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TRN/Zol - 8 week cycle coming to an end

BigMattTx

BigMattTx

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Alright heres the deal. I started a cycle of Zol alone, 7 weeks ago and ended up adding in TRN later on. Heres what its looked like so far.

Week 1 - 100mg Zol
Week 2,3 - 150mg Zol
Week 4,5 - 150mg Zol/2mg TRN
Week 6 - 150mg Zol/4mg TRN
Week 7 - 4mg TRN
Week 8 - 6mg TRN

I am one the 2nd day of week 8 in this cycle. I am right around the same weight I was when I started (185) but the difference in bodyfat is night and day. I went from being at a real high bodyfat with no ab definition to where I have an easily visible 6-pack when flexing. Strength has gone up and sides have been minimal. My libido is about the same, I only got acne/oily skin when changing the dosages but once my body adapts, its fine. The joint pains werent too bad with Zol but I kind of felt like it wasn't contributing much towards the end so I dropped it to see how TRN is on its own. Now, I have heard that people really start to see sides at 6mg and I was planning to stop after this week but I dont know if I should. I kind of want to push it another week so I can reach my goal and then do a thorough PCT with Nolva, Fenugreek, Liver Support. I was also considering starting clenbuterol at low dose 1 week into PCT. Anyhow, Im wondering if you guys think I could stretch this cycle out another week or 2 and make it a 9 or 10-week cycle. I normally would be totally against this but TRN and ZOL are really mild compared to the methylated compounds.
 
I feel like I can get to the point I want to be at after an additional 2 weeks though..thats my dilemma. I will probably play it by how I feel after a week at 6mg.
 
What exactly is it your looking to accomplish in the last two weeks. Even though the products might not be as harsh as a methyl you do have to remember that they are orals so they do go through liver bypass so 10 weeks is probally a little long. Also remember you WILL lose some of the gains you never keep 100% you can keep a great deal but if the two extra weeks just gets you to exactly where you want to be to be I'd say save it for the next cycle. Also i wouldn't add the clen in i've been told by alot of knowledgable people on the board that if you try to cut during post cycle therapy you'll end up losing lbm rather easily.

Not trying to lecture you or anything but imo what you can get out of 2extra weeks after already being on it for 8 wouldn't be worth it.
 
my goal is just to cut without losing mass. I have read about cutting too and I plan on upping calories during PCT and reducing workload a bit. I just figured the clen would take care of a little fat and it is supposively mildly anti-catabolic. anyways, most people that recommend clen say that 1 week into PCT is the best time. Anyhow, I might not run clen but I just ordered some retain to keep cotrisol low. I'll be taking that as well for PCT.
 
Clen being anti-catabolic is brotelligence. Only proved in Rats.

Now Albuterol would be a better alternative. And I believe it WAS found to be anti-catabolic. Do the research on that to be sure.

Don't worry about dropping weight in PCT. It's a time to retain your gains and eat clean to keep the muscle on.
 
I can tell you I am cutting right now. During PCT and it's not something I would not recommend I'm feeling weaker and skinnier I definetly wouldn't be doing it if I had a choice but I dont'.
 
mixedup said:
I can tell you I am cutting right now. During post cycle therapy and it's not something I would not recommend I'm feeling weaker and skinnier I definetly wouldn't be doing it if I had a choice but I dont'.
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Exactly what I am saying... your hormones are already in a whack state.

What happens when you drop calories... you go catabolic and test output is reduced. This will lead to a loss of gains and increased fat storage.

But I have never done a PCT.. so my advise is annecdotal at best. But.. food for thought.
 
JonesersRX7 said:
Exactly what I am saying... your hormones are already in a whack state.

What happens when you drop calories... you go catabolic and test output is reduced. This will lead to a loss of gains and increased fat storage.

But I have never done a post cycle therapy.. so my advise is annecdotal at best. But.. food for thought.
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No...you are definitely right. Any exeperienced user knows to never cut during PCT. The best time is actually on cycle which is why I wanted to extend this cycle until Im at a bodyfat that I am happy at. Then I dont have to worry about cutting because once I get to that BF, I just want to maintain the low BF and slowly add lean mass. I will probably just PCT with Nolva/Fenugreek/Retain/Sesamin and possibly ZMA/Maca. I am also going to start CEE and I will be taking taurine and AAKG with my workout shakes so I shouldnt have to worry about losing gains, especially with increased cals.
 
MattHines said:
I am right around the same weight I was when I started (185) but the difference in bodyfat is night and day. I went from being at a real high bodyfat with no ab definition to where I have an easily visible 6-pack when flexing.
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I'm assuming you didn't do a bf%.. how much has your waist size changed?
Did the ZOL work out for you? or do you feel the TRN has been responsible for the recomp?
 
get some oratropin and maybe that cissis/powerfull combo that is on sale that would be a good way to help keep your gains and still achieve your goals thru pct. just my two cents.
 
Isnt oratropin some type of HGH???

What would a dosing scheme look like and where can I find more info?


For everyone info, I am on day 3 of PCT as I ended by cycle after the 8th week.
 
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