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PumpingIron

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I've been toying with the idea of losing a little bit of size...right now I'm sitting a little over 210lbs @ 5'11 (on a good day) and probably 8 or 9% BF...I also hold weight very well and look bigger than I weigh.

...I've been starting to think, more like question, all of this. The money I spend, the time I put in preparing for the day/week ahead. In the end I'm a decently sized guy, I get the "are you a bodybuilder, do you have any shows coming up, you're arms are huge..." stuff on the regular, but then again I get some girls telling me that I am just too big. I do quite fine for myself, but when I was about 30-40 pounds lighter I did even better (I was in college at the time, so that probably helped). I have always been a pretty boy, more so into personal grooming/style and I used to model a little...and I've been toying with the idea of getting back into that (thats another story).

Also, I know I am not completely healthy. I have a picture perfect diet and training regiment, but I never incorporate cardio. I have done a half marathon in the past and used to bike over 60 miles a day, all the while being active in mountain biking (real mountain biking). I started adding it a few days ago but the cardio is just so damn hard for me right now.

I dropped down to below 190 last year from a lack of diet, too much alcohol, and no training at all (other than trying to pick up running again). If I do do it again I will do it a different way.

I don't really know if I am just too obsessive over looks or what. I mean really, what am I getting out of all this? Shouldn't I just strive to be healthy and not to look like the cover of Muslce and Fitness?

For some reason my head just hasn't been on straight these past few days...so the basic question I wanted to pose after all the BS above is what do you think is the perfect medium, a body that looks more like a ryan reynolds type with more free time and probably a bit healthier. Or less time, holding more weight (looking like Phil Heath), lifting more in the gym, getting the looks, getting the comments...

I am honestly thinking of coming down to like 185 or 190 at like 6 or 7%...

This is probably just a fleeting idea. I think it might stem from the fact that I'm getting a little bit older, friends are getting married, I just moved and don't have quite a core group of friends around here (none of whom train/look the way I do) that I used to...

I just need someone to kick me either way.

Much love,
PI
 
If the motivation is no longer there then you will no doubt lose some size anyway. I don't think it should take up your whole life. ITs important to me but if i want a cheat meal here and there i'll take it. I drink here and there on wkends and sometimes go all out and get paraletic. Its not good for my body but damn i have some good fun.

If your still enjoying yourself then stick with it. If eating/preparing meals, going to the gym everyday feels like a chore then maybe your preferences have changed.

I say if it makes you happy then stick with it. If you don't then tone it down a bit.

But do you really go to the gym just to look good for the ladies? i doubt it. I think you would miss it more then you think, especially when you see an old photo and say damn i was big back then. You will miss getting the looks. Plenty of IFBB pros have hot wives nad gf's. There's always someone out there that wants a ripped bloke. Maybe they are just jealous cos tehy know other girls will stop and look in the street.

I'll swap you for my 240lbs of fat if you want it.......
 
I have no idea what I want to look like, or better said, what weight I want to be. I assume 275+lbs but I've never been that big. I've noticed in years the more weight I put on, the harder it is for me to deal with the summer heat where I live, this will be worse if I get to that weight, the question is, is it worth it. I honestly cant answer that now, but I will achieve that goal and will answer that question then.
 
AM, in all honesty, show me one...cuz these pros really don't have hot wives...

...and I'll never leave the lifestyle, just tone it down a bit.

Honestly, moving to XL shirts is kinda freaking me out a little too.
 
I think its really up to you man and it would be wise to just do what you want to. I know it sounds corny as hell but in all honesty its the truth.

As far as your questions goes about the perfect medium for body type I would go closer to Ryan Reynolds. To me when someone sees me whether it be a bar, beach, or just on the street I would want someone to notice that Im in shape but would label me as an athlete before a body builder. Im not saying body builders are not athletes by any means but my view of an athlete is someone who combines speed, strength, agility, and all the virtues you would find in an elite football player while having a managable amount of size ( so I guess myself being 6'4 230 TOPS at a 7-9 % bf with increasing strength)

Ill be heading to college in a year and to put it in perspective I want to dominant in intramural sports and be known as someone who lifts and trains and isnt just getting big but using it for something. I know I will never be in a show because it doesnt appeal to me, I know that life style takes too much dedication for myself. Also the type of women Im attracted to dont care if I have the "perfect" body so its entirly up to myself as far as training goes.

And out of college in my view it continues. When I have kids and settle down I want to be the father who will be playing in flag football leagues, basketball leagues (and have a massive vertical lol,) and the sunday softball league (Hell I want to just drink some beer with some friends and then burn that **** off with a nice long run lol.)

Thats my view on a perfect medium and its just that my personal view. In your case it is ALL UP TO YOU pump (again corny I know but the truth.) From your post I take it as you have a similiar mentality as myself and love to be active in a variety of ways. I dont want to try and sway anything (not that I really could) but it would be a good choice to steer away from the boodybuilding mentality and gear towards a overall health mentality. Will you still be training your ass off, hell yea, but your body and mindset I think would benefit greatly.

I had a really solid idea what I wanted to get across here but it turned out to be rather difficult. I am going to stop becuase its already getting retty long. Everything I said is my point so people who differ from my view please dont consture it in a negative manor becuase I have mucho respect for eveyone who dedicates themselves this life style no matter what your goals are.

EDIT * I am also not saying you cant be a massive bodybuilder and not enjoy the things I listed (the leagues, coaching, etc.) I just want to traing to excell in physical things like those.)
 
PumpingIron said:
AM, in all honesty, show me one...cuz these pros really don't have hot wives...

...and I'll never leave the lifestyle, just tone it down a bit.

Honestly, moving to XL shirts is kinda freaking me out a little too.
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You think thats bad... I recently made the move to 2XL underwear...that freaked me out. I'm not fat either, I just have a big ass from squatting.
 
you mean the girls on the front of M&F aren't there girlfriends?? joking......i know one of them has Monica Brant (i think thats her name)....might be Gunter.
 
Australian made said:
you mean the girls on the front of M&F aren't there girlfriends?? joking......i know one of them has Monica Brant (i think thats her name)....might be Gunter.
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Gunter is married to the girl trainer from Biggest Loser.. Kim something
 
PI I know where you are coming from for sure.

I see you said you have done 1/2 marathon, biking and mountain biking.

How about train and enter a duathlon BUT keep lifting just not as much. You can eat a little dirty and still keep the fat off.

It might be fun to do some different things and it also will help you with your goal of getting a little lower in body weight AND make you much more cardio healthy.

At first it will be tough but believe me in a few months you will think WOW I can do so much more now and feel even better.

If you do this I would STRONGLY suggest you use mega BCAAs as it REALLY helps you keep the muscle.

I never would have believed it if I hadn't seen it for myself. I am doing 2.5 - 3 hours of biking/swimming/running per day (for triathlons). I was amazed what a difference the BCAAs made. I only have enough time to workout with weights 2 times a MONTH! but am still holding over 200lbs at 6'


CROWLER
 
BCAAs are pretty much at the forefront of my supplementing already. Thanks for the tip though...

...Maybe I'll throw some pics up this afternoon and see what you guys think.
 
I was in pursuit of the "perfect physique" for several years. At first is was a hobby, then it became my Moby ****. The obsession took over for a while and I was way too focused on training, supplements, and research. After a while, the constant eating became too much of a chore and I started not to enjoy the lifestyle. Luckily, I found MMA and have since then realized that a perfect body is one that a perfect body not only should look athletic, but it should also be able to perform like an athlete. I have lost about 30 lbs in the process, but I feel 1000x better now than I did before. Plus, the little things are much easier-clothes, sleep, food bill, etc.
 
I'm actually pretty much where I want to be, had the same rumblings as you PI. You know my line of work, and I used to get forced into lunches for model and acting work when I was smaller. I have stories but I don't want to divulge them on a forum.

I think you know what you want, so follow your intuition my friend. Noone ever faulted a person for wanting to be healthy and happy.

Dysmorphia is a *****, and I'm glad you don't have it. Now, narcissism and other foibles... you're going to have to work on. :D

I support it, as I've been there and have made my decision. I think some of the best advice I have ever got is to just always work on being happy for what you are and do (not in the material sense).
 
I went back to school at 26. Spent the first part of my life fcuking around and getting into trouble. However, I did train and went from 140 to 180. I was feeling good about myself...

Then during school, I had to work full time, so my time to train ceased. I tried to keep up but I felt over-trained.

I graduated in 04 with my BA in Interactive Media Design, and I was pretty happy. Until I looked in the mirror and finally realized I am a fat fcuk. WTF? Last year (Feb 2006) I was 210, and it seemed like I had no muscle to show for it.

I finally got back at it during the spring, and dropped to 185 by summer...

Here I am now at 190. I am trying to hold my weight. Cutting and bulking to get myself where I want to be...What is hard since I had let myself go, any slip up on my diet, and I feel it...
 
Ever seen King Kamali's wife? Smoking hot....

Most bodybuilders hook up with chicks who are likeminded though. Usually fitness/figure, or female bodybuilders.
 
PI... What's your secret; not to ride your "c" but, man what's your diet, training and sup regiment look like. I'd like to be as shredded as you...

Give me some tips bro...
 
So, your priorities are changing. It happens to all of us as we get older. Go smaller if you want. You really just have to decide what matters most to you.

As an aside, I always thought Cutler's wife was pretty damn hot, but I like nurses and chicks with larger noses for some reason, and she seems to fit that profile.

PumpingIron said:
I've been toying with the idea of losing a little bit of size...right now I'm sitting a little over 210lbs @ 5'11 (on a good day) and probably 8 or 9% BF...I also hold weight very well and look bigger than I weigh.

...I've been starting to think, more like question, all of this. The money I spend, the time I put in preparing for the day/week ahead. In the end I'm a decently sized guy, I get the "are you a bodybuilder, do you have any shows coming up, you're arms are huge..." stuff on the regular, but then again I get some girls telling me that I am just too big. I do quite fine for myself, but when I was about 30-40 pounds lighter I did even better (I was in college at the time, so that probably helped). I have always been a pretty boy, more so into personal grooming/style and I used to model a little...and I've been toying with the idea of getting back into that (thats another story).

Also, I know I am not completely healthy. I have a picture perfect diet and training regiment, but I never incorporate cardio. I have done a half marathon in the past and used to bike over 60 miles a day, all the while being active in mountain biking (real mountain biking). I started adding it a few days ago but the cardio is just so damn hard for me right now.

I dropped down to below 190 last year from a lack of diet, too much alcohol, and no training at all (other than trying to pick up running again). If I do do it again I will do it a different way.

I don't really know if I am just too obsessive over looks or what. I mean really, what am I getting out of all this? Shouldn't I just strive to be healthy and not to look like the cover of Muslce and Fitness?

For some reason my head just hasn't been on straight these past few days...so the basic question I wanted to pose after all the BS above is what do you think is the perfect medium, a body that looks more like a ryan reynolds type with more free time and probably a bit healthier. Or less time, holding more weight (looking like Phil Heath), lifting more in the gym, getting the looks, getting the comments...

I am honestly thinking of coming down to like 185 or 190 at like 6 or 7%...

This is probably just a fleeting idea. I think it might stem from the fact that I'm getting a little bit older, friends are getting married, I just moved and don't have quite a core group of friends around here (none of whom train/look the way I do) that I used to...

I just need someone to kick me either way.

Much love,
PI
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I think you look great right now. At least in the Avi, I would go with whatever look makes you happier. In the end the girl thats right for you will be the one that likes you the way you look now.

Besides you get plenty of ego strokes over here, so its not like you never get any:)
 
Im more of pretty boy as well. I, by no means, want to be huge. Im 5,10 and i think 180 will be my sweet spot. My goal is more of an athletic look. Im also trying to get into fire fighting so functionality is key. I wouldnt mind doing a triathalon one day either. I would like to see some pictures but i would say drop a little weight. You could, instead of the typical lift m,w,f cardio t,th do hiit cardio m,w,f and lift t,th. I like cardio so i dont really bored with it.
 
Thanks guys...cappy shoot me an e-mail.

I think my head was a little un-screwed this morning. I had a good workout and am thinking better now. I thoroughly enjoyed it.

I think playing with my diet, taking up some added cardio is the plan for now. I do want to push myself to compete even if it's only once.

So that's the plan, thanks for the words.
 
I think we've all had the same thought at one point or another. I usually carry a bag with food and or protein shakes WHEREVER I go because it's a necessary evil and I don't even want to compete. I just want to be at 235-245 with 7-10% BF at 5'11''.

I think it's cool if you test yourself by doing 1 competition because that will let you know if it is something you want to do long term.
 
i know exactly where you are coming from. In the end it is what you want and are happy with. I would like to experience what it is like to be real Big. I mean my genetics just dont allow it unless I work really hard. I want to be large but not monsterous, see what it is like then ultimately i feel i will come back down but when i do come down i will be shredded as fcuk! thats my plan, i dont think being really big is that practical unless you just cant avoid it naturally. I believe we all have a natural weight that our bodies are most effiecient at and that is where we should stay, I just would like to look the best i can at that weight. Im 6'2 or 6'3 but i think my most comfortable natural weight would be at around 185-190. I just feel if i cut now i wouldnt be too impressive muscle size wise. I want to be very muscular yet long, lean, and vascular. Well i just talked alot about myself and my outlook on it....lol. Hope it helped. For what its worth, you should be happy with what you have now......where you want to go from here is up to you. Why not maintain your weight? Wouldnt you just develop and mature more while keeping your weight the same, if its not too much of a chore.

Btw...Troy Alves' wife looks pretty good.

you just started XL shirts? damn im need XXL already and that is scary!!
 
im a bit scared to get any bigger .....i like to be flexable,and i love cardio........i get more compliments on being cut..than big. it always like........."bro your ripped"...........not dam your traps are thick......ya know

check my transformation pics in the pics section..i got a thread in there...
 
It all comes down to what makes YOU happy, and what makes YOU feel good about yourself. I really wouldn't worry too much about what a handfull of girls think. Do you really want a girl thats shallow enough to think you're "too big" anyway?
 
sp33dkillz said:
It all comes down to what makes YOU happy, and what makes YOU feel good about yourself. I really wouldn't worry too much about what a handfull of girls think. Do you really want a girl thats shallow enough to think you're "too big" anyway?
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:clap2: :thumbsup: nice....reps!!!
 
shallow girls have their place...and the whole thing isn't about girls, it was more so about how I felt about myself at the moment.

...but I've already come to an epiphany here, so thanks guys.
 
thats what im here for to help the slow people lol. naw but i dont think alot of people got that out of that product name but yeah, thats what it was playing off of.
 
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