gyno surgery, post op log
12-21-2005 02:39 PM
gyno surgery, post op log
in my avatar are before pics, first @ 18years of age, 112lbs (cross country runner), you can see there is hardly any bodyfat (about 7%) but that gland is pushing through. the next is 23 years of age, 175lbs. gland is fairly hidden in the pic, 2 PH (during '04) cycles improved the appearance during cycle, during/after pct, the glands had shooting pain and tenderness, but no additional growth ever happened (pct was always 6-oxo and tamox citrate).
I have looked flat as hell post op, i'm 3 weeks out, tried lifting 3 x so far, did a super light full body workout at the2 week point (bad idea), and 2 moderate workouts over the prev weekend (back and legs). upper body movements (chest, shoulders) are very limited on range of movement, pecs feel like they are rubber bands that could snap at too far a movement. scarring underneath op sites became very apparent at 2 weeks, it is more painful than the surgery itself was. Hoping this stuff goes away - the scarring is like knots under the skin, basically everywhere the gyno was. found out the total amount of fat lipo'd was 300cc's, then glands were excised. interesting side note, the surgery fixed all appearance of nipple puffiness. So far very happy with the procedure, just hoping the internal scarring goes down soon.
12-21-2005 05:12 PM
definitely keep this updated if you can. I might be looking into this around a year from now
12-21-2005 10:38 PM
as might I...i heard the scarring goes away after a couple weeks tho...its a common side from lipo.
12-23-2005 01:18 PM
How much was it if I may ask. I am trying to get a rough idea of what it would cost to get it done.
12-23-2005 05:05 PM
I can't say what his cost, but I can say from my experience, that I paid about 4300 for gyno surgery from a top tier cosmetic surgeon in connecticut, that 4300 covered everything mind you, the actual surgeon charged about 2400, and by the looks of what he had, I needed more, prices are very liquid with some surgeons, it all depends what ya need done. I needed some fat sucked out and very minor glandular issues, he didnt go through areola, he went through below my armpit in tiny little holes the size of the head of a pencil.
12-23-2005 05:13 PM
My total amount removed was 300cc of lard (could be pictured as about enough liquid to fill a baseball sized balloon), and then the glands were excised. my cost was 4750 out of pocket. a little extra for percocet copay, and bought some size small underarmor shirts which the surgeon suggested to me as a more effective & comfortable alternative to compression vests. For whats its worth, the percocet was totally unnecessary. the pain was not the worst in the world, not to say it didn't hurt any, but percocet did nothing in terms of pain relief.
12-23-2005 05:43 PM
yeah I was gonna say, the pain for me was totally bearable w/o any meds, unless you have some nerves I dont
12-25-2005 12:40 AM
How did you get gyno if you did your PCT? Ill be doing a cycle of SD soon and about 10/20mg on nolva on cycle, and 20mg of nolva and Fenotest PCT, I dont want any gyno
12-25-2005 02:30 AM
Running with the Big Boys
ITHURTZ, just wondering how much research have you done? Also what is your age..
12-25-2005 09:11 AM
Research on what, SD itself, or about gyno? Iv done my fair share of research on SD. I am 21 years old.
12-25-2005 10:59 AM
Running with the Big Boys
The reason I asked about research, you are asking questions that have been asked on here more than a few times..
12-25-2005 11:06 AM
Originally Posted by ITHURTZ
20mg of Nolva PCT?!?
12-25-2005 11:21 PM
PH's never made my glands increase permanently in size, though they would swell up some during and after pct (which as prev. stated was 6-oxo & nolva). 1-ad, 1-test, 4-ad, and 1,4-ad never had the irritating factors that the methyl's seemed to. Strange, that I've seen a lot of negative things in terms of gyno stated on this board, in regards to delayed reactions after SD use. I did not have that happen with sd, but e...max lmg gave me the worst nip/gland pains during and after pct, seriously freaky pains and swelling (skin around areola discolored from swelling of gland behind it).
Day after tomorrow will be 4 weeks. I did a few pullups tonight at home, that seems to be the last thing I could NOT do in the gym, can now sleep again with arms under my head, which is something I totally took for granted. Chest muscles still feel a little tight and uncomfortable to stretch though. the glandular area (my surgeon explained that he leaves a small layer of the gland to fill in the sunken space and preserve a natural appearance) still hurts some, i'm supposing from the excision. I've really noticed also that the very hard internal scar tissue that became extremely prominent at the 2 week point is starting to recede a good deal.
12-26-2005 12:21 AM
No I wasnt aware that you could get gyno while taking a PCT unless its crap.
12-26-2005 09:18 PM
12-26-2005 11:44 PM
ok Ill take 40 a day for pct. Thanks for the heads up
12-27-2005 02:49 PM
Care on sharing who you used in CT
Originally Posted by Meerschaum
12-28-2005 12:55 AM
Originally Posted by DaWarw
uh who said I would do pct for 1 week?
01-01-2006 12:13 PM
Its been nearly 5 weeks now, I'm not being very exact with dates here. Still have numbness in places, mainly the nips, skin directly bordering them, and the front half of my right armpit, which is considerably better than numbness all the way across my chest. For those considering the surgery in the future - workout concerns, I did my first real chest workout last week at a little over 4 weeks post op. weak. prior to surgery I was getting decent reps (4-5) with 95lb dumbbells. on this chest workout i was able to do same amount of reps with 70lbs, I suspect it will all come back quickly though. Actually really nice taking a break, that was my first month long break from lifting in about 4 years. have done a back and leg workout the prev. week as well, all lifts decreased a bit, about 25% in poundage anyways, but it has been a while since I've had a good case of doms. hooray for deadlifts, rows, and sldl's. happy new years.
01-27-2006 11:38 PM
Its been about 7.5 weeks since the surgery (haven't updated this in a long time). Everything is going well. the incision points for the cannula's scarred more obviously than i thought they would, they are still a red/brown color, but at least they are just about half a cm long. the nips are fully healed up, and look WAY smaller than before. In terms of satisfaction with the work, if anyone was interested I can tell the docs name who did it... the symmetry is not perfect, but he told me beforehand that perfect symmetry would not probably happen. A little more fat tissue could have been removed from the right side to match up the job on the left, but all in all i'm happy. still some really weird little shooting pain sensations like i was having before with 100% of the gland intact, but they are very infrequent and pain, if I could rate it, is maybe half or less of what it was. full range of motion has been back for about 3 weeks or so. Its strange, I can still feel the hard part of the gland that is left (maybe 20% i would estimate of what was originally there, but you can't really see it). When I flex my chest, its weird how the skin draws when the muscle moves, i'm trying to get used to this (the skin where the nip is, it lays flat, or something - hard to describe - all the muscle pulls up above it and the nip is kind of left floating down below the muscle, I have no idea if that is normal).
One really cool thing about the surgery also... my nipples were always pretty large & puffy. No longer the case, they stay hard all the time, even if i'm hot. it is SO NICE to be able to wear t shirts and not see the cone shape of the nip protruding.
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