Pro card or not

  1. Member
    Nuteboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Age
    42
    Posts
    39
    Answers
    0

    Pro card or not


    I was having a chat with the owner of the gym I attend. We were talking about some of the “up and coming� amateurs. We discussed how many have had a hard road ahead of them yet with perseverance they manage to earn their pro card.

    Then, the owner of the gym made a statement that shook me. He said “what good is it for a guy to turn pro when he cannot do anything in the pro ranks?� In other words, why win your pro card when you’ll be a bad professional bodybuilder and possibly place very low to guys like Dexter, Ronnie, Darrem, Melvin, Jay and Markus.

    What do you guys think? Is it better to not get a pro card IF the guy will be a struggling pro?

  2. Board Supporter
    DieTrying's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Age
    31
    Posts
    909
    Answers
    0

    It makes sense. Ronnie Coleman has been in this game for a LONG time, I don't see anybody taking his title. Theres probably a better chance of him throwing up his liver.

    I guess if I were a bodybuilder it would be cool to be able to say "I am a pro". Wheres BigPete? I'm sure hes got a good opinion.
  3. Running with the Big Boys
    Matthew D's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Posts
    5,019
    Answers
    0

    New pros make their money from guest posing, photo shoots, and other stuff... and hell yes it would a struggle.. I would be up in the air about getting it or not
    •   
       

  4. Sponsor
    Board Sponsor
    bigpetefox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,686
    Answers
    0

    Moi? Good opinion?

    Seriously, in my situation I only care about having the ability to follow through with a plan, and make it happen.. I DO NOT want to go pro, if I for some odd reason became pro, I'd be ok with it.. Hell, I'm not even National Qualified yet, might not ever happen.. My take on competitive bodybuilding is simple:

    It's a full-time job in itself, eating and training, resting, marketing yourself so Prolab or MuscleTech can help with some bills, training others, even to a lower extent of selling gear/your body and getting ready for shows.. Why would I put my 14yrs of training on the line for a piece of pewter and plastic? Some guys do have real jobs (Ronnie and Richard Jones are cops), while others just do what they can (remember Chris Duffy?).. I personally don't want things to not happen for me in this field.. If I get on a 6-page ad for a diabetic coma-inducing creatine drink, congradulate me, I did it.. If I end up on stage in the best condition ever, hands-down the overall winner, shake my hand..

    Just don't say to me, "Pete! You really should go pro, brother!"..

    I'd rather look the part than play it, the game is way too dirty in those ranks..
  5. Member
    Nuteboy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Age
    42
    Posts
    39
    Answers
    0

    Interesting BigPete. I'm curious. How much does a pro ( who ranks out of the top six) make in money? I know everything is based on promotion, what contract the guy has and etc. but anyone has a "rough" estimate guess?

    Are pro's ( that place out of the top six) making $80,000 a year, $100,000 a year or way less?

    2nd part to my question. After reading what BigPete said I'm curious. How dirty does a guy has to get to make it within the top six? Are these guys taking "loads" of "super" supplements and large portions of protein to maintain their monstrous size?
  6. Sponsor
    Board Sponsor
    bigpetefox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,686
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuteboy
    Interesting BigPete. I'm curious. How much does a pro ( who ranks out of the top six) make in money? I know everything is based on promotion, what contract the guy has and etc. but anyone has a "rough" estimate guess?

    Are pro's ( that place out of the top six) making $80,000 a yeár, $100,000 a year or way less?

    2nd part to my question. After reading what BigPete said I'm curious. How dirty does a guy has to get to make it within the top six? Are these guys taking "loads" of "super" supplements and large portions of protein to maintain their monstrous size?
    Well, most pro's spend a good amount to enter the shows, get their "supplements" for them, and travel.. that could be around $15,000 on the low side.. Too bad there's no pros here to verify that amount, I'm sure it's not uncommon..

    To get in the top 6, it takes alot of everything, including lots of as you say "super" supplements, protein, training, diet, genetics.. Too many variables on that one..
  7. Registered User
    Jayhawkk's Avatar
    Stats
    5'8"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Age
    39
    Posts
    12,791
    Answers
    0

    UNles of course you're pushed harder by having stronger competition. then going Pro might give the push you need or you just may be funding the top 5 in every contest with your entry fees
  8. Registered User
    shyboy's Avatar
    Stats
    6'0"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Posts
    93
    Answers
    0

    I think the point is that right now there is a core group of "it" guys leading the pros. Until things change new blood is gonna have a hard time making especially if you are not a 280-300 lbs freak. And if anyone thinks these guy's "super supplements" are anywhere like what you & me take you are dillusional. It's a total juice regime IMO.

    I have a friend who was thinking of going the nationals then pro route & started doing modeling on the side. He makes ridiculously more at that, at a lighter & more manageble weight, than he did in competitions. I think bigpetefox has the right idea. What comes, comes. Enjoy it.
  9. Board Supporter
    DieTrying's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Age
    31
    Posts
    909
    Answers
    0

    On the topic of how much these guys make, I read in a Flex that the night before the Mr. O there is a debate between judges and the athletes about how much money the winner should get..That true or just more Flex bull****?
  10. Registered User
    PreMier's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Age
    31
    Posts
    68
    Answers
    0

    I thought that Ron Coleman retired from the police force a few years back... you know, conflict of interest(cop using gear).
  11. Sponsor
    Board Sponsor
    bigpetefox's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2002
    Posts
    3,686
    Answers
    0

    Quote Originally Posted by PreMier
    I thought that Ron Coleman retired from the police force a few years back... you know, conflict of interest(cop using gear).
    He's on reserve, kinda like a auxillary patrolman..
  12. Registered User
    PreMier's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  205 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jul 2004
    Age
    31
    Posts
    68
    Answers
    0

    Oh. ok.
  13. Registered User
    jjjd's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    703
    Answers
    0

    fwiw, there is no conflict with a cop using gear. only a conflict with a cop using gear ILLEGALLY

    maybe ronnie bought in mexico (he certainly lives close enough) and shot up there, or maybe he has a script from a very progressive HRT clinic

    he obviously uses gear, but using/possessing gear is NOT illegal. in many circumstances as described
  14. Board Supporter
    MaDmaN's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  230 lbs.
    Join Date
    Oct 2003
    Age
    55
    Posts
    990
    Answers
    0

    I hate to say this but Bodybuilding has seen better days.The shows that I have been to recently barely had enough competitors to have a show.The same 3 old guys were in the mens open,masters 35 and up,then 45 and over were the same people.I remember in the late 70's and early 80's bodybulding's golden era shows were everywhere I remember when AL Beckles won the New England Grand Prix 1981

    I here YA Pete when you say all those years invested.even though I took 8 years off I had trained for 20 years (dam I am old)...Hey lets face it, I think we all would like a pro card,but not to fly all over the world and compete.I do what I do because there is something about bodybuilding that I love.I love competing,I love the smell back stage of the mint julip.I love also the shows that give you raisins and honey back stage..Why I chose bodybuilding(I should say it choose me) with no money to be made in it and we all know its expensive to compete on a regular basis...So im content to do this as a hobby.....more fun that way.
  15. Registered User
    BigBadBootyDady's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2004
    Age
    35
    Posts
    171
    Answers
    0

    If your gonna be a no-body pro I would think it would be better to stay amiture (big fish, little pond or little fish, big pond) I'll garuntee Dave Palumbo makes alot more money than most pros do.
  •   

      
     

Similar Forum Threads

  1. To Rub or not to Rub
    By Big Joe in forum Anabolics
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 03-11-2012, 12:09 PM
  2. Replies: 6
    Last Post: 08-26-2011, 01:54 AM
  3. Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-22-2011, 06:55 PM
  4. Eat unhealthy food, or not eating at all?
    By bigbadboss101 in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 11-30-2002, 10:08 AM
  5. Too wake up or not to wake
    By 8 pak man in forum Weight Loss
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 11-01-2002, 06:24 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Log in

Log in