Is Hollywood Juiced?
- 05-16-2006, 04:21 PM
Is Hollywood Juiced?
I have often watched TV or Movies and observed the latest action heroes and other actors (male and female) alike that have BUFFED up as they like to call it. Faces like Will Smith, Kurt Russell, Sly, Tom Cruise, and so on. The list could be unbelievable I am sure. How many of you think they are juice induced. My vote for the land of plastic and make believe is a resounding "YES" I am sure it's all legal too.
- 05-16-2006, 04:24 PM
Yes and no. I would lean to say yes because I have observed some of these stars undergo complete body composition changes, not just building mass, from one movie to the next. However, I would say no because if they are preparing for a part in which they have to be muscular, that is their one and only occupation at that point. They have the very best trainers, nutritionalists, dieticians and the like on call, and unlike the rest of us, can be 100% focused on nothing else but achieving their desired physique. I'm sure many more of us would be at our peak physique if we had nothing else to do besides focus on eating/lifting/sleeping. Unfortunately that annoying thing called life comes into play with us.
- 05-16-2006, 04:27 PM
I agree--these actors must be taking SOME sorts of anabolic substances....
Although he isn't exactly huge in Fight Club, I don't think Brad Pitt could achieve that level of fitness without some sort of chemical assistance. I could be wrong, though.
05-16-2006, 04:43 PM
Your logic has some validity but I would more so believe that if they had an ideal physical condition then they would already be there or trying as most of us are. They have a job just like others, yes they can live more lavishly but does this make it harder perhaps? We all know how much dedication you can have for your job vs personal goals and desires. Albeit I have met many that lived for the job. Most of them the job kills them. Its about will, desire and determination to conquer ones own body, not for a role. Most of us strive for a way of life and making our best attempt at it. Most human beings do, no matter what their profession. I see them driven by different means for the quick goals. And we know most of us will take the easy way if we can, its the nature of the beast. I suppose its also just as obvious with the ones that do take care of themselves or at least try to live a fit lifestyle. Just wanting to point out the obvious with some. Drastic and sudden changes are easiest to recognize. I can remember when Sly and Brad Pitt were just scrawny fellas. They both have accomplished and maintained certain levels of fitness. Did they get a boost along the way perhaps? I darn sure know at my age it isn't as easy to gain or keep as you age. In that case I would vote YES again with both counts. Somewhere in their training they visited the grey areas is what I guess I am saying.
05-16-2006, 04:45 PM
I think GH is probably real popular among actors/actresse. Most arent looking to get super huge, so I dont think many are using AAS. All of them pretty much just wanna get real toned and ripped, so I think that GH is probably the most popular. And of course, money is not object with them.
Plus alot of them have personal everything: chefs, trainers, etc.
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
Yeah, but I think you may have missed the point of my post. Their job IS to get big at that particular moment if the role calls for it. In some cases they have 3-6 months to do NOTHING BUT prepare to be in the best physical condition they possibly can. Can you imagine you much better your physique would be if you had that much time to do nothing else but train, all the while being aided by top-quality trainers, dieticians, and nutritionalists watching every rep, and every calorie you put into your body? I'm not saying they don't juice, but you have to take into account the added advantage of lifting/eating/resting being your only job at a given time.Originally Posted by Smoky
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
I would probably say yes to using supplements that have to be prescribed. Not necessarily AAS though.
05-16-2006, 04:53 PM
I def think Sly was on Deca, and other anabolics, while others were not, as I look at WIll SMith and as the Frsh Prince He always defined just not as big, he then enlisted an Nutritionist for ALI and BAM he was jacked. One thing I know is that they do not have life issues to intefere with their fitness roles as ACTING IS THEIR JOB. so if they need to take 6 weeks to be ready for a part guess who is training and is ready for the 20 mill part at the end of the 6 weeks.
05-16-2006, 05:28 PM
I understand, just dont think it is the norm. I would imagine some of the elite actors may have that kind of schedule ability but not all. They also have to study lines and what ever else they do to prepare as well. Most of them live life to excess as well. So busy they are touring their homes/boats/cars/ blah blah blah. I will agree there probably are some that do it right. But my understanding of the human animal makes me say yes not good logic. For most folks to find something acceptable in their lifestyle is by mental justification. They have the means, the connections, and the money. Mix that with common human traits. Man has a history of corrupting and preverting everything. And condeming everything he doesn't understand or have sufficient knowledge of.Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier
05-16-2006, 05:40 PM
OK here is an old one. Ricardo Montlebon (sp) in the Wrath of Kahn. Were those pec implants he was sporting or what? He was no spring chicken when it was filmed.
05-16-2006, 07:24 PM
look for a picture of brad pitt in fight club on the internet put it next to a ton of natural guys i know .. brad pitts skinny as f*ck in that movie .. you can easily do that naturally with his geneticsOriginally Posted by heftylefty58
05-16-2006, 07:36 PM
I remember years ago thinking that Brad Pitt was superjacked in Fight Club and that I would never achieve a physique like that. I still need to shed some bulking pudge, but I'm significantly bigger than him already.
BTW, he has no lats.
05-16-2006, 07:38 PM
BTW, I do think there is probably a lot of AAS/GH in Hollywood. I hear Mullet's point, and the access to trainers, dieticians and personal chefs would definitely make it easier to get into sick shape, but I bet there is also some enhancement, which is not to say that most Hollywood physiques are not attainable naturally.
Plus, the camera makes them look bigger, so they are actually smaller than they appear.
05-16-2006, 08:46 PM
I'm sure many of them use things like Clen and GH. AAS? Probably not as common. But there is definetely some obvious assumptions that people can make like when LL Cool J got super jacked and suddenly Nelly put on some weight. Things like that but otherwise, I doubt it. It's not that popular for actors to be big, most of them are skinny as hell, use lighting make them look better, and of course make-up. And just remember when people are lean people think, "HOLY CRAP HE IS HUGE" when there arms are the size of some of our forearms.
05-16-2006, 08:50 PM
05-16-2006, 08:51 PM
05-16-2006, 08:56 PM
Well almost every actor in the longest yard was jacked to ****! LOL Bob Sapp, JESUS! lol. That huge guy from the Green Mile oh ya he was on something, i'd also say the Rock also. You also have to keep inmind that if you had the money to buy all the supplements you want and have a chef cook all your meals so even when dieting you don't feel like your on a diet, you'd make crazy progress too. I have read that GH use is on the rize among the stars but i couldn't say that for sure.
05-16-2006, 10:13 PM
05-17-2006, 01:29 AM
05-17-2006, 07:50 AM
05-17-2006, 09:27 AM
I envision lower dose cycles.
Something to help with recovery, and shift lean body comp in a short period. Would also make sense if they have to hold their condition, under less than ideal circumstances.
I also think it'd be more common when an actor gets hurt/injured during the prep for a movie - or they get behind on training/diet, and have to radically alter their physique with less than 6 weeks.
05-17-2006, 12:17 PM
i'm sure plenty of them use gear .. its their livelihood .. and stallone has pretty much admitted to gear usage in the early-mid 80's ... big difference in his physique from Rocky (dope movie) to rocky IV (mis movie)
05-17-2006, 04:25 PM
05-17-2006, 04:51 PM
Edward Norton - American History X (Looks like a different person)
That geek from Spiderman - Has Zol written all over it ;-) lol
05-17-2006, 05:49 PM
sometimes we forget that good gains can be obtained without pharms, in some people its obvious they are chem assisted, in others its just good genes and training
05-17-2006, 10:59 PM
05-17-2006, 11:14 PM
That geek from Spiderman - Has Zol written all over it ;-) lol
Lol he said ZOL Im just wondering how Topher Grace is going to play Venom. I dont see how its possible, and yet it is.
05-18-2006, 10:55 AM
You know i also heard Pitt used var for Troy, It would not suprise me if any of them used clen, after all some stars were/are hooked on speed, like Nicole Rchie, as well as Brandy.Originally Posted by LCSULLA
05-19-2006, 04:32 PM
What about Dolf Lundgren ? That guy was a beast in Rocky IV (played Drago) and now looks like he has aids LOL
05-21-2006, 10:21 PM
mcconahey seems to me that has just has good genetics, not juice. norton however blew up and srunk quickly so i think that it might be possible he took something and didn't keep up with it. though he could have just as well gotten that big with diet and exercise, he isn't anything huge.
others however im sure have juiced, without a doubt i think.
05-21-2006, 10:23 PM
Off topic (Rouge's fault): Rouge, you know I wear the Orange and Green glasses proudly. But, there was no way Dwayne Johnson was headed to da League as a DTackle. He was beaten out by a freshman.
Who just happened to be Warren Sapp. But, he wasn't that good at that point.
He realized after that season (his junior) that the NFL really wasn't for him in the future - so he went after wrestling.
05-22-2006, 12:27 AM
I'm thinking that a lot of Hollywood juices, and does other drugs, and cosmetic surgery, and personal chefs, and personal trainers, etc. Their image is their career, and vice versa. The mass public does not want to see the average person on the big screen, they want to see extraodinary people.
Don't think that actors have it so easy though. Yes, the famous ones do not have to work "regular" jobs, but when working on a movie or a tv series, you're easily looking at 12-17 hour days, 7 days a week, for many weeks straight. Unless you're rich enough to have your own chef, the majority of food on set is junk food. Plus who has time to go to the gym after a 17 hour intense shift? When you're done shooting for the night, you're studying the script for the next day - and especially on a tv series, there are changes each and every day. Everytime you flub a line, that's say, $1000 down the drain - lot's of pressure.
So I guess I'm saying I'm totally cool with Hollywood juicing.
Dwayne Johnson - The Rock ...yes, he played football before wrestling, and wrestling before acting. And in the competative world of college football, how many players do not juice? But the kicker for me was the puffy big nipples he sported in his early years of wrestling before his gyno surgery. Triple H's surgery is much more apparent than The Rock's in my opinion though.
At least The Rock publically admits having liposuction, and laughs that he has to because he's obsessed with donuts, LoL. He's pretty cool in my book, and I hope he does well in Hollywood.
05-22-2006, 12:57 AM
Off Topic (Again)...But didn't Sapp replace The Johnson only because of a knee injury? I know it took him awhile to recover, and actually had a training camp stint in the CFL with the Calgary Stampeder's but his knee was just not upto par.Originally Posted by jmh80
05-22-2006, 06:52 AM
I am writing my congressman to initiate a mandatory steroid test for all movie action stars!!!....and what about porno stars
Randy Spears has significant body mass changes over the year..I think those guys use PD5 inhibitors as well..I have also heard that a lot of the muscians, whose music our children listen to; smoke dope! not to mention the graphic artist that make our special effects!(StarWars,Lord of Rings,KingKong,Matrix)...What will be done? I ask you!!!
05-22-2006, 04:49 PM
If you are refering to Edward Norton in American History X, see it again. He was not nearly as big as I had thought when I weighed 140. Not to mention the fact that Hollywood lighting maximizes size and cuts.Originally Posted by Pioneer
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