L. Rea's claim to "the holy grail" of natural supps...
- 04-05-2005, 01:41 AM
L. Rea's claim to "the holy grail" of natural supps...
Originally Posted by Author L. Rea
Interesting stuff...whatdya'll think?
- 04-05-2005, 01:58 AM
This is in reference to HOT. There is a thread about it in the supplement section.
- 04-05-2005, 01:59 AM
Cool, thanks to the heads up!
04-05-2005, 10:20 AM
Oh come on...400-600mg of test/week? I don't think so. This L. Rea guy must've accidently went to school for marketing and not biochemistry....lol, must've got the room numbers on campus mixed up....lol
I also think his books and articles are garbage as well. Hey, I'm just stating my opinion here. His ideas are totally laughable in "Building the Perfect Beast."
04-05-2005, 10:29 AM
While I have never read BTPB, I know a quite a few people have used it with great resualts.Originally Posted by lifted
04-05-2005, 03:12 PM
I disagree. I've had more success then I ever had running the run of the mill 12 week cycle. I actually keep most of my gains and don't really get shutdown.Originally Posted by lifted
04-05-2005, 03:30 PM
Seriously? The ideas that he brings up just seem so out of the ordinary and sometimes they go against science and physics. I just could never bring myself to screw up a cycle, and possibly ruin that time that could've been spent gaining...call me paranoid I guess.Originally Posted by jminis
Do you mind elaborating a bit more on that 12 weeker? I'm curious now...lol.
04-05-2005, 03:59 PM
So what exactly is the supplement he is referring to? Someone mentioned "HOT".. what exactly is it?
04-05-2005, 04:07 PM
04-05-2005, 05:12 PM
LOL your allowed to have your opinion and some of his idea's are a little out there but his info has always panned out for me. And the thing about the 12 weeker I was being sarcastic meaning I don't run the average cycle (12 weeks anymore) I have been running short blasting cycles that usually last around 40days. If you look in the cycle's info section, I have a few of mine posted with results all the way through PCT. Take a look if your really interested.Originally Posted by lifted
04-05-2005, 07:29 PM
Yep...that's the one. I'm curious to try it out. It would definately be good for my sales if it does work though Hahaha.Originally Posted by HUGE
04-07-2005, 01:32 PM
Just because his ideas are not the same as everyone elese doesn't mean they are bogus. Quite the opposite in my opinion. Thats one of the books still on my list to purchase. I already have his other book and I enjoy it very much. You'll never get anywhere if you just believe what eveyone else believes just because its the majority.Originally Posted by lifted
04-07-2005, 01:41 PM
You got some kind of hard on for me or something? Every post I make, you're right there behind me telling me why I'm wrong. You're a annoying little girl, please stop and please grow up.Originally Posted by T-Bone
04-07-2005, 02:00 PM
Don't take it personal lifted. T-Bone is abrasive with everyone. LOL
04-07-2005, 04:32 PM
thick skin is a prerequisite around here sometimes...Originally Posted by lifted
04-07-2005, 06:27 PM
I'd love to hear how people respond to HOT, though. Is it a PCT-type product, or just an "alternative to PH/PS's" thing?
04-07-2005, 07:28 PM
The premise of cranking up test levels with AI(s) is sound, they all appear to do that by reducing E, the question is wether there is a rebound in E2 levels after a few weeks , like Letrozole appears to do in the study I've seen on healthy males, and where will one's nat test levels be after the cycle?
Until I see Bloodtests of HOT users indicating otherwise, I remain skeptical that one can fool the body for more than a few weeks without the body compensating negatively up and down to rebalance itself to it's setpoint.
04-07-2005, 07:40 PM
I don't know the science around Hot, But I will say I always enjoyed his collumn in MD.
Rogue, You have a PM at Avant Forums.
04-07-2005, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by LCSULLA
DAMN If we get many more posts like this we will have to start a Tbone fan club.
04-07-2005, 10:06 PM
Music to my earsOriginally Posted by T-Bone
Everyday I go in the gym and lift someone is telling me that my training methods are odd and/or ineffective b/c I'm not training "enough" or something like that.
However, I've keep outgrowing everyone I know and fast. (I don't know where they come off having the gall telling me how to train when they "were" bigger than me....)
If I followed the standard training routines that everyone else did, I might end up like the guys I feel bad for who I see around the gym lifting the same amount of weight and staying the same size day in and day out.
04-07-2005, 10:22 PM
I get that same **** from my older friends that "used" to lift. They're all skinny as **** too. All of 'em seen me gain like crazy in the past 2-3 years and they're gonna tell me how to train. And then if I brush 'em off and tell 'em that what I'm doing is just fine, they take it as an insult. Where do these guys get off? People are the worst, I tell ya.Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
04-07-2005, 10:27 PM
I hear ya, bro. If you're gaining, keep it up and tell them to ****-off! That's what I do, in a polite manner
04-08-2005, 10:02 AM
Fella's the proof is in the pudding!
It's funny how most peope you see in the gym always look the same and they'll swear they got some hot routine to pack on the muscle. LOL
04-08-2005, 10:37 AM
That's a big reason why I don't go to gyms anymore. I remember when I was rehabing my knee I was starting with very low weight leg extensions, and some meathead comes over and loudly proclaims, "You're not using enough weight!" He pulled my pin out and set it to some ridiculous weight that would have ripped my knee to shreds had I tried to lift it at that point. That pissed me off so damn much. Not that I could have done much except hop after him and try to kick his ass with my one good leg.
04-08-2005, 10:53 AM
Same with me. I invested in an entire home gym. SO much more convenient this way. Although I still need more DB's and they can get expensive very quickly.Originally Posted by CDB
I remember this one time, this older guy came up to me while I was doing some skullcrushers with HEAVY ASS weight. He's like in his 70's or so. Right in the middle of my set, he starts introducing himself and starts trying to give me pointers. Mind you this is while I'm in the middle of my set. I get done, and totally didn't even get what I was trying to get due to this ******* conversating. I put the weight down, look at him and say, "Hey pal, I don't come to here to make friends. I come here to train and that's it. You totally just ****ed my last set up. Show some respect and get the **** outa my ear!!" Well it turned out that this older guy was related ot the gym owner. Right when I was leaving to go home, the owner stops me and asks me about telling this old guy off. I said yeah, he was being totally ****ing annoying and ruined my sets. He told me that I wasn't allowed here anymore because I'm abusive to poeple.....LOL, I told him to shove it and that I wasn't coming back ot his pansy gym anyways...lol. Gotta love the meatheads.
04-08-2005, 12:13 PM
i cant wait till the clown sees this one..
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04-08-2005, 01:06 PM
Yep. I agree with you guys. If I don't ask how to do an exercise or if I don't ask about anything, don't try to give me advice thats not wanted. I get some idiots like that at my gym but most are nice. I work out in an "average joe" type gym though.
04-08-2005, 01:30 PM
My gym is my home. Nice set of free weights and a jump rope. Except when I work out with my friend Mike on Sundays, then my gym is his basement, and I workout while he tries to help me find Jesus by doing Yoda impersonations. I don't know how I end up meeting and hanging out with such people, but I'm used to it by now.
Someone mentioned dumbbells getting expensive, I just buy the olympic handles and use those. After an initial investment of around 40 bucks all you really need is a set of four plates for each weight you're likely to stick on there. Very convenient. That said I do have a nice set of hexagonal dumbbells. They only go up to 50lbs though.
04-08-2005, 01:55 PM
LOL @ lifted.
I get those guys, but I'm pretty laid back and I don't usuallly tell them to shove off. I just don' listen and say "well, nice meeting you, I"m gonna go finish my workout". hahaha. It works.
04-08-2005, 06:04 PM
04-08-2005, 06:40 PM
I usually don't like posts that rip on other people in the gym but I just have to say this.
I went to this new gym I joined. It is sort of old school and small. About 1500 sq feet. Well I made the mistake of talking to this out of shape guy cause I felt sorry for him. He is about 225lbs and just that fat all over pudgy look with a major spare tire around his waist.
So he tells me he just started last week I said oh wow are you really sore. He looks at me like I am crazy and says NO! I mean I just started HERE last week. I have been a member at Gold's for a long time. OOpppppps didn't mean to insult him.
So then he starts telling me that I need to do more sets and then he tells me in COMPLETE detail every set and every weight he just did for triceps and it totals up to 24 sets!!!!!!!!!! I just said WOW you are the man I could never do that many, and I went into another room to stretch. I think I will start going at a different time
04-08-2005, 06:50 PM
Hahaha....24 sets, eh? The only person I can think of who actually grew off of that much was Arnold. He must be genetically gifted
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