Cuffs' Road To Recovery...Let The Healing Begin!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    Stay away from the crazy wife....she's nuts. Forget her ****in' notes. I believe many of us (or at least me) said she'd be doing weird **** like this. NEXT it gets ugly. I'm sorry, but it will, and that's regardless of how nice you are to her. She is no longer the puppeteer and she is gonna get pissed. Look at my age, disregard my info for that fact, but I'm pretty damn positive in this.

    Screw the viagra...get some cialis and make a weekend out of the orgy on one dose
    If you were the vindicative type you could have some real fun with the ex right now...Just a thought


  2. I say you go for it brother. Whats the worst thing that can happen? Like you said, as long as you both understand that its not going to turn into anything serious, than theres no pressure. Have some fun man. You deserve it!

    Either way, best of luck to ya!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by DieTrying
    I say you go for it brother. Whats the worst thing that can happen? Like you said, as long as you both understand that its not going to turn into anything serious, than theres no pressure. Have some fun man. You deserve it!

    Either way, best of luck to ya!
    I agree...you're officially 20 something again for a few months Live it up!

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  5. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    The sex, or orgy if you may, would be only a temporary fix for my problem. Basically a bandaid on a broken leg. Thanks for the advice Brian (B5150). We'll see were this all takes me. I don't know if I will have the will power to say no to the orgy though.
    Perfect analogy. B5150's advice is sound. As far as the orgy, you just need to to decide if you want to live a life that revolves around external pleasures and fleeting happiness or are you looking for something a little more permanent and fulfilling. It's tough to deny the flesh, but that's character building for ya. I still stand by my advice in your last thread. Do that first and you will find that decisions like these become no-brainers. I am not saying you wouldn't chose the orgy; just different motives behind the decision. Need or " for free & for fun". It currently sounds more like the need @ this moment, but that's IMHO.

    Try some reading, "The Four Agreements" by Don Miguel Ruiz is a good place to start. I figure you already have the book I was talking about in your other thread.
    peace
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    The age gap plays a large role in this. If I was younger, I wouldn't have thought twice and already made the arrangements to hit it. ****, the chick tells me there may even be a 4-some, that 3 of her girls may be interested. Also, she has an attorney who is interested in going out with me. As far as I know she is clean, but who can say for sure. She stressed the fact that she gets physicals every 6 months, and has always had a clean bill of health, always uses condoms. Oh yeah, and she said she swallows.

    I'm leaning towards backing off a bit, and maybe just keeping he flirting going on a tad longer. My wife is confusing th **** out of me. She leaves me a note saying she misses me, but it may be because she is out of her comfort zone. She tells me she loves me, calls me and text messages me all the time. She also says we don' know what the future holds and we may get back together, but she doesn't want to give me false hopes. ****, just when I thought I was moving on, I'm crying once again. That's why I need to hold off on things a bit. The sex, or orgy if you may, would be only a temporary fix for my problem. Basically a bandaid on a broken leg. Thanks for the advice Brian (B5150). We'll see were this all takes me. I don't know if I will have the will power to say no to the orgy though. I do have some viagra laying around too.
    for your own sanity....i would not accept phone calls from your wife, move on..she is mentally messing with you........Not ok......

    it's like "dont want the toy in the sandbox until another kid is playing with it"......sadly your the toy.....

    ((((HUGZ))))) time to move on.......for your own sanity

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    The age gap plays a large role in this. If I was younger, I wouldn't have thought twice and already made the arrangements to hit it. ****, the chick tells me there may even be a 4-some, that 3 of her girls may be interested. Also, she has an attorney who is interested in going out with me. As far as I know she is clean, but who can say for sure. She stressed the fact that she gets physicals every 6 months, and has always had a clean bill of health, always uses condoms. Oh yeah, and she said she swallows.

    I'm leaning towards backing off a bit, and maybe just keeping he flirting going on a tad longer. My wife is confusing th **** out of me. She leaves me a note saying she misses me, but it may be because she is out of her comfort zone. She tells me she loves me, calls me and text messages me all the time. She also says we don' know what the future holds and we may get back together, but she doesn't want to give me false hopes. ****, just when I thought I was moving on, I'm crying once again. That's why I need to hold off on things a bit. The sex, or orgy if you may, would be only a temporary fix for my problem. Basically a bandaid on a broken leg. Thanks for the advice Brian (B5150). We'll see were this all takes me. I don't know if I will have the will power to say no to the orgy though. I do have some viagra laying around too.

    Look Cuffs you need to drop your ex. She's just ****ing with your head at this point. And why would you want to be with someone that makes you miserable? If you keep the 24yr old around.. She's a booty call nothing more. Make sure you keep that distiction. She's a little to "free" with her goods to make a long term, meaningful realtionship with her.

  8. I hope your ex doesn't have a PI filming your reverse gangbang.

  9. Quote Originally Posted by LCSULLA
    Look Cuffs you need to drop your ex. She's just ****ing with your head at this point. And why would you want to be with someone that makes you miserable? If you keep the 24yr old around.. She's a booty call nothing more. Make sure you keep that distiction. She's a little to "free" with her goods to make a long term, meaningful realtionship with her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150
    I am ready to get my **** together and recover. Time to feel good about myself and be happy.

    I am going to continue with my counseling. It has been helping me a great deal, and I want to be a better person
    This is the opportunity of a lifetime. DON'T MISS IT!!!
    I want to make a point clear. I'm not saying that banging 3-4 chicks ain't going to be a freak show and a blast. But what will it accomplish in you reaching or achieving what you want to be as a person. You make statements like the ones I quoted, but yet your thinking gets distracted by the other carnal issues. You are struggling with double mindedness that will really mess you up if you are not careful. If you truely desire to become the person you profess to want to become then you need to walk a path that will lead you to the tools and growth opportunities that will elevate you to becoming that person. Hanging and banging with loose and promiscuous people are not the opportunities that will afford you this growth.

    Again, don't get me wrong, I am not, in this case, judging being a man-whore by any means. If that is what you desire to be than the associations that you have been keeping will surely aide in your success.

    But if you desire to recover, become a man of greater character and integrity, greater self respect and pride, you may need to reconsider your playmates.

    Pursue the people places and things that will support and encourage you to become who you want to become. Avoid those things that will be unproductive or destructive to you achieving your goals.

    You cannot walk two paths. Choose the path that you want to follow, get on it, and stay on it. Don't look back. It would be better to be sitting still, stuck and stalled, on the right path, than to be making good time on the wrong path.

    You plan cycles, you plan diets, you plan your training. You acquire the (insert AAS or not), you acquire the food and you acquire or utilize the equipment. Without the correct choices and application of the above you will not succede at achieving your goal. Your life is not different. Without the correct choices and applications and tools you will not succede at achieving your goals.

    It's your life. Plan your work and work your plan.

    If we stay in the middle of the road too long the odds increase that sooner or later we will get hit by a bus.

    My prayer for you my friend is that the Holy Spirit will knock you so hard, off to the right side of the fence you are sitting on, that you will be unable to find your way back to straddle it again.

    There are many different views and opinions that people can and will share. Mine is not necessarily the right or best one...just mine. I have some life experience, but that experince is worthless if I have not gained some wisdom, and useless if I did not share it. So I share it with you, humbly and grateful for your consideration.
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  11. Quote Originally Posted by wranglergirl
    for your own sanity....i would not accept phone calls from your wife, move on..she is mentally messing with you........Not ok......

    it's like "dont want the toy in the sandbox until another kid is playing with it"......sadly your the toy.....

    ((((HUGZ))))) time to move on.......for your own sanity
    that is bang-on advice. Sounds exactly like when my ex and I split...all of a sudden I was infinitely desirable, midnight teary phone calls, etc. I just said "I have a different life now, call me this weekend". That enforced that there would be days without any contact -- which is what we both needed. I suggest you do the same, like WG says -- don't take the calls unless it's a weekend or some other pre-determined time.


    And you need to keep the distance -- after about 2 months, I just said "communicate only by email please so we can move on". That lets you both get on with things.

    Then like Kwyck says, the ugliness may start (it usually does) because the ex realizes "**** he's REALLY REALLY GONE and I am NOW ALONE" so they try to push buttons to piss you off -- that gets your attention.

    Keep your head up, get set to put the phone on "ignore" and stay above it -- water off a duck's back and you get through it.

    You are not the only confused one and you and your ex will both vascillate but dude -- give yourself a break here too. Be sure to forgive yourself if you do some "dumb stuff" in the next while. And her too.

    But you both turned the corner and walked away and it's over. The bandaids' coming off whether it's slow or fast it's a big one and it's going to hurt you both for a while.

    You now have to make the distance really happen for you both.

  12. I am just in a place where I am yearning for some form of physical comfort, I guess. I know whoring around will not help, but rather make me into the person I don not wish to become. That happened during my first marriage. However, I do look back at the 3-way opportunities that I passed on then, and kick myself today for not participating...LOL. The 24 year old knows it's only for booty calls and not to get tied down. ****, she told me that. Also, she is not one to bring home to Mom, or to become involved with for me. Just the fact of the age difference alone.

    My wife caled me today and said she misses me, loves me, and would like to come back, but she feels it is just her comfort zone with me. She then ends it by telling me she does not foresee herself coming back, and for me to move on. I'm going to take the advice and just not talk to her for a while again.

    I have some friends looking out for me, and they are trying to find some "nice" ladies for me to start going out with. I'm not looking for anything serious at all. My main focus is on myself and my son at this time. He's back from his mothers for school, so he is with me until vacations. That will help keep me busy. Maybe I'll even find a few single MILF's who have kids at his school...LOL.

    I'm going to a party tonight. There's supposed to be a single nurse a girlfriend wants to introduce me to. I'm just going to hang out and have some fun this evening.

    My girlfriend who is going through issues with her husband wants to meet up with me for a drink later tonight so we can talk. She's been a great help with me, and I for her during this time. I guess misery loves company. I just need to make sure that we stay friends and don't get all mixed up in the moment. So, I'll probably just have a non-alcoholic drink with her.

    The wisdom spoken here has been a great help. I see both sides of the board, but know the path I need to follow. Basically, Brian gives the sound advice. Not to say you other dudes are wrong. I will have fun, but will also be responsible. Whatever it is I end up doing, I will post it here, jucy or not. I want to be able to share with this community for others to follow. Maybe it will help someone down the road when they see the right things I do, and the mistakes I will make.

  13. Oh, I forgot to mention this. I ran into a chick I have known for years. She is a tri-athlete and has a killer body. She used to be married to a pro football player. Anyways, I see her and she asks how I'm doing, so I tell her what's going on in my life. She tells me, "I'm sorry, but you are looking very good, very fit, you'll have no problem finding someone." A compliment like that, from a person such as herself sent me away smiling. It was nice hearing that compliment. ****, I'm down to 215 lbs right now. I feel freakin small...LOL. My Dad even said I was looking "skinny". That pissed me off. But, I am still cutting, and my muscle measurements are the same. Just my face and torso have really lost the fat and bloat.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    I am just in a place where I am yearning for some form of physical comfort, I guess. I know whoring around will not help, but rather make me into the person I don not wish to become. That happened during my first marriage. However, I do look back at the 3-way opportunities that I passed on then, and kick myself today for not participating...LOL. The 24 year old knows it's only for booty calls and not to get tied down. ****, she told me that. Also, she is not one to bring home to Mom, or to become involved with for me. Just the fact of the age difference alone.

    My wife caled me today and said she misses me, loves me, and would like to come back, but she feels it is just her comfort zone with me. She then ends it by telling me she does not foresee herself coming back, and for me to move on. I'm going to take the advice and just not talk to her for a while again.

    I have some friends looking out for me, and they are trying to find some "nice" ladies for me to start going out with. I'm not looking for anything serious at all. My main focus is on myself and my son at this time. He's back from his mothers for school, so he is with me until vacations. That will help keep me busy. Maybe I'll even find a few single MILF's who have kids at his school...LOL.

    I'm going to a party tonight. There's supposed to be a single nurse a girlfriend wants to introduce me to. I'm just going to hang out and have some fun this evening.

    My girlfriend who is going through issues with her husband wants to meet up with me for a drink later tonight so we can talk. She's been a great help with me, and I for her during this time. I guess misery loves company. I just need to make sure that we stay friends and don't get all mixed up in the moment. So, I'll probably just have a non-alcoholic drink with her.

    The wisdom spoken here has been a great help. I see both sides of the board, but know the path I need to follow. Basically, Brian gives the sound advice. Not to say you other dudes are wrong. I will have fun, but will also be responsible. Whatever it is I end up doing, I will post it here, jucy or not. I want to be able to share with this community for others to follow. Maybe it will help someone down the road when they see the right things I do, and the mistakes I will make.

    If you do anything else....dont take your wife's phone calls...infact change cell numbers..sounds stupid but its your heart, your pain and now you need to move on........((((HUGZ))))))

  15. Yeah...that wife-lady is crazy man....I'm glad to hear you're going to cut off the communication for a bit, that's the best thing.

    And, you know what I"ll say about the threesome Sex is sex is sex is sex. There is nothing mystical or magical about it. You do it, its fun...like going to an amusement park......but only your weenie gets to ride. Dont' whore to be a whore, but I wouldn't blame you for taking a good opportunity.

    The love is in the hug, the kiss, and the little things.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
    The love is in the hug, the kiss, and the little things.
    True, but those are the things I missing right now. I believe what the others were trying to say with their messages was, don't get caught up and **** up your emotions more than they already are. If I start to think the love is in the booty call sex, or clinging to the first thing I hook up with, then I'm on the path to failure. I know to not do this, but human emotions are nothing to screw with. The threeway???...well, I will not pass that up again. Unless the chicks turn out to be baggers, or something I need to drink pretty. I don't mean to sound shallow WG, so don't please don't think any less of me. I'm just going to be picky who I am with. I do have some standards.

  17. It sounds shallow, but its true. Being attracted to somebody does matter. And attractiveness is subjective and really depends no how attractive a person is, or thinks they are. A good lookin' person can see a not-so good lookin person and won't be attracted. Whereas someone who is not-so good lookin' themselves can see that same person and see someone totally different and be attracted.

    I can understand you missing those things...I would, too...well, I DO and my g/f has only been gone on vacation for 5 days (3.5yrs together, so its a looong relationship--we'd be married if it werent' for school, etc....you know Mrs. Gimpy ) But for now, go ahead and live life like you would as if you were single.....cuz..uh...you are Dont' act married if you're not, ya know? Maybe just keep this one chick for booty-calls, and date around. Yo udon't need to be a whore, but people usually need sex ya know...and, if you need it, you might as well get it from a freak who will screw your brains out

  18. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    True, but those are the things I missing right now. I believe what the others were trying to say with their messages was, don't get caught up and **** up your emotions more than they already are. If I start to think the love is in the booty call sex, or clinging to the first thing I hook up with, then I'm on the path to failure. I know to not do this, but human emotions are nothing to screw with. The threeway???...well, I will not pass that up again. Unless the chicks turn out to be baggers, or something I need to drink pretty. I don't mean to sound shallow WG, so don't please don't think any less of me. I'm just going to be picky who I am with. I do have some standards.
    I agree you have to be attracted to someone,,,,its nateral....

    I wish u well cuffs, you have been through to much...time to move on and start to heal.......

  19. Yeah, I just found out my wife is dating a person from her work who is going through a divorce. I knew it had to be something, but was holding out until I knew for sure. At least now I know. I'm doing okay with it at this time. She is already starting a list to divide our property and all. She wants to do this quickly. I'm sure her, and his, "rebound" will last forever. She's affraid I'm going to find out who he is and beat him down. I guess he's kind of a frail guy and he saw a picture of me and became concerned. Oh well, just working on me now. Not anything to lose my job over.

    I actually have an attorney who wants to go out on Thursday night with me. Also have the 24 year old hottie who wants to hook up for a night of sex. I need to make a choice here. Hell, maybe I'll go out with the attorney, then go bang the 24 year old afterwards...LOL.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    I actually have an attorney who wants to go out on Thursday night with me. Also have the 24 year old hottie who wants to hook up for a night of sex. I need to make a choice here. Hell, maybe I'll go out with the attorney, then go bang the 24 year old afterwards...LOL.
    Just be careful, the meeting with the attorney might kill your libido!

    Best of luck to you Cuffs, have a great time, you deserve it !

  21. Quote Originally Posted by joecski
    Just be careful, the meeting with the attorney might kill your libido!

    Best of luck to you Cuffs, have a great time, you deserve it !
    LOL...I know what you mean there. Actually, she is a prosecutor for the District Attorney's office in the county I work in. She's not a wild chick at all. Just nice, quiet, intelligent, very conservative. The kind of lady you'd bring home to mom. It may be nice just to go out and have dinner and a movie type of date. Just to hang out, talk, and get to know one another. Although, she may be the type who is looking for more down the road.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Although, she may be the type who is looking for more down the road.
    And as a prosecutor she is probably working 80 hours a week for $40,000/yr. Down the road she will be working 30 hours a week for $250/hr. I think I would probably go to dinner with her too and walk down that road!

    Then after dinner I would hook up with the 24 yr old to make a stop on that road!

  23. Quote Originally Posted by joecski
    And as a prosecutor she is probably working 80 hours a week for $40,000/yr. Down the road she will be working 30 hours a week for $250/hr. I think I would probably go to dinner with her too and walk down that road!

    Then after dinner I would hook up with the 24 yr old to make a stop on that road!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by joecski
    And as a prosecutor she is probably working 80 hours a week for $40,000/yr. Down the road she will be working 30 hours a week for $250/hr. I think I would probably go to dinner with her too and walk down that road!

    Then after dinner I would hook up with the 24 yr old to make a stop on that road!
    Great minds think alike...LOL!

  25. Okay dudes. I'm posting up a pic of the 24 year old who has been talking to me. Am I bragging...maybe a bit. Had some phone sex with her last night. Kinda different for me. This girl is a pretty wild party chick. Anyways, she's the chick in the black and white stripe shirt. The others are her some of her friends she wants to hook me up with as well. A couple of them are cute. But, who the hell cares if it's 3 on 1??? Damn, this is going to be hard to resist. WG...please don't think any less of me...
    Last edited by Cuffs; 09-30-2005 at 06:19 PM.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Okay dudes. I'm posting up a pic of the 24 year old who has been talking to me. Am I bragging...maybe a bit. Had some phone sex with her last night. Kinda different for me. This girl is a pretty wild party chick. Anyways, she's the chick in the black and white stripe shirt. The others are her some of her friends she wants to hook me up with as well. A couple of them are cute. But, who the hell cares if it's 3 on 1??? Damn, this is going to be hard to resist. WG...please don't think any less of me...
    BWaaqahahahahahahah........... .......YES. Give in to the dark side, Cuffs!

    MmmMMMMm is all I've got to say. Do you get to take all of them?

    I'm so very excited that you're recognizing the power and greatness of the dark side of the force, Cuffs

  27. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Yeah, I just found out my wife is dating a person from her work
    Wanted to stop you there Cuffs. That's a "slip of the tongue" and it's a dangerous one.

    As of a few days ago, any sentence like that you need to use "ex-wife" or "soon to be ex-wife". Yes, I know divorce has not yet happened, etc. but even though it sounds like you really have got your stuff together you need to keep your head straight and keep walking that tightrope. You need to see it as "done". Helps with you moving forward, insulates you some from any possible heartache.

    So, keeping with it the next thought to yourself is: "Why should that person's dating bother you? She's not part of your life now..."

    That mentality is what kept me sane. I hope this message doesn't come off as high-handed or something, there really was power in this (for me and a couple of friends who went through similar stuff).

    It sounds like you've already got that together based upon your posts but your subconscious needs a LOT to get itself programmed and small stuff adds up in it. The wrong words reinforce what you don't want, the right ones slowly reinforce what you do want.

    ...Not anything to lose my job over.
    Damn right.

    P.S. nice pic...lol now us married dudes will live vicariously through you!! But you might want to reconsider posting it. Your (and her) anonymity is lessened and you may find later that you wish it were not.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Oh well, just working on me now.
    Best advice for yourself yet. And Cuffs.....dump the Ex.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Cuffs
    Okay dudes. I'm posting up a pic of the 24 year old who has been talking to me. Am I bragging...maybe a bit. Had some phone sex with her last night. Kinda different for me. This girl is a pretty wild party chick. Anyways, she's the chick in the black and white stripe shirt. The others are her some of her friends she wants to hook me up with as well. A couple of them are cute. But, who the hell cares if it's 3 on 1??? Damn, this is going to be hard to resist. WG...please don't think any less of me...
    Bro', you seem like a pretty decent guy, so here's advice from another arm-chair observer -just frickin' do it!!! Forget all the B.S philosophy about whether you should or you shouldn't and and enjoy frickin' life!!! I'm saying this as one of the OLDER guys on this board (older than 45, but younger than 60!) What's wrong with just being a decent, red-blooded male who enjoys consensual sex with an adult female (or females, as the case may be) whom he finds intriguing and attractive? I mean, am I missing something here? If you are truly too mentally and emotionally f'ed up to do so, then you should seek professional help rather than the opinion of people on this BB (like MYSELF, LOL!). As far as I know, you are a healthy, hetero, American male who enjoys female companionship - duh! That female companionship need not be the next love-of-your-life - she can simply be someone that you enjoy sharing sex, conversation, ****-talking, or whatever with in the here and now. However, if it somehow turns out that way, that's cool too. And as an aside, the comments about one woman's suitablity (or lack thereof)for introducing to family as oppopsed to another woman's is not only premature, but it's immature. Until you've spent time with a person and engaged them in more than just casual conversation or observed them through more than casual observation, you can't even begin to guess at this! It's that old, male double standard in your own head that causes you to categorize these women as lady or not-a-lady based on your perception of each one's sexual attitude, number of past partners, etc...which may or may not translate into how each one will behave in a steady relationship (see your Ex for a reference point). As you know, everyone is multidimensional, and what each individual chooses to present to another is often determined by what they perceive about that particular person, and not necessarily "what they are all about."

    It really seems like your confidence has been shaken by the soon-to-be-ex and the "revelation" that she's seeing/involved with someone else, which is pretty normal, BUT... you've got to get past that and focus on YOUR NEEDS. You're making a straightforward proposition by the 24 y/o into something that is wayyy too complicated. If there is a mutual physical attraction, AND both parties are being upfront about the "hey, this is just sex thing," then just frickin' do it. Otherwise, YOU are the one jerkin' the 24 y/o around because you are simple using her interest to pump up your ego and confidence by engaging her in talk, but not following up with action!!!

    Keep it simple, don't lie, don't lead people on. and enjoy your health and good looks the way that any normal male would. Finally, you don't need to try to impress anyone else (yes, that includes all of us on this BB) with how desirable various women find you (and about one gazillion other men - duh!)- you simply need to be honest with yourself about what you can or cannot handle, what you desire or you don't, on a day-to-day basis and stop behaving as if any and every encounter with an attractive woman has to lead to your next "permanent" relationship!

    Roger willco, over and out...

  30. Quote Originally Posted by the Cardinal
    Bro', you seem like a pretty decent guy, so here's advice from another arm-chair observer -just frickin' do it!!! Forget all the B.S philosophy about whether you should or you shouldn't and and enjoy frickin' life!!! I'm saying this as one of the OLDER guys on this board (older than 45, but younger than 60!) What's wrong with just being a decent, red-blooded male who enjoys consensual sex with an adult female (or females, as the case may be) whom he finds intriguing and attractive? I mean, am I missing something here? If you are truly too mentally and emotionally f'ed up to do so, then you should seek professional help rather than the opinion of people on this BB (like MYSELF, LOL!). As far as I know, you are a healthy, hetero, American male who enjoys female companionship - duh! That female companionship need not be the next love-of-your-life - she can simply be someone that you enjoy sharing sex, conversation, ****-talking, or whatever with in the here and now. However, if it somehow turns out that way, that's cool too. And as an aside, the comments about one woman's suitablity (or lack thereof)for introducing to family as oppopsed to another woman's is not only premature, but it's immature. Until you've spent time with a person and engaged them in more than just casual conversation or observed them through more than casual observation, you can't even begin to guess at this! It's that old, male double standard in your own head that causes you to categorize these women as lady or not-a-lady based on your perception of each one's sexual attitude, number of past partners, etc...which may or may not translate into how each one will behave in a steady relationship (see your Ex for a reference point). As you know, everyone is multidimensional, and what each individual chooses to present to another is often determined by what they perceive about that particular person, and not necessarily "what they are all about."

    It really seems like your confidence has been shaken by the soon-to-be-ex and the "revelation" that she's seeing/involved with someone else, which is pretty normal, BUT... you've got to get past that and focus on YOUR NEEDS. You're making a straightforward proposition by the 24 y/o into something that is wayyy too complicated. If there is a mutual physical attraction, AND both parties are being upfront about the "hey, this is just sex thing," then just frickin' do it. Otherwise, YOU are the one jerkin' the 24 y/o around because you are simple using her interest to pump up your ego and confidence by engaging her in talk, but not following up with action!!!

    Keep it simple, don't lie, don't lead people on. and enjoy your health and good looks the way that any normal male would. Finally, you don't need to try to impress anyone else (yes, that includes all of us on this BB) with how desirable various women find you (and about one gazillion other men - duh!)- you simply need to be honest with yourself about what you can or cannot handle, what you desire or you don't, on a day-to-day basis and stop behaving as if any and every encounter with an attractive woman has to lead to your next "permanent" relationship!

    Roger willco, over and out...
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