superman returns

[Beelzebub]

how could anyone NOT like this movie? it's badass. not giving any spoilers away, i encourage everyone else to do the same. there are some pretty cool things that reveal themselves that i'm glad i didn't have prior knowledge of. beez and wifey give it two thumbs up.

[PVSkyHigh]

I thought it sucked, I am a huge superman fan, but a couple things in the movie were pretty cool concepts, (not spoling anything) but over all the movie was very slow and boring. I wanted to fall asleep many a time. The actor did a good job though, he totally reminded my of Chistopher Reeves, and IMO, CR is Superman.

[Beelzebub]

he played an excellent superman IMO. lex luthor was much better in this by kevin spacey. the christopher reeves version made lex look like a f'ing doofus. i was far from falling asleep at any point. huge superman fan as well and i couldn't wait for it to come out. didn't leave much room for a sequel though, but neither did the others.

[OCCFan023]

Ill be seeing it on Friday and cant wait, big superman/superhero movie fan

[PVSkyHigh]

he played an excellent superman IMO. lex luthor was much better in this by kevin spacey. the christopher reeves version made lex look like a f'ing doofus. i was far from falling asleep at any point. huge superman fan as well and i couldn't wait for it to come out. didn't leave much room for a sequel though, but neither did the others.

I totally agree on Lex Luthor looking like a bumbling idiot when played by Marlon Brando. The new lex was just plain evil. You are right about the sequel bit too, with the older ones, each movie seemed like it had absolutely nothing to do with the movie preceded it.

[WhatsaRoid?]

I totally agree on Lex Luthor looking like a bumbling idiot when played by Marlon Brando. The new lex was just plain evil. You are right about the sequel bit too, with the older ones, each movie seemed like it had absolutely nothing to do with the movie preceded it.

I was thinging the samething, I hate when movies are like this. You ever watch a movie and it doesn't go with all the others before it?

Great movie even tho it started off so slow...I liked the action in this one more so then the others. But superman is getting old all the same crap over and over at lest throw something new in the mix. Like him with a kid or something.

[Mulletsoldier]

There was one reason this movie completely dissapointed me, and that was how you were pummeled with the religous analogy of Superman being Jesus. The plotline, dialogue, even some of the cinematography absolutely beat me over the head with the fact Superman is supposed to be Jesus, by the end of the movie I actually felt exhausted with it.

[Jayhawkk]

Marlon Brando was Jor el the dad and Gene Hackman was Lex

[bioman]

Liked it a lot. Brian Singer pumped some life back into the Superman genre..and he did it well.

[karategirl]

I saw it at the IMAX, well worth it. Some of the 3D stufff was cool.

[Jayhawkk]

Love that avi Karate girl. How's the training coming along?


How's that for a hijack? :P

[karategirl]

Cool - lets hijack


Training is going great thanks for asking.
Fighting much stronger than before and added a couple of pounds of muscle.

KG

[Jayhawkk]

Ya, your back is really showing it. Good to hear everything is going well.

[karategirl]

Thanks - my front's not so bad either



KG

[Jayhawkk]

I'll have to hold judgement until...

[PVSkyHigh]

Marlon Brando was Jor el the dad and Gene Hackman was Lex

I knew it didni't feel right. It was on the tip of my tongue but I was short for time. Thanks for the correction.

[CDB]

I thought it was pretty damn good overall, and I was going into it expecting to be disappointed. It was a bit longish, I think for most people though that'll come out on a second viewing kind of like the recent King Kong. Overall the effects were incredible, the actors were all good though I didn't quite buy the actress who played Lois. I was never a fan of Margot Kidder either though. This movie kind of reminds me of Batman Begins. I loved the latter, but it didn't quite fit in with the existing movies. I think Superman has more room to expand though. Solid three out of four stars I'd say.

[WhatsaRoid?]

Beelzebub...Wow nice glowing name..how much dit that cost ya?

[Beelzebub]

There was one reason this movie completely dissapointed me, and that was how you were pummeled with the religous analogy of Superman being Jesus. The plotline, dialogue, even some of the cinematography absolutely beat me over the head with the fact Superman is supposed to be Jesus, by the end of the movie I actually felt exhausted with it.

the symbolism isn't new, just more noticeable now.

from: UAHC - Reform Judaism Magazine

Superman actualized the adolescent power fantasies of its creators--two Jewish Depression kids craving a muscle-bound redeemer to liberate them from the social and economic impoverishment of their lives. And, as Michael Chabon (author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning novel The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, about two Siegel and Shuster-style cartoonists) notes, there's a parallel between Kavalier and Clay's superhero creations and the Golem--the legendary creature magically conceived by the rabbi of medieval Prague to defend the community from an invasion by its antisemitic enemies. Cartoonist, writer, and comic-book historian Will Eisner (creator of The Spirit) also views Superman as a mythic descendant of the Golem and thus a link in the chain of Jewish tradition. "[Jews needed] a hero who could protect us against an almost invincible force," Eisner says. "So [Siegel and Shuster] created an invincible hero."

The Superman narrative is also rich in Jewish symbolism. He is a child survivor named Kal-El (in Hebrew, "All that is God") from the planet Krypton, whose population, a race of brilliant scientists, is decimated. His parents send him to Earth in a tiny rocket ship, reminiscent of how baby Moses survived Pharaoh's decree to kill all Jewish newborn sons. In the context of the 1930s, the story also reflects the saga of the Kindertransports--the evacuation to safety of hundreds of Jewish children, without their parents, from Austria, Germany, Poland, and Czechoslovakia to Great Britain.

[bioman]

He's a classic savior-type hero..the archetype really. If one wishes to draw parallels to Jesus they can, but I really didn't feel that was the over riding theme. He's invincible but is limited in his abilities to save people based on how fast he can get to them. This causes him grief for even though he has the right intentions, he is not a god and limited in what he can do for men. I rather like the theme that an advanced alien has "faith" in us and that faith is not contingent upon us believing in him. In the end, he just does what he does with pizazz.