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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    i prefer the sti over the evo for a number of reasons.
    Would be interested to hear your thoughts big guy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philshred View Post
    Hey thanks for letting me know! So far the Evo i my number 1 pick Its been one of my favs for a very long time. I blame The Fast and the Furious haha
    Are you planning on getting an X, or 8/9?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philshred View Post
    Would be interested to hear your thoughts big guy!
    well for simpler reasons the market where im at doesnt favor evo's, huge resale cost for extremely high miles, also every one i knew that owned one had problems occur when launching even at low rpm's. lastly i think its completely over rated but thats just my personal opinion. im more of toyota and bmw guy these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Are you planning on getting an X, or 8/9?
    Planning on an x. My price range is around 30k and with that I can find an mr in very good condition with no more then 35,000km Im scouting atm for one with no mods and color wise blue or silver.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philshred View Post
    Planning on an x. My price range is around 30k and with that I can find an mr in very good condition with no more then 35,000km Im scouting atm for one with no mods and color wise blue or silver.
    Boo to the MR..haha
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech

    well for simpler reasons the market where im at doesnt favor evo's, huge resale cost for extremely high miles, also every one i knew that owned one had problems occur when launching even at low rpm's. lastly i think its completely over rated but thats just my personal opinion. im more of toyota and bmw guy these days.
    You mentioned a good point that it's crucial to purchase a vehicle favored in your area (market) I wouldn't buy the evo if I knew the customer service was crap in my area. Do you know what exactly was the problem when launching and if it was covered by the warranty? Thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Boo to the MR..haha
    Haha is that due to the slower 0-60? Because from what I understand it's faster on a track.
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    i have read and heard of numerous gearbox problems but cant answer the warranty question. browse the evo forums for a bit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philshred View Post
    Haha is that due to the slower 0-60? Because from what I understand it's faster on a track.
    only if you over night parts from japan and have a motec systems exhaust
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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech
    i have read and heard of numerous gearbox problems but cant answer the warranty question. browse the evo forums for a bit.
    Sure thing, will do!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philshred View Post
    Haha is that due to the slower 0-60? Because from what I understand it's faster on a track.
    No, because it is auto..lol Eff that.
    Quote Originally Posted by hvactech View Post
    i have read and heard of numerous gearbox problems but cant answer the warranty question. browse the evo forums for a bit.
    THe gear box is very, very solid. The issue was the early 8 transfer cases. They switched to an LSD in 05. You can get a shep built tcase for under $1k.

    The evo is a very capable car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds View Post
    No, because it is auto..lol Eff that.

    THe gear box is very, very solid. The issue was the early 8 transfer cases. They switched to an LSD in 05. You can get a shep built tcase for under $1k.

    The evo is a very capable car.


    good deal....
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    hahahah evo vs sti thread. i luv these
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    just in case it matters the back seats are almost unusable . checked one out awhile ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mich29
    just in case it matters the back seats are almost unusable . checked one out awhile ago.
    Very true if we're both speaking about the brz
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    the price is the biggest deal breaker though maybe 22 to 24 is reasonable. for these
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    Quote Originally Posted by mich29
    the price is the biggest deal breaker though maybe 22 to 24 is reasonable. for these
    You dot think 26 is reasonable?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    You dot think 26 is reasonable?
    after taxes and etc plus the 0-60 time is not impressive compared to a mustang and a few other cars in the same price range.the price isn't awful though I'd probably get a camaro or the Hyundai genesis for around the same price instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mich29

    after taxes and etc plus the 0-60 time is not impressive compared to a mustang and a few other cars in the same price range.the price isn't awful though I'd probably get a camaro or the Hyundai genesis for around the same price instead.
    I'll look into them
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    Quote Originally Posted by mich29 View Post
    after taxes and etc plus the 0-60 time is not impressive compared to a mustang and a few other cars in the same price range.the price isn't awful though I'd probably get a camaro or the Hyundai genesis for around the same price instead.
    It isn't built for straight line racing. Put them both on a track(road course) and they are very close. Except the BRZ would be 10x more fun to drive than a base mustang/camaro. Both of those feel like pigs in comparison.

    They car wasn't mean't to be fast. It was meant to bring back the light weight, well handling, fun to drive sport compact cars of back in the day.

    It also is going to hold value 10x better.

    EBF- In that price range and your climate, just grab an 11' WRX. They are super fun to drive, and do well in the snow. Do a few bolt-ons and call it a day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    It isn't built for straight line racing. Put them both on a track(road course) and they are very close. Except the BRZ would be 10x more fun to drive than a base mustang/camaro. Both of those feel like pigs in comparison.

    They car wasn't mean't to be fast. It was meant to bring back the light weight, well handling, fun to drive sport compact cars of back in the day.

    It also is going to hold value 10x better.

    EBF- In that price range and your climate, just grab an 11' WRX. They are super fun to drive, and do well in the snow. Do a few bolt-ons and call it a day.
    I will certainly look into that as well. Lots of options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    It isn't built for straight line racing. Put them both on a track(road course) and they are very close. Except the BRZ would be 10x more fun to drive than a base mustang/camaro. Both of those feel like pigs in comparison.

    They car wasn't mean't to be fast. It was meant to bring back the light weight, well handling, fun to drive sport compact cars of back in the day.

    It also is going to hold value 10x better.

    EBF- In that price range and your climate, just grab an 11' WRX. They are super fun to drive, and do well in the snow. Do a few bolt-ons and call it a day.
    had a feeling you'd say that.good points
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    Best way to talk down car salesmen people

    I'm goin in tomorrow for deposit on the wrx as its better long term for space, and size.

    The brz it's small like the g35 which I'm very uncomfortable in so that's out
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    Best way to talk down car salesmen people

    I'm goin in tomorrow for deposit on the wrx as its better long term for space, and size.

    The brz it's small like the g35 which I'm very uncomfortable in so that's out
    New? Or used?
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    Brand spankin new
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    Just need to drive te 13. Drove the 12 unless the chasis is differ or whatever I'll e good to go.
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    Look up the invoice online and go in with a price in mind. I would not pay above that, and aim for less.

    If you can get a better deal on a 12 do that.

    New 2013 Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX Price Quote w/ MSRP and Invoice
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Look up the invoice online and go in with a price in mind. I would not pay above that, and aim for less.

    If you can get a better deal on a 12 do that.

    New 2013 Subaru Impreza Sedan WRX Price Quote w/ MSRP and Invoice
    The 12 premium is actually 28.7 with 3000 miles

    The 13 premium is 29.5 and I wanna talk him down

    The 13 base I got for 27.6

    But I like I said I hav to see the size difference between the two I have been googling all night
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    There are no changes from 12-13.. Are you getting a hatch or sedan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    There are no changes from 12-13.. Are you getting a hatch or sedan?
    Sedan

    The pice that's on the link is almost 3 k lower for the base sedan

    How did they get those numbers I'm having trouble navigating the site
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    http://www.subaru.com/mobile/vehicle...wrx/index.html

    Start price msro I assume for baseboard what's listed

    So I don't understand how it is 3 k more where I am going.

    Do I negotiate based on the Subaru website
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    http://www.subaru.com/mobile/vehicle...wrx/index.html

    Start price msro I assume for baseboard what's listed

    So I don't understand how it is 3 k more where I am going.

    Do I negotiate based on the Subaru website
    Are there any options on the car you looked at? Are you looking at the invoice price on that site or MSRP?

    You wanna try to get at minimum invoice IMO. If they won't do it, you can certainly find a dealer who will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Are there any options on the car you looked at? Are you looking at the invoice price on that site or MSRP?

    You wanna try to get at minimum invoice IMO. If they won't do it, you can certainly find a dealer who will.
    No idea I was looking at the 25.4 price on the site u sent me and the Subaru site

    I assumed its the base. The premium is 1200 more

    First time buying a car. Need so much help it's crazy
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    Quote Originally Posted by EBF Inc View Post
    No idea I was looking at the 25.4 price on the site u sent me and the Subaru site

    I assumed its the base. The premium is 1200 more

    First time buying a car. Need so much help it's crazy
    What that site does is compile sales data and tells you where most people are getting their cars, so where you kinda wanna pay. That is what the chart represents.

    MSRP is on top/side which is $26,565. Which matches up with Subaru's website.

    I have owned just about 30 cars. lol I am a car whore.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds

    What that site does is compile sales data and tells you where most people are getting their cars, so where you kinda wanna pay. That is what the chart represents.

    MSRP is on top/side which is $26,565. Which matches up with Subaru's website.

    I have owned just about 30 cars. lol I am a car whore.
    Negotiate for me? Lol.

    So I'm goin to ask fr the premium for 28? If they are pricing at 29,500?
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    Just tell them you want the car for invoice. I am getting an invoice(with destination included) 27.4-27.7 So I would aim there. Just tell them you want the car for invoice. Period. Again if they won't do it, there are PLENTY of dealers who will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Reynolds
    Just tell them you want the car for invoice. I am getting an invoice(with destination included) 27.4-27.7 So I would aim there. Just tell them you want the car for invoice. Period. Again if they won't do it, there are PLENTY of dealers who will.

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    Not far. Prolly 15 miles I'd have to gps is.
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    21.7 miles

    Wrx premium
    Factory invoice is 27,793.

    Average paid is 28,298

    ask for 27,700

    Ultimatum for him or no?
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    Absolutely. Email metric and work a deal with them too. Tell them you're ready to buy if they'll sell you a car at invoice.
  

  
 

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