Johnnie O. Jackson

[ReaperX]

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Take a look at this video with Johnnie. I am not sure if Johnnie is doing a front lateral raise or just practicing for bowling. I remember I used to watch a bunch of these videos on bb.com and thought that working out with terrible form while flopping around like a fish out of the water was correct....since that's how the pros did it.


As of course I made zero gains for atleast 6 months doing this till I finally wised up.

 

[jrm]

I think I saw one correct rep in the whole video.

 

[xjsynx]

I think I saw one correct rep in the whole video.

No sh1t. I guess when you get that big, who gives a sh1t about form????

 

[Tiberius]

No sh1t. I guess when you get that big, who gives a sh1t about form????

Ask a powerlifter if he cares about form on Heavy rows or DB Overhead press.

JOJ is a powerlifter who happens to also be a bodybuilder.

 

[ReaperX]

Hm, interesting how he can workout like that and be ok and I got hurt.


I'm even more interested in how pros make gains by working out so sloppy. I've seen other pros workout in this manner too. with about 75-80% correct form.

 

[LiftNDestroy]

The best thing about this video is Johnie talking about the Nano Vapor. They show him "drinking" it with the lid to the shaker cup still sealed haha. Bob - "You look like you're getting bigger as I'm standing here" :rofl: :icon_lol: :toofunny:

 

[ReaperX]

Good 'ol Muscle Tech. Yeah I'd like to see Johnnie go bowling tho. Incredible front deltoid muscle.


On another note: Jay Cutler has been working so hard to win Mr. Olympia prior to 2006. I'm sure he did tons of different things training,diet,drugs to constantly improve his physique.

After trying to many times and coming in second to Ronnie, he allows Muscle-Tech to piggyback his hard-earned first win to 'Aplodan'. Wow. Not persistance or anything else, just purely Aplodan.

 

[LiftNDestroy]

Good 'ol Muscle Tech. Yeah I'd like to see Johnnie go bowling tho. Incredible front deltoid muscle.


On another note: Jay Cutler has been working so hard to win Mr. Olympia prior to 2006. I'm sure he did tons of different things training,diet,drugs to constantly improve his physique.

After trying to many times and coming in second to Ronnie, he allows Muscle-Tech to piggyback his hard-earned first win to 'Aplodan'. Wow. Not persistance or anything else, just purely Aplodan.

Well Jay, Johnnie, and the other MT athletes get paid to endorse said products. Most people know they're not really using them but better off that younger kids buy into that, then start off with gear right away.
I remember before Ronnied signed with BSN, MT had an add on the back of flex that read "Congratulations Ronnie, we salute you 6 time Mr Olympia". Guess they were hoping to grab his attention with that ad. hrmmm :think:

 

[dlew308]

i think i understand why i see people swing weights to lift them, they watch videos like this

 

[ReaperX]

poor form and swinging around weights does have some benefit (overloading the muscle), but I believe the possibility to injury outweighs the potential it has.


Every since I stopped lifting like Johnnie does in that video I have not had a single injury.....hopefully I don't ever again too.

 

[Jayhawkk]

I've seen pros talk about using loose/bad form on occasion. The problem is people willing to make their lifestyle change after watching a video or two or after reading about one 6 week routine. You have to realize that this is only part of the whole formula and treat it as such.

 

[dlew308]

well said
:thumbsup:

I've seen pros talk about using loose/bad form on occasion. The problem is people willing to make their lifestyle change after watching a video or two or after reading about one 6 week routine. You have to realize that this is only part of the whole formula and treat it as such.

 

[whatastud08]

Lol...look at Coleman with his flattop.

 

[xjsynx]

I've seen pros talk about using loose/bad form on occasion. The problem is people willing to make their lifestyle change after watching a video or two or after reading about one 6 week routine. You have to realize that this is only part of the whole formula and treat it as such.

Exactly. the problem is, this video is on BB.com, how many young/newbie lifters are watching it?

I think most experienced lifters know about how and when to include 'cheating' lifts into their routine.

I see bad form everywhere I look in the gym...

 

[ReaperX]

Even if the bad form is used on occasion by the pros, a beginner's website such as bb.com sets a poor example for how to start training.

I specifically can attest to this because this is how I learned to lift. If I had saw a more controlled/better form lifting I might have been able to skip out on all the tendonitis I expierenced. gee.

 

[xjsynx]

Even if the bad form is used on occasion by the pros, a beginner's website such as bb.com sets a poor example for how to start training.

I specifically can attest to this because this is how I learned to lift. If I had saw a more controlled/better form lifting I might have been able to skip out on all the tendonitis I expierenced. gee.

My point exactly.

 

[Jayhawkk]

I learned to lift through muscle mags which do the same exact thing, while telling me that taking andro poppers would give me huge results. The other end of that is a high school kid listening to a coach who is using 20+year old information.

 

[ReaperX]

Ah yes, good 'ol magazines.

I also recall when I read these insane workouts that the pros do and that more sets/reps/time in the gym means bigger muscles.

The reality is 20+ sets, 3 times a week in the gym for bench press does not equate to a big chest unless you are doing massive amounts of drugs.

 

[jrm]

Ask a powerlifter if he cares about form on Heavy rows or DB Overhead press.

JOJ is a powerlifter who happens to also be a bodybuilder.

I don't understand your arguement...powerlifting is all about form.

 

[ReaperX]

I was thinking that statement made no sense too.

 

[Tiberius]

I don't understand your arguement...powerlifting is all about form.

No. In powerlifting THE BIG THREE are all about form. I have yet to meet a powerlifter who gives 2 ****s about their form on heavy rows, DB shoulder press, or any other ancillary exercise.

You want to see JOJ have good form on an exercise, watch him deadlift, squat, or bench. I guarantee he has amazing form on those. Anything else? Probably not.

 

[ReaperX]

I just can't get over how Johnnie looks when he is swinging around the weights. Like I said before, it kinda looks like when you take a fish out of the water and let him flop around on the deck.

 

[pistonpump]

get over it. He spills it out there in the gym, he didnt get that physique from steroids, solely. It takes hard work and some knowledge of the game. He should stick to powerlifting tho, he'll never place that high with the big boys in the IFBB.

 

[whatastud08]

get over it. He spills it out there in the gym, he didnt get that physique from steroids, solely. It takes hard work and some knowledge of the game. He should stick to powerlifting tho, he'll never place that high with the big boys in the IFBB.

Agreed, he is one of the strongest BB'ers out there. He would dominate powerlifting if he were to return...but who knows what he may be "on" right now. Drug testing might cause some problems.

 

[Tiberius]

Agreed, he is one of the strongest BB'ers out there. He would dominate powerlifting if he were to return...but who knows what he may be "on" right now. Drug testing might cause some problems.

Drug testing? What drug testing?

Depends on what fed. There are like 30 different ones. Only a few test and those are only the amateur divisions IIRC.

 

[thesinner]

You have to keep in mind that Johnnie comes from powerlifting roots. His training style reflects that 'old school' powerlifter's mentality; more 'jerky' motions focussed more on getting as much weight up as possible.

 

[pistonpump]

cheating can be a good weapon in a bb'er arsenal imo if done correctly it can build muscle no doubt.

 

[LiftNDestroy]

Agreed, he is one of the strongest BB'ers out there. He would dominate powerlifting if he were to return...but who knows what he may be "on" right now. Drug testing might cause some problems.

Did you not watch the video? Hes "On" Musle Tech's Nano Vapor haha. :toofunny: :rofl:

 

[ReaperX]

He must be on his second shake that he's 'feeling' cuz that bottle he is holding is still closed and full.

 

[Dagron]

His form looks fine to me.

 

[pistonpump]

i watched it again, looks like his form is fine with that sort of weight he is using. Looks like he is still getting the target muscle to do alot of work. They have a new one up, the reigning Mr. O.