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Cycle Suggestions

touchdownthirty

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I recently bought Phera Max and Mega-TRN,however, I have leftover 1-Test, Paradeca (VPX), M1T, and 1AD. I am a relatively hard gainer and would like to weigh in around 180. Currently I'm at 160. I've gone through many pro-hormone cycles before but they've never yielded the gains I want. At this point I am very open to suggestions for my next cycle.I was thinking about opening it up with M1T to get off to a good start and from there on I'm all ears!
 
Unless you are very short you have lots of room to grow and should be able to put on some weight with a solid diet plan. I recommend, if you have not already done so, looking into improving on diet.
 
I'm 5'7" :(

I've stuck to a good diet the past 8 or 9yrs that I've been lifting. Without it I'd be even smaller. Any suggestions on the cycle?
 
Bro, I feel your pain. Reading what little you have posted leads me to believe that we are/were both in the same boat. Read Invalid Link Removed and you will see what I mean.

Try checking out the Nutrition forum and maybe the Exercise Science (find some new methods). I always thought I had a good clean diet too...which I did, but I wasn't eating nearly as much as I thought. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm just elaborating on what everybody else is going to tell you. EAT (and use fitday.com), CEE, and Whey are some solid basics to start with. Look up macro nutrients and find out what it means to use a 40/40/20 macro ratio.

Good luck and I hope I didn't insult your intelligence any way.

Oh, and I have put on about six or seven pounds since march and my BF is slightly lower...all I did was eat more of the right stuff.

(edit: another great sticky - Invalid Link Removed)
 
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stxnas said:
Bro, I feel your pain. Reading what little you have posted leads me to believe that we are/were both in the same boat. Read Invalid Link Removed and you will see what I mean.

Try checking out the Nutrition forum and maybe the Exercise Science (find some new methods). I always thought I had a good clean diet too...which I did, but I wasn't eating nearly as much as I thought. I'm not trying to tell you what to do. I'm just elaborating on what everybody else is going to tell you. EAT (and use fitday.com), CEE, and Whey are some solid basics to start with. Look up macro nutrients and find out what it means to use a 40/40/20 macro ratio.

Good luck and I hope I didn't insult your intelligence any way.

Oh, and I have put on about six or seven pounds since march and my BF is slightly lower...all I did was eat more of the right stuff.


I appreciate the response. I used to be in the 140's before I really changed my diet. I feel my diet is where it should be since I've seen results after changing it. I'm not denying altering it some more can give a few more pounds but I'm not new to this (I minored in nutrition). I simply am looking for some advice on my cycle. Previous cycles have been very basic sticking only to 1 or 2 compounds. Over the years I've managed to put on that extra 20 so-odd pounds. Now I would like to try a stack. Once again, all responses are appreciated
 
It is what it is then. I can't really help then as I am not real familiar with older PHs/PSs.

Try reposting with your stats and goals (ie don't mind water retention, only looking to lean bulk, looking for vascularity, I just want to get hyooge! etc etc). Good luck.
 
I have to agree with the rest of them. eat. with the cycle I would let you know I'm planning my next cycle with 1t, trn and another trans thats getting old. have not decided yet. the 1ad, 1t and m1t are so similar I would not run them at the same time maybe stop one then start the next.
 
wastedwhiteboy2 said:
I have to agree with the rest of them. eat. with the cycle I would let you know I'm planning my next cycle with 1t, trn and another trans thats getting old. have not decided yet. the 1ad, 1t and m1t are so similar I would not run them at the same time maybe stop one then start the next.

Might it be smart to start off with M1T to jumpstart the cycle and then move over to 1-Test? As far as goals go I'm looking for lean mass
 
touchdownthirty said:
Currently I'm at 160. I've gone through many pro-hormone cycles before but they've never yielded the gains I want...I'm all ears!
OK...then please listen. It is not about the PH/PS that you use. Diet and training are a major part of the equation. You use the term hardgainer. It may be hard because you are doing it incorrectly.

If you would like to get some more helpful input then provide information such as age, training routine and diet. You will not be receiving any suggestions on steroid use.
 
I think everyone has very good points. Not trying to be a jerk or anything but seriously if you are only 160 at 5'7" you are not trying hard enough and I will bet you my next pay check your diet isn't right for growing.
We need a lot more personal data to really provide you any worth while feedback.
 
Of the compounds you listed, it seems only the Phera-plex clone would have any libido increasing properties (I've forgotten 1AD...).

So, combining many of them would leave you d*ckless essentially.
 
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