Another university shooting...
- 02-15-2008, 12:25 AM
Another university shooting...
For those of you that may have not heard, a gunman at Northern Illinois University walked into a oceanography class with a shotgun and started blasting. He killed five people and then himself. what a ****ing ***** ass *****, this world is better off without *******s like him.
More details: 6 shot dead, including gunman, at Northern Illinois University - CNN.com
- 02-15-2008, 12:35 AM
I have no idea how immensely ****ed up you have to be to do such a thing..
These things put me at a loss of words -- especially when I search for a reason anyone would ever do anything like this
Last edited by Red Dog; 02-15-2008 at 12:35 AM. Reason: Typo
02-15-2008, 12:55 AM
Yea im from Chicago. Been to NIU once. I know a few peopel there and a friend of mine has his closest friends at that school. Its fukced how our world is turing out. Im in disgust and embarassed to be an american sometimes.
02-15-2008, 01:19 AM
i cant understand why anyone would want to kill a bunch of strangers for no reason.
02-15-2008, 01:24 AM
Its sh!t like this that really has me questioning whether or not I should ever even consider bringing a child into this world. I mean, if its this bad right now, its only gonna get worse.
02-15-2008, 01:32 AM
02-15-2008, 06:09 AM
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02-15-2008, 06:19 AM
these random shootings have been getting out of control. I really think each time one happens what is the cause. Is it depression, do these kids get picked on to the point they feal useless. Is it drug use. it is really is sad that they resort to killing others in the process. Hell if life is that bad shoot yourself trusty me I will not care
02-15-2008, 07:46 AM
Look what is happening with gear right now.
As people, there is not a lot we can do about these types of incidents, although we'd like to think there is. Every person has a free will to make their own decisions, and at the spur of the moment things like this happen.
02-15-2008, 07:47 AM
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02-15-2008, 08:02 AM
02-15-2008, 08:05 AM
How did I know you would reply with a response like that. You really don't get it. Ban the sale of guns and the supply drops dramatically. The supply is still there but it makes them harder to come by especially for the everyday person that would normall buy one for "protection".
02-15-2008, 08:22 AM
Making guns illegal only takes them out of the hands of law abiding citizens who use them for protection or recreation (hunting, sport shooting). If you took more of an interest and did some in depth research you'll find that Gun control laws here in the US do NOT reduce gun related crimes. Why take away guns from people who use them properly and legally? You think the majority of criminals purchase their firearms legally? The answer to that rhetorical question is a resounding NO. Take for instance Florida. They not only allow law abiding citizens to own guns, you can apply and obtain a license to carry a concealed weapon. Now although gun violence did not drop significantly, it did not increase. And when you did into the statistics the gun related crimes against Florida citizens dropped dramatically. When incarcerated criminals were questioned as to why this drastic drop of violent crimes against Florida natives/citizens the majority answered the same. "You never know if a resident owns or is carrying a concealed firearm."
The question I pose you, is would this have happened to this degree if someone in that room was carrying a concealed firearm for protection?
It's a shame shootings like this happen. No, I digress its more than a shame, its an abomination. But the answer isn't taking guns from people who legally obtain them and use them for legal purposes. Figure out why these deluded individuals believe that its alright to shoot and kill innocent people. Take it seriously when you hear a classmate or acquaintance talk about committing a crime like this. Don't just chalk it up to "Oh, s/he must be joking". Many (not all) of these tragedies could have been averted if people gave two ****s and used common sense.
And sometimes there just isn't a reason. What happened to just plain "crazy" people? Why do we always have to find some deeper, underlying symptom or problem? What happened to some people are just "broken", or not "right" in the head.
I can't imagine how the families of those six victims feel, and I also feel for the family of the shooter. Not the shooter himself, but the family of the shooter. Because they have to live the rest of their lives with knowing that their loved one needlessly ended the lives of innocent people. And they will probably ask the same question "Could we have prevented this?".
Last edited by Nabisco; 02-15-2008 at 08:24 AM. Reason: Edit: News increased victims to six
02-15-2008, 08:23 AM
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02-15-2008, 08:26 AM
OK smart guy answer my original question. Why is gun crime so much higher in the states then anywhere else? You guys are just more badass then the rest of us?
When guns became illegal in Australia it took thousands and thousands of guns off the street. I really don't see how this can be a bad thing.
02-15-2008, 09:13 AM
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02-15-2008, 12:14 PM
I have yet to hear about this. This is getting ridiculous. First, years ago, it was high school after high school, after the shooting at Columbine. Now, Virginia Tech seemed to have set off a series of college shootings.
What it is, is you have many people, several students, who have mental and/or emotional issues. Then they end up seeing horrible new stories like this played on television, over and over again. They eventually give in to their murderous and suicidal tendencies, and end up doing something as cold-hearted and sick as this.
I wish the victims and their families the best. This is just so sad.
02-15-2008, 12:39 PM
It is in the way people treat other people. Someone touched upon this awhile back, but it seems like there is more concern for animals than there is for human beings. This was in T-Bone's post about a homeless individual heckling him for money.
02-15-2008, 03:42 PM
The only way I think this will ever be controlled would be to literally put a blended marshall or officer in every single class being held -- yes, extremely unpractical, extremely expensive, etc. etc.. BUT it is, as far as I can see, its the only real deterrent anybody would have to not shooting up a class..
It'd be a similar principal to the marshalls on airplanes.. you try walking into a class with a gun and start firing with a trained marshall in there, you'd be lucky to get 1 shot off before he takes you down..
02-15-2008, 03:50 PM
i think students should take their safty into their own hands.
if you feel unsafe at school buy a gun.
if a few students in that class had guns then that crazy fcuker would have been lit up before he got 5 shots off.
its really sad to say that but its a crazy world.
you have to protect yourself. you cant think that others will do it for you all the time.
02-15-2008, 04:14 PM
haha yeah well I mean its better than nothin..
I think we would if we could carry guns on campus! Its illegal to bring them anywhere on the property and if your caught with one I think you just get sh!t all over.. otherwise Id apply for a CWP and just carry one all the time!
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