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    St. Anger


    bought it a few hours ago... have heard dozens of clips, followed the recording of the thing and the band in the studio for the past half year now, gotten as much behind the scenes info as I can etc etc... and I was STILL surprised by the very very raw production on the thing... you likely will be too I'm guessing. but, turn it up... way, way up... and it sounds just fine


    ****ing rocks, I tell you. buy it, buy it now.

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    I'm a huge old school metallica fan, and the other day I finally heard the track St. Anger. I don't know if it was the system I heard it on, but it sucked. Sucked hard. In fact I think it's the worst Metallica song I've ever heard. It sounded like a 14yr old garage band trying to sound like linkin park with the background vocals. I hope the rest of the songs are better
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    Old school Metallica was the ****, I'm talking late 80's up to "And Justice for All". "Ride the Lightning" is still my favorite, also crank "Master of Puppets" once in while. Damn I miss those days.
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    Originally posted by NPursuit
    I'm a huge old school metallica fan, and the other day I finally heard the track St. Anger. I don't know if it was the system I heard it on, but it sucked. Sucked hard. In fact I think it's the worst Metallica song I've ever heard. It sounded like a 14yr old garage band trying to sound like linkin park with the background vocals. I hope the rest of the songs are better
    This is a very accurate comment in my opinion. St. Anger is possibly the worst Metallica song ever, it just sux donkey nutz. Heard one other song off the cd which was ok, but not all that great. I think the black album was their last good album....not a fan of anything after that. The music on the new cd sounds a bit more raw and heavy than the last two albums. James Hetfield just can't sing the way he used to. Old Metallica is the ****.
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    Originally posted by SCORPIO


    This is a very accurate comment in my opinion. St. Anger is possibly the worst Metallica song ever, it just sux donkey nutz. Heard one other song off the cd which was ok, but not all that great. I think the black album was their last good album....not a fan of anything after that. The music on the new cd sounds a bit more raw and heavy than the last two albums. James Hetfield just can't sing the way he used to. Old Metallica is the ****.
     

    I know right!  When I heard it was going to be more raw and heavy.  I didn't think it meant it was going to sound like sh*t.  It sounds like it was produced in a garage.  What's with the background vocals?  Sounds like a piss poor attempt at a rock/rap sound.

     

    It's a sad time for the best metal/rock band of all time.  Oh well I still rock Ride the Ligtning and Master of Puppets every workout.
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    Haven't got the album yet (will today), but I've been listening to the single (St. Anger). Have to say I hated it at first, but it's growing on me real quick, except the ****ty background vocal part by their new bassist.
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    I really didn't like it too much. I would listen to it over hiphop and rap, but if I had my choice I would listen to their older material or a different band.
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    sounds like they spent 500 bucks recording it...
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    yea, i hope they dont play these new songs at Summer Sanitarium this July. ill be pretty disappointed if they do.


    someone told me last night at a party that it was only going for $10?

    it might be worth buying if its true just to add to my Metallica collection.
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    someone told me last night at a party that it was only going for $10?


    its $9.99 at Breast Buy, I believe...

    and I, for one, think the new CD kicks ass...
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    Originally posted by Anxed
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    its $9.99 at Breast Buy, I believe...

    and I, for one, think the new CD kicks ass...
    what the hell is Breast Buy? isn't that like a discount place for boob jobs?

    heh, thanx.
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    I kinda like the mix. Sounds like a garage band...reminds me of the early stuff...certainly not as hard as their first three albums, but I don't much care for anything they've put out after Master. Not that I'm necessarily a hard-core metal guy...Kate Bush is my all time favorite artist and I just picked up Barry Manilow's Best of....just had to have "Copacabana", but when I want some metal I put in "Ride the Lightening", the Misfits' "Walk Among US", Motorhead's "Ace of Spades" , Entombed's "Wolverine Blues" or Slayer's "Reign in Blood"---best hard metal album ever!
    Remember how cool Metallica used to be? "We'll never do videos", every song was at least 6 minutes long. Then, they did the video for One..."it's a video on our terms"...then all the radio friendly crap that followed...not to mention their bitching about Napster...I'm an intellectual property attorney (odonnell-law.net) so I understand copyright concerns a little better than most...but it's not wise to try to make a public plea when you're extremely rich...especially when your trying to maintain some street-cred.
    In general, I think they started their downward spiral once they ran out of Mustaine licks.


    that's my $.02
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    Originally posted by Hal
    In general, I think they started their downward spiral once they ran out of Mustaine licks.
    im chomping at the bit and my palms are getting wet, sweating bullets.....................!! !

    haha, sorry couldn't help myself.
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    Originally posted by Jergo


    what the hell is Breast Buy? isn't that like a discount place for boob jobs?

    heh, thanx.
     

    LOL somebody had titties on the brain!
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    i think they spent more time on screaming then on quality of there sound...most songs sound the same and lars is a little too double bass drum friendly...i do like the lyrics, if you know the history of metallica and the **** james hetfield's been through, you'll understand the lyrics and what he's screaming about...but im only a musician, what do i know?
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    yea, i know what u mean. all their songs have a common point to them. its kinda like their all linked somehow.

    i wish we could send them back to the fountain of youth.

    btw, did u hear what Jason Newstead said a little while ago? he said that he wants Metallica to tour with his "new" band so he can kick their a$$es.

    ROFLMAO!!!! ok, ok buddy thats enough. u can sit down now.
    what a friggin d*ickwad!!!

    besides his contributions to And Justice For All........, id spit in that dudes face for sayin some $hit like that. as if he was the end all be all of Metallica. pfff......gimme a break.

    EDIT: oh yea, sorry for the harsh language. viewer's discretion is advised.
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    i did notice a lot more bass...i heard bob rock's playing on the cd because the new guy is too recent or something
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    yeah, it's bob
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    i hate bob

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    ok, after I finally bought it:

    like Frantic and St. Anger, the rest mean nothing to me so far (blah)

    the whole "garage band" sound isn't working for me, I was pissed when I heard the quality. It may be "novel" and "neat" for them, I think it just sounds like ****

    It took me a few months to like the black album at first too though,s o we'll see I guess
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    kinda funny weave, those are the two I don't really care for

    something else I find odd: on my big home surround stereo, sounds like ****... on my pc speakers, sounds awesome, and in my car, sounds awesome. only time I really listen to anything other than ambient background music though is in the car.
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    yeah the quality is ****, although they were obviously going for that, who knows why

    In my car it sounds the worst, of course that is my best stereo setup also
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    Originally posted by jweave23
    yeah the quality is ****, although they were obviously going for that, who knows why
    well, I think it probably has something to do with their attitude, and the attitudes that the "metallica sucks" crowd have had since the black album... people bitched and moaned on and on and on about the overproduced slow glossy Load stuff, so what happens? they put out some very off the cuff sounding, barely produced at all jam session sounding stuff... I think they must get a kick out of it. tell you what though, if they stick to the setlists they've been playing recently for the summer tour here in the states, folks will be in for a treat. it's been almost exclusively stuff from lightning, puppets, and justice with a few of the new tunes and one or two from kill em all.
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    Now, Justice was poorly produced...and the songs sucked.
    St. Anger has good songs (heavist since Master, IMO, but...too many 'melodic interludes' for my taste) and has a really cheap-sounding mix. I kinda like the way it reminds me of picking up mid-late 80's "crossover" metal albums.
    They became way too pop. St Anger might not be their best, but it's good to know that they can still thrash.
    I think their next album will settle whom is their fan base. It may be poseurs that think they're hardcore or it may be thrashers. I'll reserve my final decision until then (I tentatively made my decision a few albums ago...but the new one made me rethink a bit).
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    hey biggs, are u talkin about the summer sanitarium sets? if so, kick a$$!!

    i dont think the "garage" sound would be so bad if it wasnt for those background lyrics.

    IMO they just dont go together, esp when the the songs slows down, speeds up, changes, etc.

    i wish they would just stick to their "natural" lyric tones, and play sort of a speed metal. but, since they are older the speed metal wouldnt prolly work as well. but then, they should just stick to that "garage" sound but make it less grungy and cut out those stupid bkgd. lyrics.

    i guess its easier said than done-- eventhough its still hard to explain.
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    yeah bro... here, for example, is what they have played recently:


    Location: Berlin, Germany
    Date: Jun 7, 2003
    Venue: Wuhlheide
    Map: n/a
    Outlook Reminder: n/a
    Other Artists:
    Setlist: Battery
    Master Of Puppets
    Ride The Lightning
    Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
    For Whom The Bell Tolls
    Frantic
    The Thing That Should Not Be
    St. Anger
    No Remorse
    Seek and Destroy
    Fight Fire With Fire
    ------
    Harvester Of Sorrow
    Nothing Else Matters
    Blackened
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    Sad But True
    Enter Sandman
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    Location: San Francisco, CA
    Date: May 18, 2003
    Venue: The Fillmore
    Map: Click Here
    Outlook Reminder: n/a
    Other Artists: CKY
    Setlist: Hit the Lights
    The Four Horsemen
    Harvester of Sorrow
    Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
    Frantic
    Sad But True
    Phantom Lord
    Leper Messiah
    No Remorse
    Fade to Black
    Master of Puppets
    Damage Inc.
    Ride the Lightning
    For Whom the Bell Tolls
    Blackened
    Last Caress
    Am I Evil?
    Motorbreath

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    Location: San Francisco, CA
    Date: May 19, 2003
    Venue: The Fillmore
    Map: n/a
    Outlook Reminder: n/a
    Other Artists: Systematic
    Setlist: Blackened
    No Remorse
    Ride the Lightning
    Welcome Home (Sanitarium)
    The Thing That Should Not Be
    Frantic
    Creeping Death
    Whiplash
    Leper Messiah
    Master of Puppets
    One
    Battery
    Harvester of Sorrow
    Seek and Destroy
    Hit the Lights
    So What
    Breadfan
    Damage, Inc.
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    etc etc.. they all look like that... and I'm noticing a peculiar absence of Load/Reload
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    i heard that they were going for the garage sound to make them seem bad. To prove that they are bad ass they figured they'd put out a ****ty album so everyone would be pissed. Then they're going to put out another album in the future that will put them back in the spotlight. Def Leppard did it, coming back with Pour Some Sugar on Me. It's all politics and all about the money. It's a business that Metallica is going to succeed in, only because they don't know how to fail.
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    biggs, thanx, thats some sweet sheeit. they need to just quit makin copies of load, re-load, and ban it--at least in the states. and act like it never happened.

    "Load, re-load, what are u talkin about?"


    motley, heh, u must have heard that from my brain. for real tho i was just thinkin of thats why they did it. but couldn't come up with an explanation as to why.

    plus, a lot of younger people will probably buy it because they dont really know what they used to sound like, and they wanna hear some metal. esp when u have people marketing it as the next revelation at record stores.

    if Metallica just wants to make people happy and get some street respect, i think they should just sell their older albums for $6.99
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    Originally posted by Hal
    Now, Justice was poorly produced...and the songs sucked.
    blasphemy, damn you Hal, damn you to hell!!!
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    Originally posted by motleybreu
    It's a business that Metallica is going to succeed in
    well, if you're speaking from a business perspective, ya don't sell 90 million albums worldwide over 20 yrs and FAIL now do ya

    interestingly, the year that Newsted left and James went into rehab (read: the year they didn't put out an album, tour, or get anything done at all) they STILL made 20 million dollars... not bad.
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    I also read that Newsted wants to go on tour with Metallica so he can prove that he can kick there asses. Now he's a decent bassist, but no way can any of his songs beat Metallica. It's just not possible. If Cliff Burton wasn't killed, who knows what Metallica would be today...
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    Originally posted by Hal
    Now, Justice was poorly produced...and the songs sucked.
    Well... I agree with the ****ty production part, you can't hear **** for Newstead's bass work, but other than that Justice is a damn good album.

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