15 states petition to leave the USA

[howwedo107]

http://m.now.msn.com/15-states-start...-leave-the-usa

Interesting....I doubt it will happen but what's everyone's take on this? Another civil war? What's going on in our country?!?!

[hvactech]

Yep, thats my thoughts

[benmayro]

After George Bush won in '04, 11 states petition to leave. It is actually quite common after elections. Since how easy and free it is to make a petition and how easy it is for other people to find it.

[cswalczakny]

After George Bush won in '04, 11 states petition to leave. It is actually quite common after elections. Since how easy and free it is to make a petition and how easy it is for other people to find it.

The Obama administration actually set up a website (wethepeople.gov I believe) to make it easier for people to file official petitions to the federal government online.

[crispycrown]

Apparently Texas reached the threshold of petitions and its washingtons turn to issue a reply. Which will obviously be no.. Idc what you think about the gov but were still the best goddamn country out there.

There's a petition to make those who signed deported. I may go sign it

[cswalczakny]

Apparently Texas reached the threshold of petitions and its washingtons turn to issue a reply. Which will obviously be no.. Idc what you think about the gov but were still the best goddamn country out there.

There's a petition to make those who signed deported. I may go sign it

I think once they get 25k signatures it gets a response.

I love this country, flaws and all. All the people who want to ceseed should be given some land and then we should issue a strict trade embargo against them and put up a huge fence so they can't come crawling back.

[ThunderHumper]

awsome thread. i dont get why all these cry babies are petitioning to leave the country. wtf would they do if they got cut from the money flow?

[cswalczakny]

awsome thread. i dont get why all these cry babies are petitioning to leave the country. wtf would they do if they got cut from the money flow?

Lol

[crispycrown]

I think once they get 25k signatures it gets a response.

I love this country, flaws and all. All the people who want to ceseed should be given some land and then we should issue a strict trade embargo against them and put up a huge fence so they can't come crawling back.

Agreed man. Something this country has seemed to forget with all the candidate bashing and voting **** lately, is that this country is one of the best in the world. You can do anything you want with enough hard work, I mean for Christ sake we have so much food that over 60 percent of Americans are obese. We have out ups and downs but I'm proud to be an American through and through.

[JayStang]

Tough situation. I think it's a way for a lot of folks to vent their frustrations on both sides.

I live in Texas and a lot of folks (myself included) don't like the way the federal government is run. Specifically the amount of debt that is being run up. It doesn't matter which party is in power, although BO has set records on how fast he can spend money. 6 trillion in 4 years!!

So the view from Texas is that we are a state with a budget surplus. Low unemployment and enough guns to defend the state easily. Our own power grid. We are an oil producing state and we have a large coastline. Could this state secede and stand on its own....yes. Will it? Of course not, because we are a stronger state when we are joined with the other 49 states.

I do think there will be a huge outcry when states like IL and CA go begging to the federal government to bail them out. That will be really ugly. These states will have to do that eventually because they are so far in debt that they'll have no choice. IMO

Just my 2cents.

[tattoopierced1]

http://m.now.msn.com/15-states-start...-leave-the-usa

Interesting....I doubt it will happen but what's everyone's take on this? Another civil war? What's going on in our country?!?!

People are too lazy to overthrow the government today.

[jimbuick]

Well interestingly enough the state of Texas is currently the 15th largest economy in the world. Also if you actually read the petition it brings up some valid points in relation to our bill of rights being trampled upon by a federal government that is larger than it was ever supposed to be. (NDAA, Patriot act etc.)

[jimbuick]

Also I believe it's closer to 40 now.

[cswalczakny]

Also I believe it's closer to 40 now.

There are active petitions in all 50, i believe. It's all symbolic though, no state will ever be allowed to leave the union.

[DAdams91982]

I think once they get 25k signatures it gets a response.

I love this country, flaws and all. All the people who want to ceseed should be given some land and then we should issue a strict trade embargo against them and put up a huge fence so they can't come crawling back.

Lol on trade embargo and huge fence.

We can't even do that against illegal immigrants, yet going to do it to previous citizens?

This is obviously a statement being made to washington more than a real request.

Regardless... maybe we can just do what the last president did to the states wishing to become their own independent union and kill them all.

[DAdams91982]

awsome thread. i dont get why all these cry babies are petitioning to leave the country. wtf would they do if they got cut from the money flow?

What money flow? You mean the money flowing out of my pocket?

[DAdams91982]

Agreed man. Something this country has seemed to forget with all the candidate bashing and voting **** lately, is that this country is one of the best in the world. You can do anything you want with enough hard work, I mean for Christ sake we have so much food that over 60 percent of Americans are obese. We have out ups and downs but I'm proud to be an American through and through.

Yes it is the best country in the world.. but our path is not headed toward a viable future. Hard work is no guarantee anymore in the US for a thriving life... now it is more of the people you know.

I personally am not okay with 50% of my taxes going to the government next year as is projected.

And there are petitions from all 50 states now.. but Texas has a huge number.. but they were their own nation well before joining the US.

[DAdams91982]

Tough situation. I think it's a way for a lot of folks to vent their frustrations on both sides.

I live in Texas and a lot of folks (myself included) don't like the way the federal government is run. Specifically the amount of debt that is being run up. It doesn't matter which party is in power, although BO has set records on how fast he can spend money. 6 trillion in 4 years!!

So the view from Texas is that we are a state with a budget surplus. Low unemployment and enough guns to defend the state easily. Our own power grid. We are an oil producing state and we have a large coastline. Could this state secede and stand on its own....yes. Will it? Of course not, because we are a stronger state when we are joined with the other 49 states.

I do think there will be a huge outcry when states like IL and CA go begging to the federal government to bail them out. That will be really ugly. These states will have to do that eventually because they are so far in debt that they'll have no choice. IMO

Just my 2cents.

This!

This is the reason texas is on the forefront.. because they arent a welfare state. They still put in daily hardwork to earn their keeps and do little to suck on the government tiet.

Again, Texas thrived well before joining the union.

[DAdams91982]

There are active petitions in all 50, i believe. It's all symbolic though, no state will ever be allowed to leave the union.

Not without quite a bit of death, as seen in our past.

Wanna leave? Here, have a bullet.

[howwedo107]

Maybe we will be like Europe and be all individual countries lol