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italionstallion

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I have had a really, really hard time getting to sleep the last couple weeks. I have been finally passing out around 4 and waking up around 8:30 and doing that over and over. But on weekends I get to sleep until about 12:00 or so. Anyway, I have no idea why I cant fall asleep. Sometimes I am dead tired and go to bed around 11:00, but I just lay there and lay there for hours.

I dont know what to do about this. I use melatonin on occasion, (once a week) but dont want to use that every night.

Has anyone gone through this and figured out some way to get passed it?
 
italionstallion said:
I have had a really, really hard time getting to sleep the last couple weeks. I have been finally passing out around 4 and waking up around 8:30 and doing that over and over. But on weekends I get to sleep until about 12:00 or so. Anyway, I have no idea why I cant fall asleep. Sometimes I am dead tired and go to bed around 11:00, but I just lay there and lay there for hours.

I dont know what to do about this. I use melatonin on occasion, (once a week) but dont want to use that every night.

Has anyone gone through this and figured out some way to get passed it?
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OK here is some decent advice. Drink milk before bed preferably Warm, both will release natural sleep hormones, also setting a routine before bed helps. Like for instance warming up milk then moving and arranging you shoes briefly then going straight to bed. in no time you'll have a cycle going.
 
Get yourself a book that provides little interest to you, read it in bed and see if it tires you out. I say a book of little interet because you don't want to get into the reading and be up all night because you don't want to put it down.

Sometimes writing helps as well, I find just about any mental exercise to be helpful.
 
flytrapcan said:
Get yourself a book that provides little interest to you, read it in bed and see if it tires you out. I say a book of little interet because you don't want to get into the reading and be up all night because you don't want to put it down.

Sometimes writing helps as well, I find just about any mental exercise to be helpful.
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Thanks shadow, I remember my mom telling me about the milk thing a long time ago, but I dont really like milk. Oh well, i will definitely give it a try.

Flytrapcan, I actually tried that last night. Right around 12:30 i was tired and started reading a ****ty book but got through 20 pages and didn't feel any better.

Its weird, all day I feel fine, but the moment I lay down I can feel my heart start to race. It feels like its going at 160 bpm and I can feel the 'beats' in various parts of my body.

Thanks for the help guys, I will try both tonight, but tonight i will read a ****ty book that i have already read.
 
A friend of mine had trouble for years to get a proper nights sleep and in the end it was discovered that his anxiety over not sleeping was preventing his sleeping.
 
Try a sleep med.

I use them from time to time. (trazodone)

Or I just stay up and start *what are you doing up all night* threads on various message boards.

Fun…….

Stop thinking so much.
 
What are you eating for your last meal before bed?
When is your last caffeine intake of the day?

Yes its pretty gay, but yoga and breathing excercises before bed can really help get the body relaxed and ready for sleep.
 
PGH by Universal Kits or REM by UPS Labs, both worked VERY nicely for me, and no I actually don't know anyone from those companies lol


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I'm with James. I've been on trazodone for years. Always had bad sleep problems, both getting there and staying there. The trazodone is non-addictive (really, it is!), and is fine for long-term use. You also won't need to continue increasing the dose like you do with the new sleep meds out there.
 
I am the same way. I will be tired all day, but when it's time to go to bed I just lay there wide awake. I started using REM R3G from USP Labs and it definately helps. Once in a while even that doesn't help. It also helps me stay asleep and if I do get up I am able to fall right back to sleep.
 
Phenibut helps too, but can only be done about once per week or you will develope an addiction. If I have a night when even the trazodone doesn't work, I'll do the phenibut for the following night. I can sleep 10-12 hours after a good dose of that stuff, so it helps to make up for the sleep lost the night before.
 
Wow, thanks for all the help. I will definitely look into getting REM by USP, but I just went to the Dr. because I felt like complete **** today (body aches, sore throat, stuffy nose, on top of the couple hours of sleep), and it turns out I have a 101.3 temp and strep throat. The thing is, I had this sleeping problem long before I felt sick, but either way I'm gonna take my antibiotic for a week, and if my sleep problem doesnt clear up after that, i will definitely be getting some REM.

About the questions asked:

I really try to stay away from caffeine all together becuase I build up a massive tolerance very quickly, so I try to take it sparingly so when I do take it I can "feel" it. I would say I havent had any caffeine past 3:00 for quite a while.

My last meal of the day is usually a little bit of PB, some cottage cheese, ans sometimes some yogurt.

If all of the above still doesnt help, I will be going back to the Doc to try to get some sleep Meds.

Flytrapcan- I actually think about that at night. All these thoughts about not being able to sleep and what I need to do the following day start going through my head. I lay there and I'm just like, I need to go to sleep....I need to go to sleep....then i start thinking about how I am thinking too much about sleeping, then i start thinking about what it would be like if i stopped thinking, its just an endless stream of thoughts that keep snowballing on the thought I just had.

Thanks again for all the help, I appreciate it.
 
I was just wondering if you had any trigger foods, but they all seem fine to me.
Sometimes a high fat meal before bed causes the digestive system to keep you awake.
Oh and cheese.
Cheese before bed for me is sure to keep me counting sheep.
Hope you get better soon.
 
italionstallion said:
I actually think about that at night. All these thoughts about not being able to sleep and what I need to do the following day start going through my head. I lay there and I'm just like, I need to go to sleep....I need to go to sleep....then i start thinking about how I am thinking too much about sleeping, then i start thinking about what it would be like if i stopped thinking, its just an endless stream of thoughts that keep snowballing on the thought I just had.
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Exactly my problem too! Then you start clock watching and calculating how much sleep you could still get if you just could go to bed. The REM should really help w/ this. I take it about an hour before I am ready to go to bed. Also taking it on an empty stomach helps it's effectiveness.
 
Very impressed, all these responses and no one suggested "rubbing one out"...or if you have a lady friend, the real thing works great.

I have a terrible sleep problem too, and will be taking the advice of the above posts.

The best sleep I ever got for a period of time was when I was bulking and ate 1/2 pound of ground turkey right before bed.

Also you may want to try Benadryl. That works as well.
 
refrieddreams said:
Very impressed, all these responses and no one suggested "rubbing one out"...or if you have a lady friend, the real thing works great.

I have a terrible sleep problem too, and will be taking the advice of the above posts.

The best sleep I ever got for a period of time was when I was bulking and ate 1/2 pound of ground turkey right before bed.

Also you may want to try Benadryl. That works as well.
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Haha, well, I have tried that already :hammer:

I actually do use benadryl on occasion. That is actually probably the most common thing I use, and I use that 2-3 times a week. It seems to help sometimes, but other times I dont notice. And I have thought if it really does work those times and dosent the others, or if I would have fallen asleep anyway without the Benadryl (lol, hopefully that makes a little bit of sense).

Thanks for the good wishes Karate Girl.
 
refrieddreams said:
Very impressed, all these responses and no one suggested "rubbing one out"...or if you have a lady friend, the real thing works great.
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LOL...With 1 gram of test per week, I'm already rubbing out two or three per day, AND chasing after my wife!!
 
Oh ya I forgot if you have electronics, the longer you havent touched one before bed the bette, I mean things like computers and tvs, when you use them it stimulates your brain making it harder to go into sleep mode.

A really good book I read on sleep was Sleep Thieves by Dr. Stanley Coren. Check it out it is a really good book and very imformatiove and tells some great stories and smashes some myths.
 
Stress is a very common reason for loss of sleep. Work or life changes that cause a lot of disorder to your normal routines can too..Well that goes along with stress but :)
 
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