[Mulletsoldier]

Just checking if we had any heads on AM. I know Ubi and Swole210 are about it, by underground hip hop I mean:

Atmosphere
Brother Ali
Eyedea
J-Live
Reef the Lost Cauze
Aesop Rock
Cage
Cannibal Ox

etc., etc.,

[jmh80]

Does Jurassic 5 count? I mean - they aren't well known at all.

I listen to mostly hip hop - it sucks these days. How Ballin' is a top song - I'll never know.

[billm311]

i like the philly guys:

jedi mind tricks
outer space

the roots, the are definately more popular, but very little of their stuff gets played. Their older albums are excellent, but rarely played.

[phillyb]

Besides all the artists listed above, I like the following:

RJD2
Ugly Duckling
Soul Position
Heiruspecs
Illogic
Hilltop Hoods
Gym Class Heroes
Talib Kwali
Murs
Mars Ill
Common
Noah23

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head

[Mulletsoldier]

Besides all the artists listed above, I like the following:

RJD2
Ugly Duckling
Soul Position
Heiruspecs
Illogic
Hilltop Hoods
Gym Class Heroes
Talib Kwali
Murs
Mars Ill
Common
Noah23

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head

Yeah, RJD2 is an amazing producer. Have you ever heard of a Chicago artist named Diverse? Most of his tracks are produced by RJ and they are amazing. Illogic has a song called Favourite Things which is one of my top five songs. All around good artists, it's hard to remember them all sometimes...lol

[protomike]

count me in too. big fan of underground hip hop.

[Alexander]

I'll have to look into some of these groups. I'm a big 90's hip hop fan. O.C., Royal Flush, Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu, AZ, Bone, WC and Mack10, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Gangstarr, MOP, etc etc. Damn the 90's was the shiot.

[Mulletsoldier]

I'll have to look into some of these groups. I'm a big 90's hip hop fan. O.C., Royal Flush, Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu, AZ, Bone, WC and Mack10, Outkast, Goodie Mob, Gangstarr, MOP, etc etc. Damn the 90's was the shiot.

Yeah, alot of the artists I like came from NJ during that early 90's period. Artists like the Artifacts for example. If you like that really eastern feel hip-hop then you'd really like alot of the examples given Alexander.

Can't forget about the Souls of Mischief either, one of the sickest hip hop groups ever.

[Ubiquitous]

Can't forget about the Souls of Mischief either, one of the sickest hip hop groups ever.

Yup..Hieroglyphics as a whole. Souls, Casual, Del, Pep Love.. all them NorCal boys.

[Jayhawkk]

Tech N9ne

[Alexander]

Yeah, alot of the artists I like came from NJ during that early 90's period. Artists like the Artifacts for example. If you like that really eastern feel hip-hop then you'd really like alot of the examples given Alexander.

Can't forget about the Souls of Mischief either, one of the sickest hip hop groups ever.

Damn I forgot Souls of Mischief existed, thanks for the reminder. I'm definitely gonna check out some of the artists you listed above.

[Alexander]

Just listened to 93 til infinity, felt like I was back in middle school. Nice thread.

[phillyb]

Tech N9ne

Definitely some good stuff there Jay. His latest cd Everready is sick.

[TheCSWFighter]

army of pharoahs
bus driver
mystikal manik
Serum

[PumpingIron]

Mos Def, Talib, J5, Dialated Peoples...

...a new guy I've been listening a bit to is Lupe Fiasco

[brass monkey]

Madlib, Lord Quas, DJ-Rels, Littel Brother, Danger Mouse, Black Mlik, Lady Soverign, and some old cats like large professor, J-Dilla. Lupe and the Neptunes have a nice sound Kick, Push is my sons Fav. That just made me feel old.

[Jayhawkk]

I don't like Lady S. She seems like a ****ed up female version of Eminem. Didn't really care for Danger Mouse too much either but I think i'm in the minority on that one. He seemed to have a nice following.

[Mulletsoldier]

Madlib, Lord Quas, DJ-Rels, Littel Brother, Danger Mouse, Black Mlik, Lady Soverign, and some old cats like large professor, J-Dilla. Lupe and the Neptunes have a nice sound Kick, Push is my sons Fav. That just made me feel old.

Yeah, I gotta call you on that as well, I cannot stand Lady S. She represents most of the things I am against in Hip Hop. Madlib and LQ are pretty tight though.

[brass monkey]

she brings a different sound and i like her accent and theres not many females out there throwing down. what do you hate about her.

[Jayhawkk]

Her lyrics seem pretty much thrown together without any real form other than just being vulger and rude. If I just want to listento something that sounds good there are better and if I want to listen to something with meaning...there are better

[brass monkey]

yeah i can see how comes off as just a rude bit@#h, Jay danger mouse is the man he does all his production with a old ass computer and a $190 program and he made ce-lo famous. I do not get the whole mask thing

[Rodja]

The only UG hip-hop that I listen to is Immortal Technique. He has some of the craziest lyrics and some awesome beats. I really get into his stuff b/c he has a political and social message within his lyrics.

[Mulletsoldier]

Yeah, I like more of a message, social undertone, or emotional current in my Hip Hop; consequently, I think that is what mainly seperates mainstream and underground hip hop. I think Lady S is no different than 99% of other mainstream rappers, hence, I don't like her.

[rampage jackson]

Tech N9ne

LOL...beat me to it. He's from my hometown...

[rampage jackson]

Anyone know who put out the songs:

Secret Wars 1 & 2 (about comic books)

&

Echo Leader

I know it was the same guy...

Also...is Black Rob still considered underground?

[Supa Freek 420]

Yeah, I can't really stand much of the stuff that comes out today. I still pine for the sounds of the late 80's to mid-90's.

Rakim was supposed to do an album with Dre. That would have been sick.
The whole Hiero crew
Pharcyde
Zion-I
Jedi Mind Tricks
Black Moon, Boot Camp, Smif & Wessun (Duck Down)
The Frontline

[Alexander]

Yeah, I can't really stand much of the stuff that comes out today. I still pine for the sounds of the late 80's to mid-90's.

Rakim was supposed to do an album with Dre. That would have been sick.
The whole Hiero crew
Pharcyde
Zion-I
Jedi Mind Tricks
Black Moon, Boot Camp, Smif & Wessun (Duck Down)
The Frontline

I like your taste. Rakim is probably the GOAT. Pharcyde was great, so creative. I love all of Boot Camp, don't forget Heltah Skeltah. If I'm not mistaken Boot Camp Clik is comprised of Black Moon, SmifnWessun(Cocoa Brovaz), Heltah Skeltah, Starang Wonda. Duck Down is there clothing line and another name they use for themselves. I love hip hop from all around but the 90's New York hip hop has my heart.

[Mulletsoldier]

Anyone know who put out the songs:

Secret Wars 1 & 2 (about comic books)

&

Echo Leader

I know it was the same guy...

Also...is Black Rob still considered underground?

That was the Last Emperor, he did Comic Book characters battling famours rappers.

[brass monkey]

The hip hop world is full of studio gangsters. Im hopeing the whole bling bling era disapears soon. Before hip hop does die.

[Mulletsoldier]

I don't think that true Hip Hop is in any real danger at the moment. Gift of Gab, Eyedea, Sage Francis, and Atmosphere (maybe more I cannot remember) were all signed to Epitaph at one point, though Eyedea has now formed a punk band and Gift of Gab is no longer on the label. And since, they have picked up Dangerdoom.

I do know what you are saying though. Mainstream rap continues to perpetuate racial stereotypes for the purpose of capital gain, thereby shining a negative light on one of the most intricate and complicated Musical art forms.