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  1. My Doctors Visit


    Well today I went back to my Doc for a follow up. High blood pressure is in my family, although I didn't think mine was that high. I have gained some fat, water, and muscle lately. Anyway my pressure was 158/90. Doc prescribed me Hydroclorot 25MG once a day. I googled it and it is a diuretic?. I am taking a few pre-workout supps and wondering if I should stop, especially since they are "creatine related". Here is a list,

    Phosphagen Elite
    Vasocharge
    Fast Twitch

    To me it doesn't make much sense to take a diruetic and creatine, although I don't know much about diuretics.....I do know creatine pulls water into the muscle cell, so without enough water it will not have any effect. Anyone elese who takes this or knows anything about this presription, please give input.


  2. Is Hydrochlorot the same thing as Hydrochlorothiazide?

    If so, I found this on MedlinePlus.gov:

    "Use of creatine with diuretics such as hydrochlorothiazide or furosemide (Lasix®) should be avoided because of the risks of dehydration and electrolyte disturbances."
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Is Hydrochlorot the same thing as Hydrochlorothiazide?

    If so, I found this on MedlinePlus.gov:

    "Use of creatine with diuretics such as hydrochlorothiazide or furosemide (Lasix®) should be avoided because of the risks of dehydration and electrolyte disturbances."
    I have no idea, but that really sucks. I just placed a new order for some EAS Phosphagen. Maybe I'll call the doctor and say I refuse to take it.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have no idea, but that really sucks. I just placed a new order for some EAS Phosphagen. Maybe I'll call the doctor and say I refuse to take it.
    I'd say you're priorities need tweaked. You'd rather not take a drug that is obviously needed for your condition just so you won't waste the 20 bucks you spent on the creatine? You can live w/o creatine, you cannot live w/ high BP however, take the advice for what it's worth...

  5. I'm gonna have to agree, unless you can get your blood pressure down without the drugs, which would be the best option.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by lifted View Post
    I'd say you're priorities need tweaked. You'd rather not take a drug that is obviously needed for your condition just so you won't waste the 20 bucks you spent on the creatine? You can live w/o creatine, you cannot live w/ high BP however, take the advice for what it's worth...

    Thats not the only reason. I have problems as it is pissing too much, even when I don't get all my water in for the day. I also have irritable bowel syndrome, which causes diarhea and constipation alternations....So I am afraid if I take this medication I will end up in the ER dehydrated. I do my cardio 1 hour a day to keep my bp under control as it is. You see I really don't know at this point, but I have a clue and I don't think adding a diuretic at this point will help my cause.

  7. As I'm sure you know, your diet is a major component with hypertension as well. Adding fruits and vegetables and restricting added sodium may be helpful. You might want to read about the DASH diet.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    As I'm sure you know, your diet is a major component with hypertension as well. Adding fruits and vegetables and restricting added sodium may be helpful. You might want to read about the DASH diet.
    Yes, I have been trying to stay away from sodium. Fruits and vegetables is something I definitely need to eat more of. I think I can control it with diet at this point, and maybe the medication really isn't necessary at this point.

  9. T-Bone, have you ever kept track of your blood pressure at home. My blood pressure while im relaxed and doing my normal daily buisness is always around 120-60. When i go to the doctor it goes through the roof.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by machine528 View Post
    T-Bone, have you ever kept track of your blood pressure at home. My blood pressure while im relaxed and doing my normal daily buisness is always around 120-60. When i go to the doctor it goes through the roof.

    I check it once in a while at Rite Aid, but those machines are always off, not even really worth the time. I was pretty nervous about it, because I had been thinking about it....Plus I just don't like going to the doctor.

  11. I bought a portable blood pressure device. They are usually prescribed to people borderline stroke to help them monitor blood pressure. You would be amazed how different your readings will be when your relaxed and not about to have an anxiety attack thinking about it.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by machine528 View Post
    I bought a portable blood pressure device. They are usually prescribed to people borderline stroke to help them monitor blood pressure. You would be amazed how different your readings will be when your relaxed and not about to have an anxiety attack thinking about it.
    That is another reason why I don't really think medication is needed. I told my Parents who are both in their late 60's that my docotor prescibed it to me. They asked what my pressure was and said that it didn't sound too high....They have been on blood pressure medicine for years. They also say I should take it first and see how I react. I don't agree though. If you haven't noticed I am a very STUBORN person. Can't help it, it is just how I am.

  13. Otherwise I am in good health. I feel good. My weight is up, some fat gain, some water, some muscle. My strength is great, and I'm just very happy. Also libido has not been this high in a while. Oh yeah, also I am "on". So when I go off I will definitely lose some water weight anyway, and bp will go down.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I have no idea, but that really sucks. I just placed a new order for some EAS Phosphagen. Maybe I'll call the doctor and say I refuse to take it.
    Just to throw in my .02 cents. Uncontrolled hypertension will set you up for many medical issues down the line. While right now you may think this is no big deal in time you will see the long term effects of poor management. Uncontrolled hypertension is a major risk factor for heart disease, stroke, and kidney failure......which are the more serious of many other issues that can also result. Take care of yourself now and deal with this early to help prevent major issues down the line....

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  15. Quote Originally Posted by machine528 View Post
    T-Bone, have you ever kept track of your blood pressure at home. My blood pressure while im relaxed and doing my normal daily buisness is always around 120-60. When i go to the doctor it goes through the roof.
    I have this problem as well its known as "white coat hypertension". Also if your arms are over a certain size you need to request a adult size large arm cuff. Using a cuff too small can make the BP go up by 20 points or more.

    Check out this thread I started on this. There is a link to a PDF file that talks about "miscuffing"

    Please Help, Blood Pressure measurements and arm size

  16. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    Otherwise I am in good health. I feel good. My weight is up, some fat gain, some water, some muscle. My strength is great, and I'm just very happy. Also libido has not been this high in a while. Oh yeah, also I am "on". So when I go off I will definitely lose some water weight anyway, and bp will go down.
    158/90 IMO is definitely high. You are 'ON' so I would not be taking the creatine, save it for Post Cycle. Also the fat gain, and water gain is probably making the BP worse but still doesn't mean it isn't doing you damage.

    I would strongly urge you to get the BP under control NOW rather than later.

    Also I have heard and read that the drug store BP machines actually are fairly accurate.


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  17. Quote Originally Posted by Rivet View Post
    I have this problem as well its known as "white coat hypertension". Also if your arms are over a certain size you need to request a adult size large arm cuff. Using a cuff too small can make the BP go up by 20 points or more.

    Check out this thread I started on this. There is a link to a PDF file that talks about "miscuffing"

    Please Help, Blood Pressure measurements and arm size
    I'm in this boat too.. Last doctor visit read like 180/90-something... Got a bigger cuff and it dropped like 40 points, still high, but I did have to ride my bike across campus not too long before.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by ozarkaBRAND View Post
    I'm in this boat too.. Last doctor visit read like 180/90-something... Got a bigger cuff and it dropped like 40 points, still high, but I did have to ride my bike across campus not too long before.
    That was my problem for the longest time the nurse would use the wrong cuff size. My readings were very very high. The doctor came in and asked what cuff she used and he told her she needed the bigger one. When i got the right fit it was lower by 30-40 points. I still get stressed out right before i get my reading though.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    158/90 IMO is definitely high. You are 'ON' so I would not be taking the creatine, save it for Post Cycle. Also the fat gain, and water gain is probably making the BP worse but still doesn't mean it isn't doing you damage.

    I would strongly urge you to get the BP under control NOW rather than later.

    Also I have heard and read that the drug store BP machines actually are fairly accurate.


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    Thats all I needed to hear. I'll stop the creatine and take my BP medicine. I hope it doesn't interfere with or cause problems with my 1t/4ad cycle. Also I'm concerned about my pct with Torem and Post Cycle Support. Maybe I will just use Post Cycle Support.....Believe it or not, I would rather be safe than sorry. I just don't always trust the doctor. For some reason I trust Crowler, even though I don't even know him. I already took my creatine today though, so I am gonna start my Hydrocholrot tommorow.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by rpen22 View Post
    Is Hydrochlorot the same thing as Hydrochlorothiazide?

    If so, I found this on MedlinePlus.gov:

    "Use of creatine with diuretics such as hydrochlorothiazide or furosemide (Lasix®) should be avoided because of the risks of dehydration and electrolyte disturbances."

    Well I am not so sure on this now that I have decided to go ahead and take the drug. I called the doctors and voiced my concerns. They called me back and said that the doctor really wants me to take it and that it is extremely mild and a very low dose. So if I take this does it mean I have to completely give up on creatine?. Its too bad because I did finally find a product that works pretty good for me....If I replace enough fluids and electrolytes wouldn't it be possible to still use my EAS Phosphagen?. I would call back and ask the doctor, but I think all medical professionals have a dim view of any supplements.

  21. I'm really not sure. Does this creatine really work well enough to chance it?

  22. T-Bone,

    158/90 is pretty high, even considering white coat syndrome - something I have for sure...unless I really try to relax my BP is always 10pts higher at the doc's office.

    Are you doing cardio? A few weeks of moderate intensity cardio @ 20min/day can really make a difference. Also look into TwinLab Blood Pressure Control, Hawthorn Berry, and Celery Seed extract. Very effective natural supps that seem to work very well.

    High BP is no joke, but you can make lifestyle changes that can bring it under control without the use of prescription medication, in some cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CROWLER View Post
    158/90 IMO is definitely high. You are 'ON' so I would not be taking the creatine, save it for Post Cycle. Also the fat gain, and water gain is probably making the BP worse but still doesn't mean it isn't doing you damage.

    I would strongly urge you to get the BP under control NOW rather than later.

    Also I have heard and read that the drug store BP machines actually are fairly accurate.


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    Thats all I needed to hear. I'll stop the creatine and take my BP medicine. I hope it doesn't interfere with or cause problems with my 1t/4ad cycle. Also I'm concerned about my post cycle therapy with Torem and Post Cycle Support. Maybe I will just use Post Cycle Support.....Believe it or not, I would rather be safe than sorry. I just don't always trust the doctor. For some reason I trust Crowler, even though I don't even know him. I already took my creatine today though, so I am gonna start my Hydrocholrot tommorow.
    Let me see if I understand this. You have a history of high blood pressure in the family. You are on a cycle. You have very elevated BP. Your doctor doesn't know you are on a cycle. You doctor gives you a script for HBP medication. You are taking creatine. You are worried that the medication will interfere or be counter indicative with creatine consumption. Your conclusion is that you drop the creatine so you can take the BP medication. You are staying on the cycle. Am I getting all of this right?

  24. Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
    Let me see if I understand this. You have a history of high blood pressure in the family. You are on a cycle. You have very elevated BP. Your doctor doesn't know you are on a cycle. You doctor gives you a script for HBP medication. You are taking creatine. You are worried that the medication will interfere or be counter indicative with creatine consumption. Your conclusion is that you drop the creatine so you can take the BP medication. You are staying on the cycle. Am I getting all of this right?

    Pretty much thats it. I'm just wondering if I can ever go back on the creatine or if it is really necessary to stop taking it. I'll take some constuctive critism. Go ahead....let me have it.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by BigVrunga View Post
    T-Bone,

    158/90 is pretty high, even considering white coat syndrome - something I have for sure...unless I really try to relax my BP is always 10pts higher at the doc's office.

    Are you doing cardio? A few weeks of moderate intensity cardio @ 20min/day can really make a difference. Also look into TwinLab Blood Pressure Control, Hawthorn Berry, and Celery Seed extract. Very effective natural supps that seem to work very well.

    High BP is no joke, but you can make lifestyle changes that can bring it under control without the use of prescription medication, in some cases.

    Yes I do cardio for 1 hour a day 6 times a week.
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