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non-methyl?

fedaykin

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I am wondering which of your products were not methylated?

Are any of those products similar to the old ALRI max lmg?

What are the others comparable to?

Thank you.
 
Mega-ZOL and X-MASS are non-methylated.
The X-MASS is the one that is comparable to the product you are asking about.
 
what about mega-zol? Are there any other products similar?

BTW: I really liked max lmg before it was discontinued. I will definately be making an x-mass purchase soon.
 
I agree, X-MASS is a great compound. Mild on sides, but moderate on gains. Very clean feeling.

Mega-ZOL... think about hit bro. It's not a mystery. What other one of the products from that line had "zol" in it? Prostano...
 
oh, ok. Duh. I feel kinda stupid now... lol.

I really like the x-mass for stacking though. I am currently using the last of my lmg in a phera plex/methoxy-trn stack.(3 weeks of each). I'm loving it.
 
fedaykin said:
what about mega-zol? Are there any other products similar?

BTW: I really liked max lmg before it was discontinued. I will definately be making an x-mass purchase soon.
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X-Mass = MAX LMG
Mega Zol = Prostanozol
 
mega-trn isnt methylated either correct? hence the methoxy ether group intsead of the alkyl group... I was on the got tst thread and was corrected. correct me if I am still wrong .. I would like to look at an the actual molecular structure and learn where these groups go. I wasnt that bad in org. chem! :blink:
 
No, the trn isn't but I feel that it is the strongest supp out there bar none. Try it with either the mega-zol or pheramone-x or all three and see what happens.
 
Let's think about this for a second.

I mean, why do people stack tren and EQ? Or any 2 compounds? If you believe it to be due to one not being strong, you should probably research more.

Each compound has its own properties and exhibits those in effects that differ from other compounds. If you are using something that is good with lean, dry gains, but want to all-out gain mass, you would stack it with something that is a better mass gainer.
 
Sorry, I guess I didnt mean I needed an explination of stacking,.. I misspoke. I guess for some reason I was a little dissapointed in:
"No, the trn isn't but I feel that it is the strongest supp out there bar none. Try it with either the mega-zol or pheramone-x or all three and see what happens."

Ive just seen that a few times too many; was looking for a little more and something a little less "obvious".

It also sways me to beleive that TRN alone wouldnt be "enough". I was under the impression TRN wass a mass+cuts chemical.
 
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It is. I guess the point is that dry gainers can only bring so much. The mass comes on much easier when stacked with a "wetter" compound, if that is a sufficient explanation. It's that way for any of these compounds. Of course it can be used alone just fine for lean mass or cutting. I've heard nothing but good. Basically it's a case of the bb'er mentality that if 1 is good, 2 are better.
 
Generic Labz said:
Basically it's a case of the bb'er mentality that if 1 is good, 2 are better.
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Id like to think that the bb mentality is geared towards less is more. I seriously doubt that anymore than 15 percent of your customers have the actual skills set to utilize these compounds to their fullest. I have also seen a lot of advice being thrown out there to run heavy dosing of multiple compounds, perhaps a bit of caution should be used when setting recomendations for such new and untested compounds.
 
GoFast, I agree 100% that IDEALLY, the bb'er mentality WOULD be one of less is more. But in REALITY, it just isn't so. That's why my post was simply an explanation that stacking can result in different gains, and is commonly done when not needed due to the FACTUAL attitude that a vast majority of customers have.

Also, let's understand that stacking them together doesn't necessarily mean that you'd stack both at their full strength.

Honestly, I like the way you think, and I wish more thought along those lines, man. It would be a much less regulated industry if that were the case. You have earned my respect.
 
The only reason why I say to try 2 or 3 at the same time is to use the synergy that exists between the different compounds. Also, when using more than one, you can cut the dosage of each down further than if you only used one. Sometimes, I think guys overthink these things and make themselves believe that we are using life threatening compounds. Don't belive me? Try this. Instead of running the pheramone-x at 30 mgs/day for 4 weeks, try running the phera-x at 15 mgs/day with 4 mgs/day of the mega-trn for 4 weeks and at the 3 week add mega-zol at 150-200 mgs/day, stop the phera-x at week 4 and run the remaining 2 up to week 6. Tell me which gives better gains but it won't be news to my ears. Just trying to be helpful.
 
GoFast said:
Id like to think that the bb mentality is geared towards less is more. I seriously doubt that anymore than 15 percent of your customers have the actual skills set to utilize these compounds to their fullest. I have also seen a lot of advice being thrown out there to run heavy dosing of multiple compounds, perhaps a bit of caution should be used when setting recomendations for such new and untested compounds.
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Heh, After like 15 edits, and deciding to totally change my post, You come out and essentially say what I was tring to say,.. your was much more gracefull!!

Just wanted to make sure I would be happy with the results from my TRN only cycle, and wouldnt regreat running it solo.

"Try this. Instead of running the pheramone-x at 30 mgs/day for 4 weeks, try running the phera-x at 15 mgs/day with 4 mgs/day of the mega-trn for 4 weeks and at the 3 week add mega-zol at 150-200 mgs/day, stop the phera-x at week 4 and run the remaining 2 up to week 6. Tell me which gives better gains but it won't be news to my ears. Just trying to be helpful."

I understand the reasoning there.. Phera never really seemed to work with me,.. I must be a 3-ene type of guy,.. cause I love that stuff!! I know phera takes about 2 weeks to really kick in,.. would the implication be that TRN begins to work sooner?
 
well ihave accumulated as many of these compounds as i could so as to have the option of makeing different stacks to take advantage of the affects of each individual compound.
 
GoFast said:
Id like to think that the bb mentality is geared towards less is more. I seriously doubt that anymore than 15 percent of your customers have the actual skills set to utilize these compounds to their fullest. I have also seen a lot of advice being thrown out there to run heavy dosing of multiple compounds, perhaps a bit of caution should be used when setting recomendations for such new and untested compounds.
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Absolutely agree. I believe these compounds should only be used by those who would follow all the peripheral activites to best utilize them, ie; excellent diet, consistent training, FULL PCT!, and immune system support which is something many overlook. I myself have been guilty of screwing up the aforementioned and paid for it. These products actually look very tempting, but I would make sure I was fully commited to the above before doing any cycle. Common sense? Just how common is common sense ?:run:
 
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