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    For some reason I have been getting really bad dark circles under my eyes. It makes me look like I am strung out. Do you guys know anything that I can do to get rid of these????

    Also to add, I never really feel rested....Even after like 9 hrs. of sleep I wake up feeling lethargic...I think that I don't get deep sleep...

    Please help guys...chicks don't dig dark circles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    For some reason I have been getting really bad dark circles under my eyes. It makes me look like I am strung out. Do you guys know anything that I can do to get rid of these????

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    Dark circles can have a TON of reasons. Two of the most common are kidneys, and liver.

    Drink a ton of water, and get some rest... see if it begins to alleviate in about a week or two.

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    Oh... and one of the most common is it is just genetic... the skin under the eyes is very thin, and blood can be seen through the surface tissue easily.

    Grab some eye liner and embrace your natural Brandon Lee look.

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    kidneys and liver...! Thats kind of scary....whoa
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    Oh... and one of the most common is it is just genetic... the skin under the eyes is very thin, and blood can be seen through the surface tissue easily.

    Grab some eye liner and embrace your natural Brandon Lee look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    kidneys and liver...! Thats kind of scary....whoa
    Didn't mean to scare you... relax... I find when I get them slamming down water helps them go away pretty fast... along with all the crap thats lodged in my gut.

    Swallow water down to stop the release of Anti-Diuretic Hormone (ADH), and get all the water sitting around your body for days out... start fresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Just what the world needs, more emo-kids
    Speaking of which... whatever happened to "CryingEmo"

    I could never take him seriously with that name.

    "Remember Kids, its down the road, not across the street" (In reference to the cutting of the wrist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rodja View Post
    Just what the world needs, more emo-kids
    ahahaha true, but "The Crow" was one sick ass movie!!
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    it could be from lack of deep sleep too right????

    I never feel refreshed when I wake up....
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    it could be from lack of deep sleep too right????

    I never feel refreshed when I wake up....
    Yes, it is possible. I am a big fan of Rhodiola for improving sleep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    it could be from lack of deep sleep too right????

    I never feel refreshed when I wake up....
    Yeah... Fatigue is one reason.. there are a TON. There are other problems though if you never feel refreshed.

    Have you tryed some Melatonin yet? That refreshes myself nicely. Others will beg to differ though.

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    I have not tried anything for sleep as of yet...

    I was thinking of getting some Abyss from Nimbus when I get some robert deniro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    I have not tried anything for sleep as of yet...

    I was thinking of getting some Abyss from Nimbus when I get some robert deniro.
    Goto walgreens or target... you can pick up plenty of melatonin for about 3-4 bucks. No need to drop tons of cash if you do not need to.

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    haha thanks bro....so is Melatonin habbit forming?
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    HAHA I was the crow last year for Haloween......sh*t was tight....hittin' up Daytona clubs ...good times
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    any of you guys ever use like Tylenol PM or anything like that for better sleep?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    haha thanks bro....so is Melatonin habbit forming?
    Not for myself, and everything I have read says no. But I have heard others say otherwise.

    Try one out, see how it is for you.

    Everyone is different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    any of you guys ever use like Tylenol PM or anything like that for better sleep?
    I take melatonin 3mg
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    any of you guys ever use like Tylenol PM or anything like that for better sleep?
    The sleep in that IS habit forming, and makes you feel like **** in the morning. Stay away.

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    alright...well I guess I should go pick up some of this sh1T sounds good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DAdams91982 View Post
    The sleep in that IS habit forming, and makes you feel like **** in the morning. Stay away.

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    Good looking out....

    So you guys recommend like 3g's of Mela....?

    And how long before sleepy time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    Good looking out....

    So you guys recommend like 3g's of Mela....?

    And how long before sleepy time?
    I take like 3 grams gaba, 3mg melatonin, like an hour before i wanna go to sleep
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    how affordable is GABA?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    Good looking out....

    So you guys recommend like 3g's of Mela....?

    And how long before sleepy time?
    yeah... 3mgs is standard, though if you can find them in the 1mg form, I like those too, easier to alter your dose.

    30 minutes before bed.

    Wont knock you out like other sleep aides, but helps you fall asleep, and kick you into REM a tad quicker. Might be helpful in fixing your ****ed biological clock.

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    Ive got some REM Caps that I ordered a while back...you guys ever try this stuff????
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    how affordable is GABA?
    5 bucks 100 grams at nutraplanet........go to bulk supplies
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    GABA gives me a strange headache. It also tastes mild, yet horrible. Something about it makes me cringe when I drink it dissolved in water or juice. Works great though.

    Also, melatonin can actually work as a stimulant if taken at a high enough dose. I find it works MUCH better if you cut the 3mg tablets in half.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    GABA gives me a strange headache. It also tastes mild, yet horrible. Something about it makes me cringe when I drink it dissolved in water or juice. Works great though.

    Also, melatonin can actually work as a stimulant if taken at a high enough dose. I find it works MUCH better if you cut the 3mg tablets in half.
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    Ive had the Tylenol PM act as a stimulant at high doses... but I have gone all the way up to 15mgs with melatonin, and fall right to sleep (A bring down from some Adrenalin from genera).

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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    GABA gives me a strange headache. It also tastes mild, yet horrible. Something about it makes me cringe when I drink it dissolved in water or juice. Works great though.

    Also, melatonin can actually work as a stimulant if taken at a high enough dose. I find it works MUCH better if you cut the 3mg tablets in half.
    Dude i like the taste of Gaba? I'm guessing you dont go down town on a chick then....Lmao!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by TripDog View Post
    Dude i like the taste of Gaba? I'm guessing you dont go down town on a chick then....Lmao!!!
    ROFL
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    Dude i like the taste of Gaba? I'm guessing you dont go down town on a chick then....Lmao!!!
    I prefer to let her knees get dirty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesinner View Post
    I prefer to let MY knees get dirty.
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    Here are the ingredients of those REM CAPS I have:

    Valerian Root Extract - 150 mg
    Melatonin - 3mg
    5-HTP - 25MG
    Magnessium - 20mg
    Enzyme Enhancement System(protease,amylase,cellul ase,lipase...) - 19mg

    what do you guys think of this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    Here are the ingredients of those REM CAPS I have:

    Valerian Root Extract - 150 mg
    Melatonin - 3mg
    5-HTP - 25MG
    Magnessium - 20mg
    Enzyme Enhancement System(protease,amylase,cellul ase,lipase...) - 19mg

    what do you guys think of this?
    Looks good... the Melatonin and 5-HTP together are a nice little combo, not really enough valarian to do much, but low dose should keep the grogginess away.

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    alright sweet...im gonna pop one of these bad boys in little bit
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    maybe I should go pick up some GABA...then it will be on like donkey kong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by manifesto View Post
    maybe I should go pick up some GABA...then it will be on like donkey kong.
    Eh.... no need for the kitchen sink. See how the REM does you first.

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