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  1. Obama won...


    and I bet he'll wipe the floor with McCain


  2. The greatest danger this county has faced in it entire history is now a reality.

    "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, ithout
    knowing how it happened."

    Norman Thomas, 1948
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  3. I have to say from my vantage point (Indy) I love the idea of watching repubs screaming about socialism and dems screaming about a bush 3rd term. It is too funny.

    At the end of the day, the Obama/Clinton ticket will win, and most likely win handily. To discuss how they will do as a ticket will be premature at this point, as it will be with McCain, but it will be a stark change from where we are now, which could very well be a positive considering how terrible the Bush administration has been on so many levels

  4. Wasn't really a suprise he won though was it. Well originaly Clinton was hot favourite but that didn't last long. I got a fair bit of cash riding on Obama becomming president..........thats right i gambled on this sh1t.

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    The greatest danger this county has faced in it entire history is now a reality.

    "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, ithout
    knowing how it happened."

    Norman Thomas, 1948
    +1 !
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  6. Obama is telling us what we want to hear ... and he's damn good at it too.

    McCain - old and boring
    Obama - fresh and young.

    Do you really think the public cares about policy? LOL. We want a good show!

  7. Indy ? You live in Indianapolis Reaper ?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    I have to say from my vantage point (Indy) I love the idea of watching repubs screaming about socialism and dems screaming about a bush 3rd term. It is too funny.

    At the end of the day, the Obama/Clinton ticket will win, and most likely win handily. To discuss how they will do as a ticket will be premature at this point, as it will be with McCain, but it will be a stark change from where we are now, which could very well be a positive considering how terrible the Bush administration has been on so many levels
    1. I'm not a republican - don't make assumptions.
    2. That quote is from 1948 and still rings true, doesnt it now..? Both Clinton and Obama are both socialists. I might add some of Hillary's politics mimic the communist manifesto.
    3. McCain is not a whole like like Bush. He is about as liberal as a republican as you can get. Unless he picks a strong VP he's got no chance as the core republicans despise him.
    4. Any change is good right?
    5. I want them to win, it might force the republicans to put their party back together.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by RenegadeRows View Post
    Obama is telling us what we want to hear ... and he's damn good at it too.

    McCain - old and boring
    Obama - fresh and young.

    Do you really think the public cares about policy? LOL. We want a good show!
    No, they don't care about policy. But when their guy wins its all gravy. Until.... their personal taxes jump 20%, corporate taxes are increased (sending more jobs overseas), they lose a job to a lesser qualified black person simply because of race, abortions are available at walmart, then maybe they will realize what was important.

    8/10 social issues on Obama's website are race issues. How bout that... Affirmative action by definition puts the black man in a higher class than the white man. Arent we ALL supposed to be EQUAL? lol..

  10. Obama is not "black".

  11. Quote Originally Posted by Australian made View Post
    Obama is not "black".
    I guess I need to adjust my set

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    1. I'm not a republican - don't make assumptions.
    2. That quote is from 1948 and still rings true, doesnt it now..? Both Clinton and Obama are both socialists. I might add some of Hillary's politics mimic the communist manifesto.
    3. McCain is not a whole like like Bush. He is about as liberal as a republican as you can get. Unless he picks a strong VP he's got no chance as the core republicans despise him.
    4. Any change is good right?
    5. I want them to win, it might force the republicans to put their party back together.
    1. not making assumptions about you personally, your political persuasion is meaningless for the sake of this discussion
    2. calling them socialists is kinda like calling bush a fascist, not entirely true
    3. If you look at McCain's policies, specifically on the war and on nwealthy tax cuts (as well as education) he sounds a lot like ihm, and many people are going to see a republican and think of him. McCain has the misfortune of following a horrible president
    4. No, not any change is good, but people do want change and they see the POSSIBILITY of that in Obama
    5. Wow, and you say you are not a republican, interesting last statement then

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    The greatest danger this county has faced in it entire history is now a reality.
    Not letting inbred morons succeed their fathers in public office?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    At the end of the day, the Obama/Clinton ticket will win, and most likely win handily.
    I profoundly disagree - the surest way for the DP to lose is to have HRC on the ticket - in *either* role. What the frack do you think Operation Chaos was all about?

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Reaper329 View Post
    1. not making assumptions about you personally, your political persuasion is meaningless for the sake of this discussion
    2. calling them socialists is kinda like calling bush a fascist, not entirely true
    3. If you look at McCain's policies, specifically on the war and on nwealthy tax cuts (as well as education) he sounds a lot like ihm, and many people are going to see a republican and think of him. McCain has the misfortune of following a horrible president
    4. No, not any change is good, but people do want change and they see the POSSIBILITY of that in Obama
    5. Wow, and you say you are not a republican, interesting last statement then
    I am a strong libertarian and also a catholic, for this reason in general elections I typically have to side with the republican party at least for social issues. But FWIW I disagree with them on numerous issues.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    I profoundly disagree - the surest way for the DP to lose is to have HRC on the ticket - in *either* role. What the frack do you think Operation Chaos was all about?
    I agree completely. I actually think Obama is going to hand her the "F you" and pick someone lese.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    Not letting inbred morons succeed their fathers in public office?
    I agree here, he is a moron. But, he did 2 things during his tenure that actually made me glad I voted for him over the other putz.

    1 Roberts
    2 Alito

    If we need conservatives anywhere its our court system.

  18. wow..think of all that wasted money spent on Clinton's behalf....

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    No, they don't care about policy. But when their guy wins its all gravy. Until.... their personal taxes jump 20%, corporate taxes are increased (sending more jobs overseas), they lose a job to a lesser qualified black person simply because of race, abortions are available at walmart, then maybe they will realize what was important.
    so, *you* are better off now than you were under dem dam' Dems? I'd like to know how you managed it: heavily invested in defense industries?

    Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    8/10 social issues on Obama's website are race issues. How bout that... Affirmative action by definition puts the black man in a higher class than the white man. Arent we ALL supposed to be EQUAL? lol..
    Hyperbole is typically used to make a point but the only point you seem to be making is that you have no point - only hyperbole.

    If you think (for example) that corporate taxation is "sending more jobs overseas", you don't know as much about business (or taxation, or corporate capitalism) as might profit you.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Usf97j4x4 View Post
    If we need conservatives anywhere its our court system.
    I'd say that's a big "if", personally - heil, most of what gets described these days as "conservative" is nothing of the sort: much more a form of radical revisionism. Barry Goldwater would b!tch-slap the lot of 'em, and Bill Buckley would block the exits....

  21. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    so, *you* are better off now than you were under dem dam' Dems? I'd like to know how you managed it: heavily invested in defense industries?


    Hyperbole is typically used to make a point but the only point you seem to be making is that you have no point - only hyperbole.

    If you think (for example) that corporate taxation is "sending more jobs overseas", you don't know as much about business (or taxation, or corporate capitalism) as might profit you.
    LOL, funny you mention that I actually am invested in some defense industries. Guilty as charged as I am not helping our economy, I am invested over 60% in foreign markets. Our corporate taxes are already very high compared to other markets, increasing them is going to make more fluid companies look elsewhere. How can you say it wouldn't?

    And btw, I strongly, strongly disagree with any legislation put out to "help" an "oppressed" class/race. Laws like this create a vicious cycle and actually keep the "oppressed".. well "oppressed." I live in the ghetto, I see it daily.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    Barry Goldwater would b!tch-slap the lot of 'em, and Bill Buckley would block the exits....
    lmfao..

  23. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    If you think (for example) that corporate taxation is "sending more jobs overseas", you don't know as much about business (or taxation, or corporate capitalism) as might profit you.

    Are you joking?
    For answers to board issues, read the Suggestion and News forum at the bottom of the main page.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    I'd say that's a big "if", personally - heil, most of what gets described these days as "conservative" is nothing of the sort: much more a form of radical revisionism. Barry Goldwater would b!tch-slap the lot of 'em, and Bill Buckley would block the exits....
    LOL, nice I agree here. I guess conservative was a poor choice of words.

    A lot of my feelings there come from some of the more liberal judges throwing repeat child predators 6 months of probation instead of jail time. I do not think it is possible to correct these people.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by BodyWizard View Post
    I profoundly disagree - the surest way for the DP to lose is to have HRC on the ticket - in *either* role. What the frack do you think Operation Chaos was all about?
    I disagree, I think she will be on it to attract based on name recognition. WIll she isolate some, of course, but I will say that she will bring in a working class vote that already voted for her before. It is his best option
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