drinking beer?

  1. drinking beer?


    whats everyones thoughts on drinking beer/liqour when trying to bulk or cut....or in general for that matter
    how much or how little?

    h19


  2. mmm....i read/heard/ask about this question quite alot my friend. you gotta know that alchohol is empty cals ...obviously if you're a drinker, you rather be in a bulk than a cut. but i still think anything is ok (or pretty close to it) in moderation. i say this b/c bodybuidling isnt my life, just a hobby. so if im with my boyz at a club or bar, i wont hesitate to down a couple if fun times are ahead. (by that i mean i wont say to myself,..."wait, i shouldt have this cuz this gonna hurt my progress") sorry i dont have a scientific backings on your ?.....

  3. Good post sage...

    Also alcohol damages the liver and causes it to put thin, loose wraps on cholesterol, eventually these wraps will come off before the cholesterol can be deposited safetly and will back up and condense on the walls of arteries and over time will lead to cardio vascular disease, heart attack etc. These LDL cholesterol's are bad for the body.
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  4. that's good info YJ - but thats not all...

    alcohol substantially increases estrogen, and decreases testosterone

    and

    slows down protein synthesis 20%

  5. As far as I understand it, as long as there is alcohol to be processed in your body, you will not make any sorts of progress. In other words, protein synthesis will be halted until the body can remove the toxins from itself... Then, of course, there are the negative after effects such as decreased test, etc

  6. And to add to the list of bad things.. all alcohols are poisons. Some just more so than others... Do you ever wonder what made the first guy want to see what that fremented stuff in a barrel tasted like? Sorry weird thought there

  7. Originally posted by YellowJacket
    Good post sage...

    Also alcohol damages the liver and causes it to put thin, loose wraps on cholesterol, eventually these wraps will come off before the cholesterol can be deposited safetly and will back up and condense on the walls of arteries and over time will lead to cardio vascular disease, heart attack etc. These LDL cholesterol's are bad for the body.
    Engish.. YJ.. english!!!! hehehe. Talk to ya..

  8. Originally posted by true_c
    that's good info YJ - but thats not all...

    alcohol substantially increases estrogen, and decreases testosterone

    and

    slows down protein synthesis 20%
    there's sort of the scientific backing i was looking for..

  9. Good post and my first time reading it. I knew that it was a poison and that it was empty calories. Thanks for bringing out the other info bros.

  10. beer good!!!
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  11. I'll have a few drinks about once a month, probably more than I should. I'll only pack them away for very special occasions though (such as Friday or Saturday's j/k)

  12. If you're going to do a cycle, it's best to avoid the stuff; for all the reasons mentioned above!
    A unit or two of alcohol a day shouldn't do too much harm to most, but will have negative effects on those who need peak performance - let's face it- we need to keep ourselves in building mode all the time when we are serious about things.
    I'll generally have a couple of drinks 3 times a week, except when I plan ahead and go for a cycle - then I don't touch the stuff.
    A cycle costs money - the PHs etc, extra protein, liver protect, oestrogen inhibitors etc - why waste the money by having a beer?
    BTW, you're better off with a spirit or wine - for a given amount of alcohol, beer has the highest count of calories.

  13. Good thread Hamper! My views are just leave the beer and booze alone. As it will only hurt and hamper the building of the body along with cause probelms for the liver and kidneys as well.
    While on cycle it will slow/or stop the building while the body gets rid of the alcohol. It's just best to leave it totally alone and stick to water and such. The affects on the body can have long term effects also,I should know. Being a ex-drinker the liver can only take so much and while it sounds good at the time the long term is what we have to look at also.
    Peace

  14. Just curious as to your thoughts on this, but there is now overwhelming support from the medical community for moderate drinking and the benefits that it can provide the heart, etc.. It's been called the double edge sword because in moderation they support it but that could lead to abuse which is damaging. What other the substances are we aware of that are great in moderation but bad when abused?
     

  15. Originally posted by windwords7
    What other the substances are we aware of that are great in moderation but bad when abused?
     
    Water (dehydration, over-hydration), sodium (water retention, but raises blood pressure, I think), E/C (requires little explanation, I think), and...oh yes, juice.

  16. man i love working my biceps with 12 oz. curls though

  17. Originally posted by Sean
    sodium (water retention, but raises blood pressure, I think
    Sodium doesn't necessarily raise blood pressure, but is not good for those that already have high blood pressure. If you drink enough water and balance with potassium you will be fine, the two work together to pump water in and out of cells (I think that's the right explanation)

  18. Bah, beer is bad, replace it with Kool- Aid...look what happens when we all drink Kool-Aid...
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  19. YJ I think you've finally lost it lol

    Peace

    Bone

  20. Originally posted by Bone
    YJ I think you've finally lost it lol
    Im not sure I ever had it brother!

    This is the problem:
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  21. Originally posted by hamper19
    whats everyones thoughts on drinking beer/liqour when trying to bulk or cut....or in general for that matter
    how much or how little?

    h19
    How much or how little aren't the questions. The question is how optimally healthy do you want your body/lifestyle to be? If alcohol consumption is important to you then it's a tradeoff, no biggie. Enjoy. Otherwise, don't drink and know you're that much ahead.

  22. Originally posted by YellowJacket


    Im not sure I ever had it brother!

    This is the problem:
    ha...you gots to stop smoking them bowls my friend. ive said my views on beer/alchohol previously, however like to add that beer isnt good tasting for me. Never enjoyed the taste of most beer w/ few exception like fat tire and strongbow (more an ale/cider than beer). Nothing to brag about, but i prefer "girly" drinks and shot whenever i do have a few with the boys or females...(ie. LIT, fruity martinis and daquiris, buttery nipple,etc) Might be the only dude in the entire bar who orders a malibu with DIET coke.

  23. I see ya, and raise ya a few YJ

    ManBeast
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    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  24. Originally posted by ManBeast
    I see ya, and raise ya a few YJ

    ManBeast
    MB? is that a pic you took yourself??

     

    I'm just curious

     

    LG.

     
    Read This Book!!: Anabolic Steroids and the Athlete by William N. Taylor M.D.

  25. MB- That makes me moist

  26. I think i set off the wrong example when I posted pictures of what I thought were dried up dandalions, so maybe we better stop posting pictures of bud since it is illegal

  27. Originally posted by Lifeguard


    MB? is that a pic you took yourself??

     

    I'm just curious

     

    LG.

     
     

    Nah, I sent him that pic from my stash.

  28. Ive always been curious. Why are only the crystals on the expensive weed???

  29. They indicate a high content of THC, so high that it can't be contained inside the plant and leaks out as a sappy resin, and in the curing process dries to form crystals, which are often refered to as "kif" if collected and sold.

    ManBeast
    -Saving random peoples' nuts, one pair at at time... PCT info:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/192992-pct-what-why.html
    -Are you really ready for a cycle? Read this link and be honest:
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/191120-checklist-before-thinking.html
    *I am not a medical expert, my opinions are not professional, and I strongly suggest doing research of your own.*

  30. YJ, I kind of figured you were a burner.

    To the original topic. I drink on occasion. When I do it is balls out.

  31. Originally posted by labrad
    YJ, I kind of figured you were a burner.
    I dont really smoke, I promise I jsut joke about it a lot, I get drug tested often at work not to mention getting stoned isnt too appealing to me......

  32. Originally posted by YellowJacket


    I dont really smoke, I promise I jsut joke about it a lot, I get drug tested often at work not to mention getting stoned isnt too appealing to me......
    No worries YJ, I'll burn it for you
  

  
 

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