[slanginweight]

Just read new article on yahoo, and they're expecting gas prices to rise to average around 3.75gal. that means that some of us will be paying 4.00 gal or maybe more.. its absolutely rediculous. I think that these oil companies see us finding an alternative fuel situation or creeping more toward hybrids and see that their profits will then take a hit, so they're "milking the cow" for all its worth while its still alive. such a dirtbag move. oil companies and politics make me sick. well, now that i have some anger built up, i'm going to go use it in a positive way, and go murder my bi's and tri's...

[LaGrange26]

hey man what ever you need for some motivation. These gas prices are killer I drive a little 93' Dodge Neon and im feeling it at the pump. I could just amgain how the Ford f250 are feeling

[RenegadeRows]

i heard they will be 4/gal by the summr and will never go down to 3 again.

time to trade your suv's in

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by slanginweight

Just read new article on yahoo, and they're expecting gas prices to rise to average around 3.75gal. that means that some of us will be paying 4.00 gal or maybe more.. its absolutely rediculous. I think that these oil companies see us finding an alternative fuel situation or creeping more toward hybrids and see that their profits will then take a hit, so they're "milking the cow" for all its worth while its still alive. such a dirtbag move. oil companies and politics make me sick. well, now that i have some anger built up, i'm going to go use it in a positive way, and go murder my bi's and tri's...

then do the smart thing... gas companies sell stock. a wise investor might see it as an opportunity. we can all sit here and complain about gas prices, but it will never change a thing

[bigrobbierob]

Originally Posted by slanginweight

Just read new article on yahoo, and they're expecting gas prices to rise to average around 3.75gal. that means that some of us will be paying 4.00 gal or maybe more.. its absolutely rediculous. I think that these oil companies see us finding an alternative fuel situation or creeping more toward hybrids and see that their profits will then take a hit, so they're "milking the cow" for all its worth while its still alive. such a dirtbag move. oil companies and politics make me sick. well, now that i have some anger built up, i'm going to go use it in a positive way, and go murder my bi's and tri's...

The weird thing is I'm studying this in Micro-economics now. That, along with other things I've found out over the last few months, has altered my thinking somewhat.

* My textbook was written 4 years ago when US gas prices were just over $2....prices in England were $5 and Germany was $6. It's not just "gas companies" either. The government taxes gas in order to try to curb it's use to prevent pollution. The same theory is used on cigarette tax...we'll just keeping adding taxes on it and less people will do it.

* The price isn't from shortage. We have several untapped reserves in the US...we just don't use them. We just found several hundred trillion gallons in N. Dakota. We have enough untapped crude in Alaska to last a hundred years or so. We dont tap it due to the environment.

* Another "blame" is the lack of refineries in the US. It takes approx. 10 years to build one. A refinery hasn't been built in the US since the late 70"s ...didn't we have a "crisis" then too (even though it was for completely different reasons)? So much for using foresight. There was actualy a scientist in the 60's that predicted the 70's crsis and said it would get better until the 21st century...looks like he was right, too bad no one listened.

* Refineries bring up another issue. Due to our ever increasing "emission standards" the crude must undergo a costly refining process and the cost gets passed on to the consumer.

* Alternate energy sources No feasable with our current technology. Maybe...just maybe...in 20 years or so. The amount of energy it takes to produce the energy from hydrogen to drive is very inefficient. Electric car's take dozens of batteries and need constant recharging. Ethanol...lol...yeah, lets tap into our food supply. The increased demand for corn/wheat will increase the price. Not only do we eat it, so do livestock. Again, all the increased prices will hit the consumer.

* A good alternative for utilities is nuclear, but again "environmental issues"

Here's a great documentary if you have 90 minutes to kill

[Palo Alto Labs]

My theory is this:

The USA plans to run the rest of the world DRY. Which will destroy the middle east's economy, and leave us with a monopoly on oil. We will then be one of the last places with suitable oil reserves, which will then allow us to again, regain control as the super-power. When the rest of the world run's dry, gov't wont blink twice at the environment to get that black gold flowing.

I think we need to rely on foreign oil as long as possible... its worth the extra $$ to keep our own reserves healthy

[ReaperX]

Does that mean Ford Motors will finally be out of business ?


They've been the bastard child in automobiles for way too long. Maybe the gas prices will finally take them out.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs

My theory is this:

The USA plans to run the rest of the world DRY. Which will destroy the middle east's economy, and leave us with a monopoly on oil. We will then be one of the last places with suitable oil reserves, which will then allow us to again, regain control as the super-power. When the rest of the world run's dry, gov't wont blink twice at the environment to get that black gold flowing.

I think we need to rely on foreign oil as long as possible... its worth the extra $$ to keep our own reserves healthy

USA with a monopoly on oil ? I think that is an inaccurate statement.

Unless we control all oil reserves (which will never happen), it is impossible for the USA to have full control of all oil.



EDIT: I just re-read your statement. That is a bunch of crazy talk. If anyone runs the world dry of oil, it'll be China, not the USA.

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

EDIT: I just re-read your statement. That is a bunch of crazy talk. If anyone runs the world dry of oil, it'll be China, not the USA.

Ha crazy talk? well im not basing a thesis statement on it.. just my idea

I didnt say we will run the world dry... Im just saying that we are keeping our oil reserves for when the middle east runs dry

why havent we tapped our own oil reserves? we have a healthy supply still in the ground. when the world runs dry on oil, the few places that have oil left in the ground will be economic powerhouses

maybe im completely wrong.. again... just an idea.. but it would make sense..

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs

My theory is this:

The USA plans to run the rest of the world DRY. Which will destroy the middle east's economy, and leave us with a monopoly on oil. We will then be one of the last places with suitable oil reserves, which will then allow us to again, regain control as the super-power. When the rest of the world run's dry, gov't wont blink twice at the environment to get that black gold flowing.

I think we need to rely on foreign oil as long as possible... its worth the extra $$ to keep our own reserves healthy

Didnt you know teh middle east is the new place to be?? it will never run dry and the US will never be this super power you speak of.

Like Bigrob said, gas prices in the US are sooo much cheaper then UK,Europe, Australia etc so stop your whining.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by Australian made

Didnt you know teh middle east is the new place to be?? it will never run dry and the US will never be this super power you speak of.

Like Bigrob said, gas prices in the US are sooo much cheaper then UK,Europe, Australia etc so stop your whining.

We can whine because it is America. Whining in America isn't a priviledge, its a RIGHT. LOL.

[Palo Alto Labs]

Originally Posted by Australian made

Didnt you know teh middle east is the new place to be?? it will never run dry and the US will never be this super power you speak of.

Like Bigrob said, gas prices in the US are sooo much cheaper then UK,Europe, Australia etc so stop your whining.

ha really? never? strong words.

and im not whining.. i will never complain about gas prices... because when you consider a bottle of water costs $2.. gas is a deal at $3.50. people complain about gas prices, but then blow their money on useless things. i dont whine about what i cannot control

im not saying my theory will pan out in the next 2-3 years.. im talking 15-20 years in the future. the Mid east WILL run dry eventually, as will every other oil field in the world as long as we continue to consume oil..

[Australian made]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

We can whine because it is America. Whining in America isn't a priviledge, its a RIGHT. LOL.

I thought the English were the whingers.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs

Ha crazy talk? well im not basing a thesis statement on it.. just my idea

I didnt say we will run the world dry... Im just saying that we are keeping our oil reserves for when the middle east runs dry

why havent we tapped our own oil reserves? we have a healthy supply still in the ground. when the world runs dry on oil, the few places that have oil left in the ground will be economic powerhouses

maybe im completely wrong.. again... just an idea.. but it would make sense..

We do have oil reserves in the US. However, our own reserves are not substantial to supply the demand in the US. This forces us to resort to the middle east primarly. There are a few places other than the middle east that we can get oil from, but the majority comes from them.


It is scary in a sense that the US is so dependent on the oil in the middle east.