Gas Prices

Ripped1 · 03-12-2008, 12:16 PM

I work for an oil distribution company and let me assure you all the cost of gas and oil is going up much higher. We were just given another increase on oil prices and that means everyone will be going up soon. Makes my job hell because no one wants to pay higher prices.

ReaperX · 03-12-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripped1

I work for an oil distribution company and let me assure you all the cost of gas and oil is going up much higher. We were just given another increase on oil prices and that means everyone will be going up soon. Makes my job hell because no one wants to pay higher prices.

You know what though ? That's the BEAUTY about gas. It is probably the most sexy inelastic product to date.

If they want to price gouge and charge $10.00/gal people will pay it. It is impossible to find an adequate substitute.

E85/Flex Fuel dosen't count cuz 99% of the cars out there today can't run that stuff.

Even with medication you can buy generic. I honestly believe the only TRUE inelastic product out on the market is gasoline. Hell, the government should just tax the hell out of it, score some extra bucks.

Ripped1 · 03-12-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ReaperX

You know what though ? That's the BEAUTY about gas. It is probably the most sexy inelastic product to date.

If they want to price gouge and charge $10.00/gal people will pay it. It is impossible to find an adequate substitute.

E85/Flex Fuel dosen't count cuz 99% of the cars out there today can't run that stuff.

Even with medication you can buy generic. I honestly believe the only TRUE inelastic product out on the market is gasoline. Hell, the government should just tax the hell out of it, score some extra bucks.

Don't give them any ideas

Palo Alto Labs · 03-12-2008, 01:15 PM

There are a few more Diesels coming into market this/next year.

hopefully americans will embrace this and utilize it. While it does cost about $0.50 more per gallon, a turbo diesel VW will get close to 50mpg.

I dont understand why hybrids are all the talk when diesels out perform them with less technology. In reality, many hybrids only average about 35-45mpg, not the 60mpg that they often advertise... plus hybrids are only economical in city driving.. most rely on gas for highway or steep terrain.

Hybrids are not the answer.. IMO just a cracked stepping stone in the evolution of the automobile. Economically, when you factor in their increased cost + the fact that they need heavy, expensive, and corrosive batteries that must be replaced every few years.. diesel makes more sense for commuter cars. Again... my opinion

Ripped1 · 03-12-2008, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs

There are a few more Diesels coming into market this/next year.

hopefully americans will embrace this and utilize it. While it does cost about $0.50 more per gallon, a turbo diesel VW will get close to 50mpg.

I dont understand why hybrids are all the talk when diesels out perform them with less technology. In reality, many hybrids only average about 35-45mpg, not the 60mpg that they often advertise... plus hybrids are only economical in city driving.. most rely on gas for highway or steep terrain.

Hybrids are not the answer.. IMO just a cracked stepping stone in the evolution of the automobile. Economically, when you factor in their increased cost + the fact that they need heavy, expensive, and corrosive batteries that must be replaced every few years.. diesel makes more sense for commuter cars. Again... my opinion

You seen the price of diesel lately?

Palo Alto Labs · 03-12-2008, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripped1

You seen the price of diesel lately?

its 50 cents higher a gallon here.

a hybrid costs $5-$8k more

Ripped1 · 03-12-2008, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Palo Alto Labs

its 50 cents higher a gallon here.

a hybrid costs $5-$8k more

Ya Diesel doesnt seem like much of a deal though either.

You guys can all get used to the days of a cheap oil change. I get amazed at every email I get at work with updates on where the prices of oil are. I then get to let the customers knnow who in turn complain like I have something to do with it. Ahhh thank you Exxon Mobil

AM07 · 03-12-2008, 04:46 PM

Diesel doesn't seem like a deal when compared to the price per gallon, but you receive MUCH better mileage in a diesel car compared to a gasoline car.

It isn't only gas costs that hurt the American in the pocket, because when gas costs rise, the cost of EVERYTHING rises.

This whole environmental bull**** global warming scare tactic isn't helping with prices either.

Palo Alto Labs · 03-12-2008, 05:13 PM

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Diesel doesn't seem like a deal when compared to the price per gallon, but you receive MUCH better mileage in a diesel car compared to a gasoline car.

well of course... but you get 2x the bang for your buck.

the problem with america and diesel is that most people associate diesel with the smelly, noisy, smoky 1970's diesels that tried to be popular.

the older generations still will not embrace the fuel.

they are making a comeback because younger generations dont remember (or werent around) back then.
plus, diesel engines run for a long time. you can get 200k out of a diesel easily.

I saw something about a car that ran on compressed air. One 3hour home fillup would get you over 100 miles. the italian car sells for about $12k usd. they are small, but emit zero pollutants, and generate air conditioning from the decompressing air. the only limitation was the lack of heat for passenger heating. almost 0 maintenance as well. makes much more sense than fossil fuels.

**matthew76** · 03-12-2008, 05:15 PM

I actually get a discount of 30 cents on the dollar twice a month on Post because I travel back and forth so much. So I save. Luckily, when I must travel to Fort Bragg, the car is rented and the gas is on the Goverment. Ha-Ha! So when I'm there, all my students ride around with me to save money. LoL!

**matthew76** · 03-12-2008, 05:17 PM

Every single vehicle in our fleet at the Fire Department is diesel. We have our own fill tanks that we and the Police Department use. But, it's not that much cheaper than civilian gas prices. I think it's like 10 cent discount for City Goverment.

ReaperX · 03-12-2008, 05:21 PM

My government agency used to have Dodge Caravans that were really old and had tons of miles on them.

They wanted to go 'green' so they replaced all over our Caravans and bought 7 new 2008 Dodge Durangos, BUT they can also run on Flex Fuel......yeah.

AM07 · 03-12-2008, 05:33 PM

I love how these companies release these "green" SUVs. How ironic is that, a ****ing green Yukon. You're much more environmentally friendly driving a Honda Civic than that huge piece of ****.

The logic of the American people amazes me sometimes.

Ripped1 · 03-12-2008, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by matthew76

I actually get a discount of 30 cents on the dollar twice a month on Post because I travel back and forth so much. So I save. Luckily, when I must travel to Fort Bragg, the car is rented and the gas is on the Goverment. Ha-Ha! So when I'm there, all my students ride around with me to save money. LoL!

All right now you got my attention where on Ft Bragg. I was original 3/73 Ar before the deactivated it

ReaperX · 03-13-2008, 08:24 AM

They need to produce a Hummer H2 that is hybrid. So I can drive around excessive amounts of mass, yet still stay green.

Instead of 9 miles to the gallon, hybrid version will get 10. lol.

Australian made · 03-13-2008, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by AM07

I love how these companies release these "green" SUVs. How ironic is that, a ****ing green Yukon. You're much more environmentally friendly driving a Honda Civic than that huge piece of ****.

The logic of the American people amazes me sometimes.

Lol well said