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Old 04-21-2008, 07:57 AM   #1
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Is there some way to end journalism as we know it?

So i'm checking the newstertainment this morning and read this Carter: Hamas is willing to accept Israel as its neighbor

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JERUSALEM - Hamas is prepared to accept the right of Israel to "live as a neighbor next door in peace," former President Jimmy Carter said Monday.

Carter said the group promised it wouldn't undermine Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas' efforts to reach a peace deal with Israel, as long as the Palestinian people approved it in a referendum. In such a scenario, he said Hamas would not oppose a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza.

Hamas, a militant Islamic group that both the U.S. and Israel consider a terrorist organization, calls in its charter for Israel's destruction. It has also traditionally opposed peace negotiations with the Jewish state.

Sami Abu Zuhri, a Hamas spokesman, later said Carter's comments "do not mean that Hamas is going to accept the result of the referendum."

Carter's comments came after his much criticized meetings with the top Hamas leaders in Syria in last week.

The Nobel laureate also urged Israel to engage in direct negotiations with the Islamic militant group, saying it was a "problem" that Israel and the U.S. refuse to meet with Hamas. Both governments consider it a terrorist organization.

"The problem is not that I met with Hamas in Syria," he said. "The problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to meet with someone who must be involved."

"There's no doubt that both the Arab world and Hamas will accept Israel's right to exist in peace within 1967 borders," he said, referring to Israel's frontiers before it captured large swaths of Arab lands in the 1967 Mideast war.

Over the weekend, Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said he decided not to meet with Carter in Israel because he does not wish to be seen as participating in any negotiations with Hamas.

In his comments Monday, Carter said Israeli-Palestinian peacemaking has "regressed" since a U.S.-hosted Mideast conference in Annapolis, Md., in November.

Israel has been negotiating directly with Abbas, who heads a moderate government based in the West Bank. Abbas lost control of the Gaza Strip last June, when Hamas violently seized control of that territory.

Carter said Hamas has promised to let a captured Israeli soldier send a letter to his parents, and said the militants "made clear to us that they would accept an interim cease-fire in the Gaza Strip."

However, Carter said Hamas rejected his specific proposal for a monthlong unilateral cease-fire.
I bolded the most relevant pieces. So basically Carter says "gee hamas is all set to hold hands with israel and invite them over to their bbqs" where apparently all hamas actually said was that they wouldn't oppose the palestinians getting more control of gaza + west bank. amazing really how that could be interpreted as Hamas extending the possibility of peace with Israel. So looks like Jimmy accomplished feeding the Hamas guys a free lunch, and they accomplished making an old man feel like he accomplished something.
 



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Old 04-21-2008, 08:01 AM   #2
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First in lol this is the usual bs reporters talk about.....
 
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If that was the title of the article on top, than the editor for that publication just turned one one of the top world issues into a Entertainment Weekly joke. Or they just want to embarrass Jimmy Carter.

"they will let a pow send a letter home and a interim cease fire" so what like a week? Month max? In fact how did Jimmy Carter's people let him announce that kind of bold utterly impossible at this time statement?
 



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Old 04-21-2008, 08:55 AM   #4
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I guess like most political lies, the hope is that if enough people see it, people will believe it.

To me it just goes to show how democrat positive so much of the media is, and republican negative.

Maybe Carter is starting to get alzheimers too
 



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funny, i read the same article this morning and thought the exact same thing.

the headline gets you excited that something great his happening here but then you read it and realize it's nothing.

i should have guessed when carters name was mentioned.
 



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I guess like most political lies, the hope is that if enough people see it, people will believe it.

To me it just goes to show how democrat positive so much of the media is, and republican negative.

Maybe Carter is starting to get alzheimers too
Karl Rove is a political news analyst for Fox News, one of the United States' largest, and mostly overtly bias news sources. How much more 'Republican Friendly' can you get?
 



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Karl Rove is a political news analyst for Fox News, one of the United States' largest, and mostly overtly bias news sources. How much more 'Republican Friendly' can you get?
Yes, thats 1. outside of that tho its only psychos on talk radio who are republican supportive, and I think a lot of them do more harm than good. The Associated Press and print media ala newspapers has a strong democrat slant. Newstertainment, cause it sure isn't journalism anymore
 



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Yes, thats 1. outside of that tho its only psychos on talk radio who are republican supportive, and I think a lot of them do more harm than good. The Associated Press and print media ala newspapers has a strong democrat slant. Newstertainment, cause it sure isn't journalism anymore
I agree that viral media is a plague. However, the Rep-Demo., media bias is overblown, and balances out in the grand spectra of News Media.

Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, these polarizing figures misrepresent, for the most part, conservative NeoLiberal policy; just as Jon Stewart, or some hippy University student misrepresent Liberal-Democrats.
 



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Old 04-21-2008, 10:59 AM   #9
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The only thing that to me would be positive about a democrat winning the presidential election this year is that at least i'll be able to enjoy the daily show again.
 



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I've seen him rip the follies of Democrats and Republicans alike. The current administration just happens to provide an abundance of material. It's safe to say he'll rip on the next equally, that's the show's purpose.

 



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Yes, and i'll enjoy that a lot more. Hillary would be far funnier for that, she'd provide even more material than obama
 



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Haha, at least we can agree on that.
 



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