interested in buying a handgun.....
08-26-2005 04:28 PM
interested in buying a handgun.....
I am looking into buying a handgun and was wondering what yall have and what type of input yall could give. I live where they have about the best shooting complex in the state and would like to take advantage of it for learning and self defense purposes.
08-26-2005 04:37 PM
recently bought a glock .45
shoots smoother than any handgun i've ever fooled with. hella straight too. depends a lot on how much you're willing to spend. h&k's would be the top notch choice IMO, but they've got a pricetag. Kimber, Glock, and Sig's would be a close second.
08-26-2005 04:50 PM
I personally own a Sig P226 in 9mm and would DEFINITELY recommend it as a handgun. If you want a bigger boom I believe the P220 is the .45 version of the P226.
Also Beretta's model 92 (9mm) and model 96 (.40 cal) are amazing guns as well - if you go this route I would recommend the Brigadier model as it comes with nicer grips and heavier duty slide.
Kimber's are very nice but also very pricey - I don't think I would recommend as a first handgun.
By the way - all those above are semi-auto's. If you want a revolver I would recommend the Smith & Wesson model 686 with 6 inch barrel in .357. Revolvers chambered in .357 can also be loaded with .38 Special with no modification needed - the advantage being that since the .38 has MUCH less of a kick to it, so it's easier to learn on (and for bringing girl's to the range with you - EVERY girl I have taken shooting with me has loved it) plus the rounds are cheaper. Then when you want to make some noise you fill'er up with the .357 rounds and really cause some heat.
Let us know what you decide!
08-26-2005 04:52 PM
was looking at Glock 29 with Night sights,
08-26-2005 05:23 PM
The .40 cal makes a really nice carry gun IMO. Better stopper than the 9mm but still easy to control in a compact frame. Hard to beat a full size .45 for the nightstand though IMO
08-26-2005 07:33 PM
I agree with Focus, go with either a .40 or .45 caliber gun if intent is for defense. Choose the gun based on your personal preferences. Some gun ranges rent guns so try a variety and see which suits your needs. If you want one that you can customize fairly inexpensively I'd go with a Colt 1911/1991A1 design. I have several and the only stock parts are the frame and slide.
08-26-2005 07:50 PM
I second this recommendation. Everyone has a tendency to lean towards the semiauto handguns, but I have a S&W 686 with a six inch barrel and absolutely loved it. I would defintely say this is an excellent choice for a first handgun if you are using it to shoot at a range or for home self defense. Easy to maintain and fun to shoot, and the ability to fire .38's really saves cash. It also seems to fit perfectly in my hands, and I had some issues with the smaller semiautos and the slides catching on my hands. However, the 686 isn't really a viable option as a concealed carry piece. I am actually looking at a small Glock, I think it a model 38, as a carry piece.
Originally Posted by BigP0ppa3
08-26-2005 09:18 PM
Originally Posted by ersatz
I am a big fan of the 1911. Being single action they are not usually favored as a carry weapon but my US military issue 1911 is the pride of my collection I believe para-ordinace made a double action at one time, but I could be wrong
08-26-2005 09:21 PM
FTR, nothin' wrong w/ 9mm - just train yourself to fire 2-3 round bursts, and choose your fodder wisely. Hydra-shok, Cor-Bon, Golden Saber & Black Talon (now "Ranger") are all potent rounds (to name a few) - a couple of those to the midsection will slow down anyone; however, you can't go wrong w/ JHPs in a +P load.
not dissen anyone's choice of arms - all fine mechanisms (personally, I run an all-Ruger household, tho I'm considering a 5-rnd .45 hide-out).
08-26-2005 09:30 PM
In my opinion if your buying a handgun for self defense .357 isn't best choice. Self defense senario will almost always be close quarters, opt for knock down over velocity. And practice with the round you're going to fire under that senario, if your gonna practice with .38's just buy a .38
Originally Posted by joecski
08-26-2005 10:05 PM
Originally Posted by FOCUS
08-27-2005 08:39 AM
I'd have to recommend a Sig 220 in .45 ACP or a Smith and Wesson 686 in 4" or 6" barrel length. I own them both, the wife shoots the 686 in competition and I carry the220 everyday. If you're looking for something for home defense then I'd have to recommend a shortened shotgun. Mossberg and Remington make nice weapons just for this purpose. I use #7 shot with a full turkey choke in mine. Needless to say the only story that will be told at my house will be mine. OTOH if you're rolling in the dough, an MP5SD is nice as is the Mini Uzi . I likes my rat a tat toyz
08-27-2005 09:00 AM
dead sexy wino
Lots of good info here. If this is for home defense, I would opt for a shotgun. Then you have the most awesome knockdown power, you can hit something when you are half asleep, and will not shoot your neighbors. Besides, nothing gets a bad guys' attention like the cycling of a shotgun slide
If you are going to carry, then think about when you'll be doing so. I like to have two types of carry guns. One is a compact Walther PPKS. Great for going out to dinner or to the gym because it hides very easily (hahahah...J/K about the gym .....but it sounded cool). My G/F doesn't like me to carry and she never notices when I do. So I must conceal very well Then, for times when you can wear a shoulder holster or are going camping or something, you can get the Sig, H&K, Smith, etc.
08-27-2005 09:48 AM
you are right there is alot of good info in this thread. i am for sure looking into self defense as well as a good target shooter. The knockdown power and sound of a shotgun would be enought to scare a jackass thats trying to get into your house (along with a Beware of dog sign) but i do already have a shotgun.
what are yalls thoughts on Browning and Ruger?
08-27-2005 01:04 PM
Originally Posted by wildman536
Ruger,Browning, S&W, SIG, Glock, etc are all well made pistols. If your buying a handgun for self defense the deciding factors should be size, caliber, and mechanics.
If your going to carry on you or keep in a glove box of car etc you wanna go with a more compact frame. If it is strictly for home protection a larger frame pistol is usually more comfortable to shoot and offers wider range of options.
9mm, .40, .45 are the best suited and most widely available calibers for self defense (My opinion)
Pisol mechanics are usually double action, single action, and SA/DA.
Single action pistols must have the hammer pulled back before they can be fired(ex 1911) Accuracy is improved with this type due to much shorter trigger pull but are not preffered for carry since the pistol would be carried in the less safe "cocked" postion.
Double action pistols usually do not have external hammers.(ex Glock) They are very popular for their simplicity of use and safety. However DA pistols require a much longer trigger pull which can hamper speed and accuracy.
My personal preference are SA/DA auto's with de-cocking levers ( Ex SIG p229) These allow you to chamber a round and lower the hammer with a thumb switch. The pistol will fire the first round with a long trigger pull and the slide will leave the hammer cocked for short pull shots after the initial.
08-27-2005 02:19 PM
Thanks for the reply Focus.
08-27-2005 07:37 PM
It all depends on what you are wanting it for. .45 cal has great stopping power, but will hold less rounds. .40 cal is easier to handle and holds more rounds. One thing to think of is if the gun has a safety or not, or if you even want a safety on it. The Glocks do not offer a safety. Sigs don't have them either, but S&W do, and there are others as well.
If I had to choose, I would go with a Glock .40. I shot one for 5 years while on a swat team and loved it. It's different shooting than any other gun. Now, if I were to go with a .45 cal I'd go with a Sig. That's what I carry right now, and it's sweet. Others have mentioned different guns, which are very good as well.
If I were you, I would try shooting different ones and find the one you like before purchasing it. Some ranges offer to rent a firearm to try out.
08-27-2005 07:50 PM
yeah, i might get one with a safety next time.
08-27-2005 08:16 PM
How much is .40 ammo relatively? Is ammo cost and availability going to be a factor..
08-28-2005 10:11 AM
Although slightly off topic, you cant beat a 22 lr. in terms of plinking at random targets be they soda cans, fruit, etc.. Economy wise, this round costs almost nothing thus enabling one to shoot countless rounds for a few bucks!
In terms of stopping power, a 45 auto would probably be your best bet. Anything larger and recoil becomes out of control. Regardless of which gun you choose, spending lots of time on the range is what really counts.
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