Gay rights very much rely on the assumption that homosexuality is genetic. That is, you, society, and the individual have no (or at least not much) control over it.
Wouldnt that increase the reproductive rates through indirect stimulization of the males?
I'm not sure, I'd have to run a lot of experiments to find out.
Natural law states that only genes with a survival advantage get conveyed to the next generation of a species. Clearly a homosexual gene, if it exists in such simplistic form, would not be a dominant trait. There is no survival advantage, just the opposite. By virtue of it's character, there is no reproduction at all that takes place with homosexuals so the gene would limit it's own existence.
We all come from breast feeding, boys and girls alike start at momma breast, so it stands to reason. Women are entitled to have a healthy lesbian curiosity. 
You indict homosexual as if it is some negative pathology developed through a lack of moral regulation; you're like the homophobic Durkheim.Natural law states that only genes with a survival advantage get conveyed to the next generation of a species. Clearly a homosexual gene, if it exists in such simplistic form, would not be a dominant trait. There is no survival advantage, just the opposite. By virtue of it's character, there is no reproduction at all that takes place with homosexuals so the gene would limit it's own existence.
I do agree however that two hot chicks on each other is reasonable natural
I tell you what is really doing it these days, all the estrogens in the environment and a latent social agenda to encourage it. Homosexuality has always been at the bottom of the curve to some self-limited degree, but genes will not explain the recent surge of this behavior.
My friend you do have a point.
Very True. Society is now more "allowing" of it. For example:
Let's also not forget that back in the day a lot of gay men probably did not express their homosexuality but rather lived in solitude. What else would you do if your only choice was to marry the sex that you weren't attracted to?
Indeed it was.
Which would make sense if it were a one or the other proposition. It isn't. And your natural law would then have to explain the continuing presence of homosexual behavior in a myriad of species, not just humans.
Like I said, aberrant characteristics flare out at the baseline of all human curves, be it measuring sexual preference, intellect, height, weight, etc.. but the "normal" and optimal state is found past the asymptote. It's not a knock on homos of any species, it's seen in all natural sigmoids and that just is what it is.
Hold on Mullet, where did I state anything homophobic in my comments? I have not indicted any man, nor did I make any moral argument for or against anything. I have stated a fact that expresses a mathematical phenomena, nothing more. If you find love in another man's hairy ass, that is none of my beez-wax. I would never deny you your sexuality, it's just your preference I don't understand. Obviously, there is some negative and erroneous pathology involved if you desire that, let's be honest! You were not designed to receive that. But that was not my point at all and I didn't even go into that, so put your claws up pussy cat.
Talking of cats....i had to buy a new litter box today. Im fed up of sitting here talking to you guys when one of my cats comes along a dumps some toxic spill in the littler box.But that was not my point at all and I didn't even go into that, so put your claws up pussy cat.
Translation: If you make a nice little bell curve showing height vs population of people at this height, the really tall and really short people will be at the ends of this bell curve. Genius.
You're going to have to explain where this asymptote is, because right now what you're saying doesn't make any sense. Do you perhaps mean "within 1 standard deviation"?
I'm sure that homosexuals aren't offended by your brilliant observation that they're in the minority of the population.
Yes, generally considered to comprise about 66% right?
Don't know for sure if there is a genetic impact on sexuality, but I do know that children who have older siblings who are male are more likely to be homosexual due to increased androgen exposure in the womb.
You stated this:Hold on Mullet, where did I state anything homophobic in my comments? I have not indicted any man, nor did I make any moral argument for or against anything. I have stated a fact that expresses a mathematical phenomena, nothing more. If you find love in another man's hairy ass, that is none of my beez-wax. I would never deny you your sexuality, it's just your preference I don't understand. Obviously, there is some negative and erroneous pathology involved if you desire that, let's be honest! You were not designed to receive that. But that was not my point at all and I didn't even go into that, so put your claws up pussy cat.
and then proceed to claim your comments weren't condescending toward homosexuals. Then, in your response you explicitly express derogatory opinions toward homosexuals. Strange logic.
I'm pretty convinced genetics play a role in every aspect of our lives.
Not sure if your study was more recent but:
Mullet, we have been friends a long time, no? You know I have no ill will for you at all and my comments were by no means derogatory. There is absolute and universal true and false though, whether we can agree on moral right and wrong, and it's related to position. My position was this: A homosexual act can not result in offspring. Can we agree that is a universally true thesis, at least by "natural" means? Therefore, if homosexuality is a genetic trait (which seems unlikely) it is indeed self-limiting. More likely, it is a genetic predisposition that is triggered by various environmental prompts and conditions.
I have no ill-feelings toward you D, none at all. I have appreciated your input and concern since I've been on the board.
A study of gay sheep appears to confirm the controversial suggestion that there is a biological basis for sexual preference.
Sorry doc, just curious here,
People with Down's don't mate often, yet there seems to be plenty of them going around. Uninherited genetic disorders and polygenetic diseases are examples of what you want to look into.
I think that a couple thousand psychologists would like to have a word with you. And by a "word with you" I mean "educate you with the clue-by-four."
Try using a litter box deodorizer. Also, if I clean the litter box daily the smell is almost non-existent.
Yes, it is your choice based on a preference. Obviously, there is no true imperative that you must act on your sexual desires one way or another, so if you do you must choose to do so. As K points on, the "seat of feelings" is a major site of preference development and emotional formation. Lots and lots of chemicals are involved, peptides as well and hormones, GABA receptors, the works, so the issue is complex and probably very compounded in most cases. That's why I say this is not a 1 or 2 gene "trait" per say.
Do you have a clue what causes Down's? Are you honestly comparing the voluntary act of engaging in homosexual behavior, with a true genetic disorder involving an entire chromosome?! If that's true, it's the best kept secret on the planet. You know something you're not telling us Poly, or is somebody just a little touchy about their gayness?
No, I'm comparing the act of involuntary feelings for people of the same sex with the involuntary act of being retarded.Do you have a clue what causes Down's? Are you honestly comparing the voluntary act of engaging in homosexual behavior, with a true genetic disorder involving an entire chromosome?! If that's true, it's the best kept secret on the planet. You know something you're not telling us Poly, or is somebody just a little touchy about their gayness?
Haha, very well. But please give humanity some credit. We are not simply mathematical equations with complex yet predictable outcomes. The whole is much greater than the sum of it's parts. If you know quantum math, you know that nothing is real until a choice is made and it is observed to be real. Humans have the power to control their behavior. It's about the only thing in this whole world that you do honestly control. You can feel whatever you like involuntarily, but you choose your voluntary responses.No, I'm comparing the act of involuntary feelings for people of the same sex with the involuntary act of being retarded.
I'm not touchy about my gayness since I'm into people with vaginas and all, but I'm super touchy about people who say things that don't make sense, especially when it comes to math
Doc...ur sig sounds like something from a 70s porno....?!
If Schroedinger's Cat walks into a forest, and no one is around to observe it, is he really in the forest?
If my hand slaps your face, but your too stoned to observe it, did I really slap you on the face?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat
(psst...i know ..... hehe. I was joking. Needed a reason to slap you for not spreading enough reps around before repping me again) :cheers:
Only if he survived that big vial of deadly poison! Never understood why it had to be that way, but oh well.
Oh my goodness, LMAO, that's too funny. Is that Ace & Gary, the Asia version?I know I shouldnt, but I just couldnt help it, its too funny...
No, I believe homosexuality is as genetic as heterosexuality. Think back to your first "crush". At that point in time did anyone ever tell you it had to be a girl? No, it just was. I guess one could argue that this happens because kids do what their parents do, but then a huge kink gets thrown back into the equation with young kids with homosexual crushes and straight parents.
I played with barbies, too. But once I found out they didn't have nipples or vaginas I broke their heads off and stopped playing with them :lol:
Nobody told you, but as function of your development in Western society you had been imparted with the opinion that it is normal. Had you been developed in a society which openly embraced and supported heterosexuality [as some historically have] I have no doubts the sexual orientation of your first crush may be different.
Your powers of tolerance never fail to impress me bud.
Nipples and vaginas are cool.
