ya dude.....i remember you my friend. (ha) rick man. ya, i did have that jackson, and its probably collecting dust up in my parents place. this wild we into this same ordeal of liftin' and even more so, interested in ph's. you using some now (you on a cycle?) i jsut started mine my friend. im bouts to be there over the winter break man, possibly thanxgiving too. if you lift up at klahanie fitness over the break, we might have to get our lift on together. you a personal trainer huh...what certification? i got one easy one just to get things started and bout to get something like a.c.e man. i definetely remember you....you still be around the plateua some? you still hangin' round those cats like shawn,justin...i wasnt close with none of em but know who you talking bout. keep in touch through this forum ...again, this wild (oh...thanx sean for your input) ha