Are most supplements hype and provide little to no help?

[CJNator]

https://youtu.be/axGHl7INfmA what are everyone's thoughts on this?

 

[T-Bone]

Do I have to watch the video?. I clicked on it and then I saw his face and hated. Then he started to talk and I wanted to punch my computer. So instead I closed that tab quickly. I hate internet gurus and youtube people that want to be famous by running their mouths about stupid crap most people could care less about. This could be a good thread. Just remove that youtube bum. Youtube is becoming worse than facebook. People need to just shut the hell up and put their stupid ass phones away. Stop Tweeting, facebooking, and whatever other social media hell people like doing, it needs to end. Social media really brings the stupid people out and gives them a voice. It single handily ruined the internet. Sure people can talk on here, but at least I don't have to see their stupid faces or hear their dumb ass voices.....Luckily on here you can disable pics so you don't have to see all these ugly ass people posting half naked pictures of themselves seeking approval.

Ok I'm done ranting. You either read it or closed it and stop reading it. I don't care really. Do what you want.

 

[CJNator]

Lol he is different though, not like those 10 minute ab people. He really only stick to the actually science of stuff(when it comes to gear and lifting)and I like a lot about what he talks about since he sticks to science not bro science.

 

[jake1986]

I seen something once with him saying that SARMS were just hype.

I've seen alot of YouTube videos and I haven't learned anything from any of em. Except for how crazy Jay Cutler looks when he's in motion. (not in a magazine). Dudes a monster!


And how funny he sounds when he talks lol

 

[Audioph1x]

Subscribed to see the hatred for that JuggaHoe

 

[BlockBuilder]

People only hate this guy because he speaks the truth. Also to the response above SARMS are hype. They don't do nearly what people expect them to do and they can be very suppressive. Will I still use them? Of course but I'm aware they are over hyped. I like this guy Jason blaha and the NattyOrNot crew. If I would have found these dudes earlier in my lifting I would have sifted through the pathetic lies fake naturals spout at every chance they get. Fake natural bodybuilders don't help ANYONE and the crap they spew deserves o be exposed

 

[Audioph1x]

You're right; he knows his stuff. I just wish he had a court reporter standing by so I could read instead of listen.

 

[CJNator]

I agree is it hard to listen to the videos lol. I learn a ton of stuff from him, only if I implemented most of what he says. One think I do that he says is just count calories, counting macros helps but not to the extent people say it does. I'm glad he is calling out fake natties, when I was younger I always looked at those guys expecting those types of gainz but now I know I wouldnt be able to achieve that naturally but that won't stop my hard work.

 

[max d]

I like a lot of his stuff but the dude is a non-responder to creatine!?!?! Ha I didn't know that was possible. However I have to agree with him that most of the supps being pushed are not worth it. Its annoying to see people in forums push crap that costs and arm and leg and is minimally beneficial, if at all.

 

[Audioph1x]

Non responder to creatine? Lol. Post link to this vid please.

 

[T-Bone]

What is his educational background?. What degrees does he hold?. Why would you listen to him?. What makes him trustworthy?

 

[CJNator]

What is his educational background?. What degrees does he hold?. Why would you listen to him?. What makes him trustworthy?

I believe he states his educational background early in his channel. Also I watch a bunch of people just for fun but he is the only one not trying to sell **** and he doesn't seems like someone full of **** like others that just run there mouth about things and ways of lifting. If he makes a statement he backs it up with actual information, not "its works for me so it works" or "you're just not working hard enough". He acknowledges people for have different genes and bones structure but doesn't do it in a way that gives then an excuse.

Basically I like him because he uses logic and science plus isn't a bull**** artist.

 

[T-Bone]

Alright then. I guess I just don't understand this obsession with youtube people. You young guys talk about these people like they are well known or some kind of celebrities or something. I always have to google to find out who these people are. Maybe it's a just a younger generation thing of people that grew up with the internet....
thebigt do you have favorite "youtube people"?.

 

[CJNator]

Alright then. I guess I just don't understand this obsession with youtube people. You young guys talk about these people like they are well known or some kind of celebrities or something. I always have to google to find out who these people are. Maybe it's a just a younger generation thing of people that grew up with the internet....
thebigt do you have favorite "youtube people"?.

Its probably because YouTube people seem so eccentric and friendly that it draws people that need guidance in the gym, most young people would be intimidated or too shy to stick up a convo in the gym due to it being looked down a pon IMO. They are just a small source of info for me.

 

[thebigt]

Alright then. I guess I just don't understand this obsession with youtube people. You young guys talk about these people like they are well known or some kind of celebrities or something. I always have to google to find out who these people are. Maybe it's a just a younger generation thing of people that grew up with the internet....
thebigt do you have favorite "youtube people"?.

T-Bone....what's a youtube?

seriously I would rather read my info than watch some clown on a stupid, poorly made video. I think it is either because young people don't know how to read or have to have everything spoon fed to them because they are too darned lazy.

 

[T-Bone]

T-Bone....what's a youtube?

seriously I would rather read my info than watch some clown on a stupid, poorly made video. I think it is either because young people don't know how to read or have to have everything spoon fed to them because they are too darned lazy.

Thanks for responding bigt!. I knew I couldn't be the only one that feels this way!

 

[bighulksmash]

good vid haha

 

[123abcabcabc]

Going to be that guy who agrees with the video. I couldn't care less about your evomuse super jizz.

 

[Driven2lift]

99% of internet gurus (you-tubers too) are crap.
They will say one thing, one time, that I think has no foundation to have been said and I'm done that video and with them.

There are good channels, with honest guys doing their best to keep others informed of new information relevant to the industry.

But the written word from trusted sources will always prevail overall.

 

[jakz]

90% sups are crap..Protein,daa,creatine,bcaa,multivit,fishoil and dmaa are some natty supps that really help though..but alot of stuff are bs..Anyone remember Beta Ecdysterone for eg.

 

[kisaj]

I hate videos. Give me something to read.

 

[jakz]

I distinctly remember when a certain company launched an ad in 2011/12 claiming that combining their pre and post workout produced better results in 4 weeks than Deca...I recall a few supp factories claiming stuff like this

 

[Tiocfaidh]

What is his educational background?. What degrees does he hold?. Why would you listen to him?. What makes him trustworthy?

barely any.

this is the trend in the youtube fitness world.

1. create drama. call someone or an industry out.
2. get view and subscribers.
3. earn money from ads by the same people you call out.
4. get signed by the same people you claim to hate.
5. rinse and repeat.

jason blaha
jerry ward
marc lobliner
etc..
etc..
etc...

they all tell the "truth"

(while making money selling you supplements)

 

[CJNator]

barely any.

this is the trend in the youtube fitness world.

1. create drama. call someone or an industry out.
2. get view and subscribers.
3. earn money from ads by the same people you call out.
4. get signed by the same people you claim to hate.
5. rinse and repeat.

jason blaha
jerry ward
marc lobliner
etc..
etc..
etc...

they all tell the "truth"

(while making money selling you supplements)

1. Would you might tell us how you found out he has barely educational background?

2. You generalization may be correct somewhat but if your talking about a specific person, you should get your facts straight. He honestly probably knows the same amount or more then the most educated on this website.

3. He create no drama, he calls out fakes natties only because its unethical what they do to the fitness industry to the young crowd or generally.

4. Yes he may make some money from ads but **** who wouldn't.

4. He sells no supplements, he may post up articles on Marc lobliners website but that's it.

Not defending him, just don't spout **** like you know it all

 

[youngandfree]

I seen something once with him saying that SARMS were just hype.

I've seen alot of YouTube videos and I haven't learned anything from any of em. Except for how crazy Jay Cutler looks when he's in motion. (not in a magazine). Dudes a monster!


And how funny he sounds when he talks lol

Jay Cutler is huge. Years ago he did a guest posing at a small show my buddy did. Got to shake his hand of course. My buddy's aunt was standing next to him, he was in a string tank, and just staring jaw open at his arms. He tells her, "you can touch it, it won't bite". I fell out. That was around the year prior to him sitting out that Olympia the first time. My wife got me one of his videos, and he doesn't eat with metal utensils. He doesn't like them getting hot from the hot food. Just weird.

 

[youngandfree]

Last I checked, any sort of marketing includes hype and exageration, no matter what the product is.

 

[UCSMiami]

I recall becoming extremely aggressive and intensively focused with some supplements. I think they do work to wring that extra bit of mojo from a workout. But I do not care for the after effects so I discontinued using them. Now find the inner mental strength to go that extra every session.

 

[HardB0iled]

His bicep pose at the end made the video completely legit.

 

[LiftWithDonuts]

http://youtu.be/SQKpoRFKWJA

This is why I like watching Jason blahas videos

 

[NoAddedHmones]

1. Would you might tell us how you found out he has barely educational background?

2. You generalization may be correct somewhat but if your talking about a specific person, you should get your facts straight. He honestly probably knows the same amount or more then the most educated on this website.

3. He create no drama, he calls out fakes natties only because its unethical what they do to the fitness industry to the young crowd or generally.

4. Yes he may make some money from ads but **** who wouldn't.

4. He sells no supplements, he may post up articles on Marc lobliners website but that's it.

Not defending him, just don't spout **** like you know it all

Are you kidding? I remember when this mup appeared years ago in bb.com nutrition section, read a few stickies on nutrition basics, IIFYM etc and all of a sudden is a guru and calls out others.

His swipe at Layne was hilarious to say the least...

 

[CJNator]

Are you kidding? I remember when this mup appeared years ago in bb.com nutrition section, read a few stickies on nutrition basics, IIFYM etc and all of a sudden is a guru and calls out others.

His swipe at Layne was hilarious to say the least...

I do recall that, I believe he was merely challenging Layne which led to some legal ****. I don't think it was ment to cause drama but people do eat that **** right up lol.

 

[thebigt]

I do recall that, I believe he was merely challenging Layne which led to some legal ****. I don't think it was ment to cause drama but people do eat that **** right up lol.

look at Donald trump...people love drama!!!

 

[NoAddedHmones]

I do recall that, I believe he was merely challenging Layne which led to some legal ****. I don't think it was ment to cause drama but people do eat that **** right up lol.

Telling someone who has a PHD in the area he was researching that his research is dubious when you have no qualifications at all. And calling him out for not being natty with no rationale for it isn't causing drama. right?

 

[bighulksmash]

I just damn near drained the vein on my leg readin this cluster of jibberish.

 

[CJNator]

Telling someone who has a PHD in the area he was researching that his research is dubious when you have no qualifications at all. And calling him out for not being natty with no rationale for it isn't causing drama. right?

He states he only calls out people who claim natural but obviously sent because they are ruining the young generation that want to lift. Can imagine a young lifter looking up to a someone that isn't natural, he or she will be try to reach that level doing the same **** they do but get no where because science won't allow it.

Also just because someone has a PHD in an area he researches doesn't mean he is more knowledgeable then someone who doesn't have one. There are personal trainers that look like **** and don't even know proper form or personal trainers that look amazing and still don't know proper form. I'm going to try to find what Jason's education background is, I do recall him stating it.

Just because something causes drama doesn't mean it is intentional.

 

[Audioph1x]

Well let us take a step back here for a second.. YouTube celebz thrive on drama. Das what creates all dem viewz!

 

[thebigt]

He states he only calls out people who claim natural but obviously sent because they are ruining the young generation that want to lift. Can imagine a young lifter looking up to a someone that isn't natural, he or she will be try to reach that level doing the same **** they do but get no where because science won't allow it.

Also just because someone has a PHD in an area he researches doesn't mean he is more knowledgeable then someone who doesn't have one. There are personal trainers that look like **** and don't even know proper form or personal trainers that look amazing and still don't know proper form. I'm going to try to find what Jason's education background is, I do recall him stating it.

Just because something causes drama doesn't mean it is intentional.

drama does serve a purpose, it draws attention to and creates interest in topics that people otherwise would not tune into. of course, this works both ways, some topics are best left collecting dust!!!!

 

[T-Bone]

Well let us take a step back here for a second.. YouTube celebz thrive on drama. Das what creates all dem viewz!

It's funny, we've got/get some youtube kids coming on here. They join just to get more followers and pimp their youtube channels constantly. LMAO these guys know who they are.

 

[Audioph1x]

It's funny, we've got/get some youtube kids coming on here. They join just to get more followers and pimp their youtube channels constantly. LMAO these guys know who they are.

Lol there are definitely some in this thread. You know who you are

 

[thebigt]

It's funny, we've got/get some youtube kids coming on here. They join just to get more followers and pimp their youtube channels constantly. LMAO these guys know who they are.

it's hilarious how insecure kids are these days, lol.

 

[UCSMiami]

But OP has 25XX+ posts. A regular. Well, I just read the title and gave my opinion. Did not follow the link.

 

[T-Bone]

it's hilarious how insecure kids are these days, lol.

Soooo true. I almost think if they weren't able to document and take pictures and videos of themselves working out, they wouldn't work out at all.

 

[thebigt]

Soooo true. I almost think if they weren't able to document and take pictures and videos of themselves working out, they wouldn't work out at all.

selfies, lol

 

[bighulksmash]

Jerry Springer

 

[CJNator]

But OP has 25XX+ posts. A regular. Well, I just read the title and gave my opinion. Did not follow the link.

Its all good, we are all intitled to express our opinion

Soooo true. I almost think if they weren't able to document and take pictures and videos of themselves working out, they wouldn't work out at all.

Funny thing is he just released a video on how boys/young men now in days don't know how to be men due to lack of a masculine role model lol its was pretty insightful.

 

[thebigt]

Its all good, we are all intitled to express our opinion



Funny thing is he just released a video on how boys/young men now in days don't know how to be men due to lack of a masculine role model lol its was pretty insightful.

too many single moms TRYING to raise boys!!! the demasculinazation of America, imo!!!

 

[T-Bone]

selfies, lol

Know what gets me???? Seeing those threads pop up that say, "Estimate my body fat". You know there is some insecure boy-child that posted it looking for I don't know what. I know what's in the those threads, but you won't catch me clicking on them, because I really don't want to look at child porn. Their constant need for validation is sickening.

 

[CJNator]

too many single moms TRYING to raise boys!!! the demasculinazation of America, imo!!!

Lol he actually said that in the video, I agree. It seems pretty logical when thinking about it but.

 

[T-Bone]

but.

 

[T-Bone]

butts.