Milo Hobgoblin
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Why oh why must they write this ****.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/author1.htm
When are athletes going to realize that although Type II fiber is more responsive to anabolic hormones its JUST as responsive to catabolic hormones. Studies like this are CRAP until they can be performed on a much larger basis over a period of at least a year. Of course you're going to see results in eight weeks. you dont have to be captian fucking obvious or have a PHd to know this.
If our bodies worked the way this study (or the author hopefully implies) you would have 500lb humans running around who could bench press 2000 lbs and squat 3000 lbs.
We could become so muscular that our skeletal structure could no longer support the mass.
Why do people dance around the obvious? Our internal organs... skeletons.. etc.. were desinged to support a 150 to 200lb (at best) bodyweight consisting of a mixed amount of type I and type II fiber. Few ethnicities may support more (i.e some Nordic breeds) and some MUCH less (some asian/ or pygmie breeds). But it took extreme differences in environmental factors to produce these differences. (i.e. HUGE calorie intake due to high fat meets in Nordic climes... differences in hunting patterns.. climate differences.)
This is a product of natural selection... we evolved as hunter gatherers. Are you going to tell me that high intensity training is going to overcome a few hundred thousand years of fine tuning? PUUULLEEESSEEE.
ROFL can you imagine. A 250lbs hunter gatherer with a larger percaentage of Type II tissue. You'd last a FUCKING week on the open plain. Not only would the EXTREMELY limited calorie intake IMMEDIATELY strip off all that excess and unneeded muscle tissue... You would starve trying to maintain it. Then after you died due to being ourtun by some slow ass tiger (yes they are slow runners in distances) Your tribe would probably eats whats left because your calorie value would be immense.
the constant running,, hunting, chasing and being chased would create a catabolic environment that would torture you.
Your joints would decay twice as fast due to excessive wear from the extra load.
What bodybuilders and wieght lifeters dont see.. is that they are their own product of natural selection. The ones who tend to succeed due to results over time ARE genetically blessed to benefit from wieght training. The stick with it and tend to see more results over time. You KEEP growing... its slows down to almost a standstill after some time... but with great trainign and diet you can keep the growth artificially elevated for quite some time.
How many of you have ten friends who quit working out because high intensity training just didnt yield the results they hoped for for every one who stuck with it because he saw consistent gains in muscularity. Because the average person IS NOT going to get that muscular from natural training.
FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU who can bench 375 lbs naturally and did it after only a few years of training there are a 1000 humans out there that will NEVER bench 315lbs after ten years of training. Most athletes fail to see this because they want to think their results are a product of their intensity or their uber training program developed in the back woods of Bulgaria by some gay monk. They fail to see it because they think the average person doesnt try hard enough... and/or all their friends are athletes comaparing their 375lb bench presses. They fail to see it because they think they are "better". genetically they are...
Gyms bring all the freaks/exceptions/genetically gifted peeps together. thats why it may SEEM like its natural to have all this muscle and endurance. IT ISNT. You see all these guys in the gym with great bodies, you hang out and talk... blah blah blah. But there are so many out there who just WILL not get half the reults over time that you do.
Most of you on this board are the EXCEPTION NOT the rule.
Even those of you who may "think" you're suffering because you're still struggling with 315. you're not. Dont you realize how much force you'r producing... you not even using all you;re muscle... MAYBE 60-70% and you pushing over 300lbs.
If you guys had any idea how long it takes the average person to get to ths kind of muscularity some of you have... you'd cry. Most could NEVER do it. Their bodies will just not produce the proper hormone ratios.
BTW to whatever genius wrote this study... ANDROGENIC RECEPTOR DENSITY IS A PRODUCT OF ESTROGEN. WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN DEVELOP ANDROGENIC SIDE EFECTS AT EXPONENTIAL RATES RELATIVE TO MEN.
Okay rant off.
http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/author1.htm
When are athletes going to realize that although Type II fiber is more responsive to anabolic hormones its JUST as responsive to catabolic hormones. Studies like this are CRAP until they can be performed on a much larger basis over a period of at least a year. Of course you're going to see results in eight weeks. you dont have to be captian fucking obvious or have a PHd to know this.
If our bodies worked the way this study (or the author hopefully implies) you would have 500lb humans running around who could bench press 2000 lbs and squat 3000 lbs.
We could become so muscular that our skeletal structure could no longer support the mass.
Why do people dance around the obvious? Our internal organs... skeletons.. etc.. were desinged to support a 150 to 200lb (at best) bodyweight consisting of a mixed amount of type I and type II fiber. Few ethnicities may support more (i.e some Nordic breeds) and some MUCH less (some asian/ or pygmie breeds). But it took extreme differences in environmental factors to produce these differences. (i.e. HUGE calorie intake due to high fat meets in Nordic climes... differences in hunting patterns.. climate differences.)
This is a product of natural selection... we evolved as hunter gatherers. Are you going to tell me that high intensity training is going to overcome a few hundred thousand years of fine tuning? PUUULLEEESSEEE.
ROFL can you imagine. A 250lbs hunter gatherer with a larger percaentage of Type II tissue. You'd last a FUCKING week on the open plain. Not only would the EXTREMELY limited calorie intake IMMEDIATELY strip off all that excess and unneeded muscle tissue... You would starve trying to maintain it. Then after you died due to being ourtun by some slow ass tiger (yes they are slow runners in distances) Your tribe would probably eats whats left because your calorie value would be immense.
the constant running,, hunting, chasing and being chased would create a catabolic environment that would torture you.
Your joints would decay twice as fast due to excessive wear from the extra load.
What bodybuilders and wieght lifeters dont see.. is that they are their own product of natural selection. The ones who tend to succeed due to results over time ARE genetically blessed to benefit from wieght training. The stick with it and tend to see more results over time. You KEEP growing... its slows down to almost a standstill after some time... but with great trainign and diet you can keep the growth artificially elevated for quite some time.
How many of you have ten friends who quit working out because high intensity training just didnt yield the results they hoped for for every one who stuck with it because he saw consistent gains in muscularity. Because the average person IS NOT going to get that muscular from natural training.
FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU who can bench 375 lbs naturally and did it after only a few years of training there are a 1000 humans out there that will NEVER bench 315lbs after ten years of training. Most athletes fail to see this because they want to think their results are a product of their intensity or their uber training program developed in the back woods of Bulgaria by some gay monk. They fail to see it because they think the average person doesnt try hard enough... and/or all their friends are athletes comaparing their 375lb bench presses. They fail to see it because they think they are "better". genetically they are...
Gyms bring all the freaks/exceptions/genetically gifted peeps together. thats why it may SEEM like its natural to have all this muscle and endurance. IT ISNT. You see all these guys in the gym with great bodies, you hang out and talk... blah blah blah. But there are so many out there who just WILL not get half the reults over time that you do.
Most of you on this board are the EXCEPTION NOT the rule.
Even those of you who may "think" you're suffering because you're still struggling with 315. you're not. Dont you realize how much force you'r producing... you not even using all you;re muscle... MAYBE 60-70% and you pushing over 300lbs.
If you guys had any idea how long it takes the average person to get to ths kind of muscularity some of you have... you'd cry. Most could NEVER do it. Their bodies will just not produce the proper hormone ratios.
BTW to whatever genius wrote this study... ANDROGENIC RECEPTOR DENSITY IS A PRODUCT OF ESTROGEN. WHY DO YOU THINK WOMEN DEVELOP ANDROGENIC SIDE EFECTS AT EXPONENTIAL RATES RELATIVE TO MEN.
Okay rant off.