal levels(hopefully) you will be on your way again to shutting it down. Its kind of like why even post cycle therapy? lol

Yes, I understand you are correct. And, I agree...........
I just don't want to waste my time typing out a PCT that we all already get and will do. And, if others, who don't get it, need, they can search around and find out all about PCT in the various threads that address that thouroughly.

Thanks for contributing, yuor comments are appreciated.

**pistonpump** · 09-07-2006, 03:24 AM

I dont think you got my point lol. It doesnt have to do with your pct, i was refering to your time off between cycles. It is so short why even do pct?(not that you shouldnt). you are going to cycle again right when you are back to normal or not even. I guess everyone has preference, i prefer to have my HPTA functioning at normal levels long enough for it to "understand" how its supposed to work again. If you keep teasing your HPTA back and forth its gonna have a better chance of leaving you, but this is coming from a 22 year old........different strokes for different folks.

grexx · 09-07-2006, 04:17 PM

hardgain caught what I was saying

Hardgain · 09-07-2006, 09:02 PM

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pistonpump I dont think you got my point lol. It doesnt have to do with your post cycle therapy, i was refering to your time off between cycles. It is so short why even do post cycle therapy?(not that you shouldnt). you are going to cycle again right when you are back to normal or not even. I guess everyone has preference, i prefer to have my HPTA functioning at normal levels long enough for it to "understand" how its supposed to work again. If you keep teasing your HPTA back and forth its gonna have a better chance of leaving you, but this is coming from a 22 year old........different strokes for different folks.

I got it, just didn't want to waste space on it cuz it was not where I was going. lol

Thanks

mixedup · 09-07-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pistonpump

Im sorry are you saying that cycling with Generic Labz products like Phera, H, m-trn, and zol dont need nolva? I dont agree and would like to hear backings to that statement...

Piston are you questionging not needing an anti e or not needing nolva specifcially. If your referring ot not needing nolva specifically than I have to disagree with you. while nolva is the in thing to use for PCT there are other alternatives and actually in the older days nolv was hardly ever used as PCT and only kept on hand for gyno.

**pistonpump** · 09-08-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedup

Piston are you questionging not needing an anti e or not needing nolva specifcially. If your referring ot not needing nolva specifically than I have to disagree with you. while nolva is the in thing to use for post cycle therapy there are other alternatives and actually in the older days nolv was hardly ever used as PCT and only kept on hand for gyno.

No, I meant that Ai or Serm is needed. I misinterpreted grexxx's post i guess.

**pistonpump** · 09-08-2006, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mixedup

Piston are you questionging not needing an anti e or not needing nolva specifcially. If your referring ot not needing nolva specifically than I have to disagree with you. while nolva is the in thing to use for post cycle therapy there are other alternatives and actually in the older days nolv was hardly ever used as PCT and only kept on hand for gyno.

No, I meant that Ai or Serm is needed. I misinterpreted grexxx's post i guess.