Fake personal training certificates ?

[Markusrulezzz]

got a friend who purchased a fake personal training certificate for $300, **** looks legit ! he is in an athletic shape and he knows his **** also, he got a job at LA FITNESS... he is a son of a bitch

Is doing that a felony or a crime ? can you go to jail for that?

 

[Trauma1]

got a friend who purchased a fake personal training certificate for $300, **** looks legit ! he is in an athletic shape and he knows his **** also, he got a job at LA FITNESS... he is a son of a bitch

Is doing that a felony or a crime ? can you go to jail for that?

Are you kidding me? Yes, that's a crime...

Tell your friend to clench his butt and hope he isn't exposed for being a damn fraud...

Earn it legally; otherwise, you deserve what happens...

 

[Markusrulezzz]

I thought worst case scenario he would get fired

 

[oogaly_boogal]

...He could get a real one for only 200 more. That being said, a lot of trainers do not have certifications at all.

 

[kanakafarian]

lol funny sh!t! Pretty sad actually lol

 

[Born Of Fire]

Wow, that's damn lazy of him. He can be sued from any client that he trains for falsifying his credentials, which can get to a great extent, expensive. He could have earned one for the cost of a fake one; although, it seems to me that your friend would rather take the easy road, which goes on his character.

 

[bdcc]

Ethically this is possibly the most horrible thing I have ever read on this site.

I hope it is a joke.

 

[CoorsLight126]

lets say a client gets injured and wants to sue the gym, now they find out his certificate was never even legit? He could ruin the rest of his life from that move, and with as many people s sue happy nowadays as they are, I would strongly urge him to quit and go get a real one

 

[CRUNCH]

If he hurts somebody, him and the gym will get sued. In the end, the gym would probably settle out of court to avoid the puplicity and he'd end up off the hook. The gym could go after him. The gym would have a hard time though as they failed to do their due diligence and research the certification to see what they are about. The judge would call them idiots for not looking into it.

 

[MindSweap]

At least he has a certificate , fake though
But most of the trainers dont have it.

 

[Born Of Fire]

At least he has a certificate , fake though
But most of the trainers dont have it.

It's okay if a trainer does not have one; however, IT IS important if they claim to be certified and clearly are not.

 

[StangBanger]

its NOT illegal unless the certificate says its from an actual existing organization.

 

[Born Of Fire]

its NOT illegal unless the certificate says its from an actual existing organization.

It IS illegal to misleadingly represent yourself as, "Certified." The law is very clear about false representation.

 

[StangBanger]

It IS illegal to misleadingly represent yourself as, "Certified." The law is very clear about false representation.

yes, but I can start a company and then print a certified cert for it and be legal.

for example... Dairy Queen can legally print a CERTIFIED ICE CREAM EATER... legally.

I can start a company say called " StangBangin Fitness" and then print a STANGBANGIN FITNESS CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER...

100% legal.

misleading... yes... legal - YES.

 

[Markusrulezzz]

Banger, can you provide some sources ?

and what if you just get a certification with a company that does not even exist ? like

BallSack Certified Personal Trainer

 

[bdcc]

Can someone please clarify for me as I don't know the laws in America.

You can create a certificate from a fake or unrecognised company, that happens here as well.

How can people work as Personal Trainers if they have no certificates at all? When I interviewed Trainers they always had to bring them with them and we have a governing body we can check their status with.

 

[StangBanger]

like bdcc says.. you have to check the source of the certificate and what their protocol is for certification.

Ill pull some sources and post them...

the system is so **** with no governing body is the problem.

for example
the Ordained Minister document I ordered online. its 100% legal, I took it to the courthouse and registered and can now legally perform marriages. It cost me a few dollars, and its honestly bull**** but in the end.. its real according to the law, I am an ordained minister.

 

[MidwestBeast]

Total felony. I've seen guys locked up for like 30 years for fake PT certs; crazy stuff...

 

[RoadBlocK]

Ethically this is possibly the most horrible thing I have ever read on this site.

I hope it is a joke.

Really?? I guess we see things differently, competing in natural contests while faking drug tests, switching pee, filtering somebody elses urine, fooling doctors into prescribing you medications that you want, faking/manipulating blood work, selling illegal drugs, smuggling, etc, seem worse to me than fake credentials, Im just sayin.

 

[joedf]

like bdcc says.. you have to check the source of the certificate and what their protocol is for certification.

Ill pull some sources and post them...

the system is so **** with no governing body is the problem.

for example
the Ordained Minister document I ordered online. its 100% legal, I took it to the courthouse and registered and can now legally perform marriages. It cost me a few dollars, and its honestly bull**** but in the end.. its real according to the law, I am an ordained minister.

Yeah, there are several certifications online for around 50 bucks that you can get. They all have e books to download, and all have final exams, and of course a very professional looking certificate. There are even some pro body builders that have their own. All legit too. Actually kinda goofy spending 300 for a fake one when it's so easy to get a "real" one.

Without a Licensing Board, it will always be that way.

 

[Markusrulezzz]

Total felony. I've seen guys locked up for like 30 years for fake PT certs; crazy stuff...

That's bull**** !

you assault a cop, you get 1-10 years ! you kill a person, you get from 1 to 20 most of the times, you get a fake certificate you get 30 ? loll yea rite

 

[jgassen15]

I hate how everyone's bagging on the guy for being unethical. Do I think it's wrong to do, yeah sure do. However, how hypocritical is it that most guys WITH certification are lazy, fat, unintelligent, texbook curls, bench press, and squat losers. It's ridiculous that a lot of genius guys out there in the area of health and fitness are stuck working bull**** jobs and these degenerate idiots work at nice gyms.

Go back and do it the right way, but I don't think there's any way you'll get called out unless oen of your clients gets hurt. Just my two cents.

 

[jgassen15]

That's bull**** !

you assault a cop, you get 1-10 years ! you kill a person, you get from 1 to 20 most of the times, you get a fake certificate you get 30 ? loll yea rite

and by assault a cop they mean get within 10 feet of him or call him a name. boom, felony.

 

[bdcc]

Really?? I guess we see things differently, competing in natural contests while faking drug tests, switching pee, filtering somebody elses urine, fooling doctors into prescribing you medications that you want, faking/manipulating blood work, selling illegal drugs, smuggling, etc, seem worse to me than fake credentials, Im just sayin.

I don't tend to hang around in the anabolics section much so don't pay attention to those type of threads.

If he has faked a certificate to work in a job he is not qualified for then to me it is the equivalent of being fraudulent and stealing client's money. Why doesn't he go the whole nine yards and get a fake chiropractor's certificate?! He would earn more...

 

[Markusrulezzz]

I don't tend to hang around in the anabolics section much so don't pay attention to those type of threads.

If he has faked a certificate to work in a job he is not qualified for then to me it is the equivalent of being fraudulent and stealing client's money. Why doesn't he go the whole nine yards and get a fake chiropractor's certificate?! He would earn more...

because with that, the chances of getting caught is more ! you can get away with fake PT certificates as alot of people are dumb and believe PTs, you just give your client a diet that you memorized from the internet and teach them how to do curls and how to do douggie... I mean he is not a trainer at venice golds gym where everyone wants to get yoked and get knowledge about aas

 

[bdcc]

I wasn't actually being serious about the chiropractor certificate lol, it was just an exaggerated example of why I see it as unethical.

I cannot speak for the standard of trainers in America. I am not particularly proud of the average trainer in England.

I hope they do more than teach a client curls and give them a memorised diet lol.

I might PM a mod and ask if he can automatically subscribe me to any thread Markus creates, they are always so entertaining.

 

[Markusrulezzz]

Trainers don't know **** in America ! )) of course not all of them but most of them especially trainers at 24hrs fitnesses... goddd I can't believe when I was a noobie I spent 700 dollars on a trainer (

lol Doctors too, no offense but most American doctors suck, they get paid by insurance companies to get you back in there.

 

[kanakafarian]

Trainers don't know **** in America ! )) of course not all of them but most of them especially trainers at 24hrs fitnesses... goddd I can't believe when I was a noobie I spent 700 dollars on a trainer (

lol Doctors too, no offense but most American doctors suck, they get paid by insurance companies to get you back in there.

You spent $700 on a trainer?! Dang, that explains it all now! lol jk

 

[Markusrulezzz]

You spent $700 on a trainer?! Dang, that explains it all now! lol jk

yea when I was like 15 and didn't know nothing about the gym... mommy paid tho ! and the trainer was a hot milf, she flirted with me,so I thought she would seduce me and I got more sessions with her thinking she will sex me (( **** didn't happen, that was her way of getting money ((

 

[kanakafarian]

yea when I was like 15 and didn't know nothing about the gym... mommy paid tho ! and the trainer was a hot milf, she flirted with me,so I thought she would seduce me and I got more sessions with her thinking she will sex me (( **** didn't happen, that was her way of getting money ((

lol so she used the stripper method on you and you fell for it? lol

 

[Iron Warrior]

It's only illegal if he gets caught. BTW, getting a legit certificate isn't that difficult so why bother with getting a fake one ? If he gets caught with that then good luck trying to get a good job down the road.

 

[RoadBlocK]

lol so she used the stripper method on you and you fell for it? lol

He was 15, cut him some slack, when I was 15 if there a chance for a piece of ass, I dont think theres anything I wouldnt have done.

 

[kanakafarian]

He was 15, cut him some slack, when I was 15 if there a chance for a piece of ass, I dont think theres anything I wouldnt have done.

Cut him some slack? But it's Markus?! lol :laugh2:

 

[Born Of Fire]

Funny, but not true. First of all, in order to LEGALLY have a business, you have to prove your credentials to obtain a business license to operate. And in order to show that you can certify someone else, you would have to prove first, that you have a certification to teach the material. For example: you cannot become CPR certified from someone who is not legally certified to do so.

yes, but I can start a company and then print a certified cert for it and be legal.

for example... Dairy Queen can legally print a CERTIFIED ICE CREAM EATER... legally.

I can start a company say called " StangBangin Fitness" and then print a STANGBANGIN FITNESS CERTIFIED PERSONAL TRAINER...

100% legal.

misleading... yes... legal - YES.

 

[RoadBlocK]

Cut him some slack? But it's Markus?! lol :laugh2:

Oh, I dont know, if you guys got some kind of banter goin or whatever, I was just sayin at 15 I can totally get it. Carry on.

 

[StangBanger]

Funny, but not true. First of all, in order to LEGALLY have a business, you have to prove your credentials to obtain a business license to operate. And in order to show that you can certify someone else, you would have to prove first, that you have a certification to teach the material. For example: you cannot become CPR certified from someone who is not legally certified to do so.

100% true... CPR is a different story, there is a regulatory board involved in that.

my ordained minister status is 100% true and legal - I did it to prove to someone that religion is a joke and they will ordain anyone. Its legal because the clerk of the court accepted my certificate (not fooled, they know its bull**** but legally legitimate) and I am registered with Palm Beach County as an Ordained minister with the legal ability to perform marriages.

It depends on WHAT you are claiming, if no governing board then nothing anyone can do.

I cant claim to be a certified paramedic, fireman, etc... because of the government regulations. There are no govt regulations on calling myself a certified personal trainer... its the customer resposible for verifiying that its certified from a credible source. ANd I own 3 business's with all nec. credentials.... one is a Racing company... i can legally hand out a certified race car driver certificate to a 2 year old.... why? no regulation.


like I said unethical but for a LOT of things, 100% legal and true.

 

[MidwestBeast]

That's bull**** !

you assault a cop, you get 1-10 years ! you kill a person, you get from 1 to 20 most of the times, you get a fake certificate you get 30 ? loll yea rite

My bad.

I meant 25-29 years.

 

[EasyEJL]

Banger, can you provide some sources ?

and what if you just get a certification with a company that does not even exist ? like

BallSack Certified Personal Trainer

Its true, the bigger question is will any reputable gym hire you with having your "Ballsack certified professional trainer"? no, they only hire people with certifications from a few specific places.

Some gyms don't care though, and will hire without certifications anyhow.

 

[RoadBlocK]

So what are some good online certificate courses to actually take and worthwhile to get? What ones are legit and considered good credentials for a pt job?