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okay, I know this topic is a beaten horse, but I feel like talking about since Im sure there are some others who would too.
The pros are undoubtedly on lots of drugs. some people on the boards say that most of them stay on all year long whereas other pros stay on for a while and then take a few months off. Either way the general consensus is that they are constantly using drugs to be that big and shredded. As professionals, and as anyone with a care for their health would do, these guys have good relationships with their doctors who monitor their health year round. What annoys me is the fact that if you've ever watched ohh lets just say...Jay cutler's "one step closer" DVD, his life seems strict, regimented, serious and hardcore, but there is still a large presence of normalcy. I mean of course it is a DVD which doesn't show everything. But from any youtube clip of him, or anytime ive met him in person, he seemed to be a really laid back down to earth guy. I heard him speek at an expo where he was denying the fact that "the average pro looks better and better by using MORE and MORE drugs." I've even read his book where he admits to drug use,. but really doesnt consider it a major factor.
Now i read, listen and hear all that and then I take a look on these boards and in articles online where its reported that most guys at that level are on upwards of 4-5g\week (dont hold me to an exact quote here as each athlete will differ). They say that they either come off for a while or just come down to maintenance doses for a bit.
If one applies all of the science that is discussed on this board to these individuals situations...then how, for example, do some of them appear to be so "healthy."(cutler talking about having a child after retiring, having a normal wife, markus ruhl getting his wife pregnant, ronnie coleman being able to grow an afro, half the pros still holding onto their hair....etc) I mean i agree that steroids can be used safely by all means, but at these extreme doses and nonstop use for sometimes 10, 15, 20+ years?? its just a hit or miss as far as health risks and side effects that NOT MANY AT ALL of the pros appear to exhibit.....
Alot of us on this board and on other boards look at these guys as motivation. Because they show that it can be done. Yes its a huge commitment and alot of sacrifice but it can be done. Now im not saying that everyone on this board wants to look like Mr. Olympia but i do believe that in todays age, there really isnt much of a place for natural bodybuilding, because after a point the concept of "bodybuilding" isnt even very natural as it is. We all have our goals and a large percentage of will commit to responsibly using drugs to help achieve those goals, but at the same most of us care alot about our health. The last thing we want is some of the side effects that these pros with thier "reported extreme drug use regimes" appear not to show....call me whatever you want but this whole thing is quite frustrating IMO.
The pros are undoubtedly on lots of drugs. some people on the boards say that most of them stay on all year long whereas other pros stay on for a while and then take a few months off. Either way the general consensus is that they are constantly using drugs to be that big and shredded. As professionals, and as anyone with a care for their health would do, these guys have good relationships with their doctors who monitor their health year round. What annoys me is the fact that if you've ever watched ohh lets just say...Jay cutler's "one step closer" DVD, his life seems strict, regimented, serious and hardcore, but there is still a large presence of normalcy. I mean of course it is a DVD which doesn't show everything. But from any youtube clip of him, or anytime ive met him in person, he seemed to be a really laid back down to earth guy. I heard him speek at an expo where he was denying the fact that "the average pro looks better and better by using MORE and MORE drugs." I've even read his book where he admits to drug use,. but really doesnt consider it a major factor.
Now i read, listen and hear all that and then I take a look on these boards and in articles online where its reported that most guys at that level are on upwards of 4-5g\week (dont hold me to an exact quote here as each athlete will differ). They say that they either come off for a while or just come down to maintenance doses for a bit.
If one applies all of the science that is discussed on this board to these individuals situations...then how, for example, do some of them appear to be so "healthy."(cutler talking about having a child after retiring, having a normal wife, markus ruhl getting his wife pregnant, ronnie coleman being able to grow an afro, half the pros still holding onto their hair....etc) I mean i agree that steroids can be used safely by all means, but at these extreme doses and nonstop use for sometimes 10, 15, 20+ years?? its just a hit or miss as far as health risks and side effects that NOT MANY AT ALL of the pros appear to exhibit.....
Alot of us on this board and on other boards look at these guys as motivation. Because they show that it can be done. Yes its a huge commitment and alot of sacrifice but it can be done. Now im not saying that everyone on this board wants to look like Mr. Olympia but i do believe that in todays age, there really isnt much of a place for natural bodybuilding, because after a point the concept of "bodybuilding" isnt even very natural as it is. We all have our goals and a large percentage of will commit to responsibly using drugs to help achieve those goals, but at the same most of us care alot about our health. The last thing we want is some of the side effects that these pros with thier "reported extreme drug use regimes" appear not to show....call me whatever you want but this whole thing is quite frustrating IMO.
