Disturbing use of Homeland Security Agency
- 01-26-2005, 12:03 PM
Disturbing use of Homeland Security Agency
This was posted on another board and it's pretty f'd up if you ask me.
Better sign up for goose stepping lessons.
- 01-26-2005, 12:45 PM
- 01-26-2005, 12:58 PM
Originally Posted by Lean One
01-26-2005, 01:47 PM
I did mean scary in a pathetic sort of way.Originally Posted by Y2Jversion1
01-26-2005, 02:12 PM
ODD is all I can say. Scary-pathetic is a great explanation as well.
Don't they have borders to seal instead of harassing small business owners for having the wrong types of toys?
Hmmm.....UBL with a-bomb's or harass small business owners...hmmm....which one fo these should homeland security be more concerned with?
01-26-2005, 03:14 PM
Why is this surprising? Everytime you give the government more power they will use it, period. And they'll use it in any which way they damn well please. Did it neer occur to anyone besides me and few other right wing crazies to ask why, when the threat is foreign terrorists, the government needed more power to spy on and coerse its own citizens? They've always got some new buggaboo to frighten the citizens and when they use it to get more power and that power is used against regular people doing nothing wrong and not the buggaboo, everyone turns around says, "Garsh, we didn't think of that!"Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00
01-26-2005, 03:56 PM
Remember it was a Right wing Congress and President that put all of this in motion.
01-26-2005, 04:07 PM
The repubicrats and demicans are officially one in the same. We've got a "people problem". Our citizens aren't doing anything to stop this from happening. We've got to get moving on something or else we're screwed no matter who is in office.
"Power tends to corrupt, absolute power corrupts absolutely"-- Lord Acton, Our govn't is moving toward absolute power. We don't have a vote on important issues anymore, soon enough we'll lose our voice.
01-26-2005, 04:12 PM
you are right on that fact K.. Wonder how long it will be till the 2nd American Revolution?
01-26-2005, 04:31 PM
Yup. Which is why I don't vote for either party, as they're both intent on making me less free and taking more of my money. To me their motives don't matter, they're equally scummy.Originally Posted by Matthew D
01-26-2005, 05:13 PM
When can you get me on Television? J/KOriginally Posted by Matthew D
01-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Wow! Thank god we have an administration that reduces government interference in the lives of private cit....uh, what's that you say? You say this administration CREATED this program and Patriot Act?
01-26-2005, 08:44 PM
They didn't create the Patriot Act, and even if they did as far as I know almost every congressman voted for it, so it's equally on the heads of both parties. The act itself is a combination of various expanded powers, some necessary and common sense and some very questionable, that law enforcement has been trying to get through congress for a long time. I'd say liberal organizations like the ACLU have a lot to do with this thing getting passed, because if they didn't **** themselves at every piece of such legislation no matter how innocuous it was, people would take them more seriously when something truly dangerous did come up for a vote.Originally Posted by Chippewa
01-26-2005, 08:51 PM
well you know how it is, when *god* is in government we need to have *faith* that power dosent go corrupt yeeehawwwOriginally Posted by Chippewa
01-26-2005, 09:05 PM
goddamn i hate this government ... i actually hate all governments, but this one in particular really irks me
01-26-2005, 10:27 PM
I know, I know--I wasn't trying to make a heavy political comment, just a quick joke.Originally Posted by CDB
But I have to disagree with the ACLU thing. I'm no fan of their or anything, but Jesus--they've ripped the Patiot Act to shreds every chance they've had.
And technically, the Bush administration OPPOSED the creation of a Department of Homeland Security, until political pressures forced them to accept it (and then take CREDIT for it). So I'm not actually crediting/blaming them for its origins.
01-26-2005, 11:40 PM
That's because you don't live in France or GermanyOriginally Posted by glenihan
I hate this government a lot. But I hate most of the other ones even more (but, I must add...we're catching up might fast since the 50's).
01-27-2005, 01:19 PM
If they didn't spend their time trying to get the 10 commandments out of every building in the country and burning every reference to God, people might take them more seriously.But I have to disagree with the ACLU thing. I'm no fan of their or anything, but Jesus--they've ripped the Patiot Act to shreds every chance they've had.
01-27-2005, 01:21 PM
The actually charged a strip cub owner for money laundering under the patriot act about a year ago.
01-27-2005, 01:39 PM
The problem is they rip everything to shreds every chance they get. If they weren't flipping out over people saying the pledge of allegiance in school or Cub Scouts gathering in public parks, I might give them more credit.Originally Posted by Chippewa
01-27-2005, 01:43 PM
It's kind of like the boy who cried wolf. As bad an idea as this sounds- they need to have let the little **** go so that when a major concern arisesw, they can make an impact.Originally Posted by CDB
01-27-2005, 06:25 PM
No doubt. 100% agreed.Originally Posted by jarhead
01-27-2005, 09:17 PM
Exactly. Some of the stuff they do is just plain idiotic. Some stuff I agree with in principle, but I have to wonder how muh free time they have on their hands. Then when something big comes along and they try and do something no one takes them seriously. I guess it's a problem with every group that has an extreme ideological bent to it.Originally Posted by jarhead
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