Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

[Boatcop1]

Detectives look at all the evidence at place..its just another piece Im adding. The guy lived there, he had something to say, we should all at least listen.




I supplied you with government unclassified "Operation Northwood" documents. You did not read them. The government wanted to do this in the 60's and blow up Chicago and other cities and blame it on Fidel Castro. The plan was on Kennedy's desk but he refused, but he is dead now and no-one can speak for him. There is a reason he is dead. These unclassified documents are proof that there is no limit to how low the government will go.

I will supply you again here.....As you clearly can read, the government WANTED TO SABOTAGE OUR OWN MILITARY BASE AND KILL OUR OWN TROOPS TO GET US INTO WAR!!! They also wanted to create back then would I would call a "Cuba version of Alqueda to terrorize Americans." This was the governments plans...they wanted to do this.

Operation Northwoods - Proposals to have the CIA attack terrorism in US cities and elsewhere.
Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





If you have much trouble about conspiracies, why dont you listen to what Kennedy was trying to warn America about...

President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech


Also, the government unclassified the Gulf on Tonkin incident, 60,000 Americans dead based on a false flag attack.

I will supply you again here....

Also the Gulf on Tonkin incident that cost the lives of 60,000 Americans of my previous generation. This was a false staged attack on the USA, and we started a war over that.
Gulf of Tonkin incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They lied about the Iraq War and WMD's....how many thousands of troops perished due to yet another lie.

If you want me to pull more lies I can do it....



Witnesses at ground zero on the day of 9/11, and because Im calling them a witness they are disqualified? Government agents speaking out dont count? Come on man...just because it sounds crazy it doesnt mean they are discredited because they are against what your beliefs are.

If you want expert credentials I can supply them for you. As a matter of fact I have the credentials over over 1,500 Architects and Engineers, and Military personal speaking out about 9/11.

Do you want to attend a Architects and Engineers meeting?
Events:
Events

By the way, Where did all the rubble go? 9/12/2001

For what your casting, 1500 "experts" some Youtube videos and your hypothesis is not enough to sway the burden of proof in your favor. Wether you like it or not, agree or disagree the (vast) majority of people in the world agree that the preponderance of evidence concludes that what happend on 9-11 actually happend. Time has passed and we have evolved. We think more, we dream more, we are most definitly more intilectual now than then but just because he have access to this medium does not make it correct!

I hate government and I work for them! But "YOU" come on man! Unplug, take a step back and really think of what your charging!

I will look for it, but a few years ago a buddy of mine sent me a vid of a study group where a guy invited 20 truthers to discuss 9-11 and he flipped the script and got face to face with these people (non confrontational) and when they did not have videos to rely on and could only rely on their own argument it was just sad! One guy did it, and they're were times where i actually felt bad for the truthers becasue they looked and sounded so silly when they couldn't answer simple questions. Its just silly to me thats all.


YES I MISPELLED WORDS, SO WHAT?

[ax1]

For what your casting, 1500 "experts" some Youtube videos and your hypothesis is not enough to sway the burden of proof in your favor. Wether you like it or not, agree or disagree the (vast) majority of people in the world agree that the preponderance of evidence concludes that what happend on 9-11 actually happend. Time has passed and we have evolved. We think more, we dream more, we are most definitly more intilectual now than then but just because he have access to this medium does not make it correct!

I hate government and I work for them! But "YOU" come on man! Unplug, take a step back and really think of what your charging!

I will look for it, but a few years ago a buddy of mine sent me a vid of a study group where a guy invited 20 truthers to discuss 9-11 and he flipped the script and got face to face with these people (non confrontational) and when they did not have videos to rely on and could only rely on their own argument it was just sad! One guy did it, and they're were times where i actually felt bad for the truthers becasue they looked and sounded so silly when they couldn't answer simple questions. Its just silly to me thats all.

lol, quote before edit
"we are most definitly more intilectual"

[Boatcop1]

lol, quote before edit
"we are most definitly more intilectual"

So I'm a crappy speller? Your point? The bearing that has on my post? Really AX1? I didn't expect that from you!

[thebigt]

So I'm a crappy speller? Your point? The bearing that has on my post? Really AX1? I didn't expect that from you!

i guess he is only human...after all, lol.

[ax1]

So I'm a crappy speller? Your point? The bearing that has on my post? Really AX1? I didn't expect that from you!

hehe...sorry had to do that, lol
all the stuff you told me I dont think that was that bad, just playing

edit: BigT is right, maybe I am human, lol

For what your casting, 1500 "experts" some Youtube videos and your hypothesis is not enough to sway the burden of proof in your favor. Wether you like it or not, agree or disagree the (vast) majority of people in the world agree that the preponderance of evidence concludes that what happend on 9-11 actually happend. Time has passed and we have evolved. We think more, we dream more, we are most definitly more intilectual now than then but just because he have access to this medium does not make it correct!

I hate government and I work for them! But "YOU" come on man! Unplug, take a step back and really think of what your charging!

I will look for it, but a few years ago a buddy of mine sent me a vid of a study group where a guy invited 20 truthers to discuss 9-11 and he flipped the script and got face to face with these people (non confrontational) and when they did not have videos to rely on and could only rely on their own argument it was just sad! One guy did it, and they're were times where i actually felt bad for the truthers becasue they looked and sounded so silly when they couldn't answer simple questions. Its just silly to me thats all.

Its not about my thinking...its about the witnesses, documents, evidence, etc..that you aren't taking the time to analyze or even ask real questions.

I just proved in my previous post the government has no limits to how low they will go, I just proved they will attack their own military bases for justification of war and you think I'm not a thinker?

You can meet the Architects and Engineers in person if you would like. I sent you an event page and if anything is local you can attend and meet the experts in person. I dunno what else to tell you in regards to that, its your choice.

How about your friend send some police, firemen, engineers, physicists and military personal that belong to 9/11 truth movement for a new study group instead of picking of normal citizens questioning the government about the events? It sounds like he used intimidation tactics that he is trained in and that you would use on criminals during interrogation ..and that he is close minded person and his only purpose was to try to prove how powerful he was. These "study groups" are not study groups. Discussions should allow anybody to provide and discuss evidence on what happened on a mature level, its not a "face to face lets see who's tougher" wins. That doesn't prove anything.

[jontrainer]

"IN PLANE SITE" you can stream this documentary on Netflix.

[ax1]

"IN PLANE SITE" you can stream this documentary on Netflix.

All truth passes through 3 stages
1st stage denile
2nd stage violent opposition
3rd stage widespread acceptance as common knowledge

What stage do you the reader belong?

Science will triumph broscience

Free on youtube

In Plane Sight - Sept 11 - 911 Conspiracy 1 of 6


Part 2


Part 3


Part 4


Part 5


Part 6

[Boatcop1]

hehe...sorry had to do that, lol
all the stuff you told me I dont think that was that bad, just playing

edit: BigT is right, maybe I am human, lol



Its not about my thinking...its about the witnesses, documents, evidence, etc..that you aren't taking the time to analyze or even ask real questions.

I just proved in my previous post the government has no limits to how low they will go, I just proved they will attack their own military bases for justification of war and you think I'm not a thinker?

You can meet the Architects and Engineers in person if you would like. I sent you an event page and if anything is local you can attend and meet the experts in person. I dunno what else to tell you in regards to that, its your choice.

How about your friend send some police, firemen, and military personal that belong to 9/11 truth movement for a new study group instead of picking of normal citizens questioning the government about the events? It sounds like he used intimidation tactics that he is trained in and that you would use on criminals during interrogation ..and that he is close minded person and his only purpose was to try to prove how powerful he was. These "study groups" are not study groups. Discussions should allow anybody to provide and discuss evidence on what happened on a mature level, its not a "face to face lets see who's tougher" wins. That doesn't prove anything.

Nah nah this was a flicker or youtube video that was sent to me years ago. It's not my friend or anything. It was just some dude and a bunch of people having a conversation about the events of 911 and then one of the patrons started to get "trutherish" and he went with it, then more and more started going but then he started asking legitimate questions and it got embarrasing quick. The questions were really simple though; who, what, when, how and why type of stuff. It goes back to a simple point i tried making earlier with you when i asked your opinion. Video does not jade me either way neither does script. But if i can look someone in the eyes and ask them their opinion on the subject and thay cannot answer me, well that says something! I know i cannot see you but you still didn't offer your opinion. It's always "look at the video" or " i showed you this or that". If I'm going to be swayed its going to be by a good real life argument/debate. If you can make an argument to my face, I will respect it, analyze it and reach a conclusion. It may not be what you want but i will always give you the time! That just dont happen anymore

[Boatcop1]

All truth passes through 3 stages
1st stage denile
2nd stage violent opposition
3rd stage widespread acceptance as common knowledge

What stage do you the reader belong?

Science will triumph broscience

Free on youtube

In Plane Sight - Sept 11 - 911 Conspiracy 1 of 6


Part 2


Part 3


Part 4


Part 5


Part 6

All truth passes throught three stages? WTF? Who the F said that? I never heard that before!

truth:
My daughter: Dad I got an A on my history test
Me: No way, your not that smart! C+ maybe but no A!

10 MIN

Me: WHAT? AN "A" WTF? I EXPECT A+ IN THIS HOUSE! YOU LITTLE DUMB BASTARD! YOU TAKE AFTE YOUR MOM!!!!

10 MIN

Me: Congrats on the A! I love you babe, sorry about the rant.

[wontstop985]

I agree as long as it's within reason!

Calling somebody a witness does not make them a witness!
Calling somebody an expert does not make them an expert!
Calling somebody credible does not make them credible!

You just un-debunked all the alleged debunking you just did with that last post, buddy. Nice.

[wontstop985]

Nah nah this was a flicker or youtube video that was sent to me years ago. It's not my friend or anything. It was just some dude and a bunch of people having a conversation about the events of 911 and then one of the patrons started to get "trutherish" and he went with it, then more and more started going but then he started asking legitimate questions and it got embarrasing quick. The questions were really simple though; who, what, when, how and why type of stuff. It goes back to a simple point i tried making earlier with you when i asked your opinion. Video does not jade me either way neither does script. But if i can look someone in the eyes and ask them their opinion on the subject and thay cannot answer me, well that says something! I know i cannot see you but you still didn't offer your opinion. It's always "look at the video" or " i showed you this or that". If I'm going to be swayed its going to be by a good real life argument/debate. If you can make an argument to my face, I will respect it, analyze it and reach a conclusion. It may not be what you want but i will always give you the time! That just dont happen anymore

This is like asking for somebody's opinion on whether a fact is true or not. Their opinion doesn't matter. It either is true, or it isn't true, regardless of what anybody thinks.

His opinion, like yours, is not relevant to what really happened. Whatever happened, happened. No opinion can affect that. The point is to investigate the facts and not to make face to face arguments about who's right and who isn't - this isn't high school debate class and winning the argument won't bring anybody closer to what really happened.

[Boatcop1]

This is like asking for somebody's opinion on whether a fact is true or not. Their opinion doesn't matter. It either is true, or it isn't true, regardless of what anybody thinks.

His opinion, like yours, is not relevant to what really happened. Whatever happened, happened. No opinion can affect that. The point is to investigate the facts and not to make face to face arguments about who's right and who isn't - this isn't high school debate class and winning the argument won't bring anybody closer to what really happened.

Our opinions dont matter? Are you kidding me? Me being able to succesfully debate my opinion has gotten me pretty far in life! On a interwebz forum? of course not! In real life? You bet my opinion is valued! You have never been asked your opinion on something? if not that says a lot about you i guess. In my line of work my opinion is a valued piece of the puzzle, just like my co-workers opinions are! It's peoples opinion's that are ultimatley key driving forces when trying to obtain a common goal! For instance this debate over 911! You said the point is to investigate facts? What facts? the pool of evidence is so dilluted and filled with so many holes the only thing left is opinion!

I still dont understand how anyone could give the US Government so much credit in pulling off such an act!

Let's just say for argument sake that the federal center for records and history, the government, CIA,NTSB,FAA,FBI,AIR FORCE,airlines, the pentagon etc etc etc allowed for 50 independant thinkers/incestigators to scour the records of the events (I mean everything!) for over a year and the results were found that they could not find ANY evidence that supports an actuall 911 conspiracy and everything showed that the events that took place actually took place.

Then what? what would you think?

[wontstop985]

Let's just say for argument sake that the federal center for records and history, the government, CIA,NTSB,FAA,FBI,AIR FORCE,airlines, the pentagon etc etc etc allowed for 50 independant thinkers/incestigators to scour the records of the events (I mean everything!) for over a year and the results were found that they could not find ANY evidence that supports an actuall 911 conspiracy and everything showed that the events that took place actually took place.

Then what? what would you think?

What if they found the opposite to be the case? Then what would you think?

[ax1]

I still dont understand how anyone could give the US Government so much credit in pulling off such an act!

Let's just say for argument sake that the federal center for records and history, the government, CIA,NTSB,FAA,FBI,AIR FORCE,airlines, the pentagon etc etc etc allowed for 50 independant thinkers/incestigators to scour the records of the events (I mean everything!) for over a year and the results were found that they could not find ANY evidence that supports an actuall 911 conspiracy and everything showed that the events that took place actually took place.

Then what? what would you think?

Yes, independent investigation. We can start with Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik who will testify under oath and reveal the General who directly told him 9/11 false flag job. Right now this General is having his identity protected for his safety, but once the name is out he will be out telling all.

The government will take out their own people, have you heard of Pat Tillman?

[Boatcop1]

What if they found the opposite to be the case? Then what would you think?

That's simple, I would shake my head in disgust and apologize to the people that i may have debated this over, and of course apologize for getting mad at some people about it. What's the big deal?

[Boatcop1]

Yes, independent investigation. We can start with Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik who will testify under oath and reveal the General who directly told him 9/11 false flag job. Right now this General is having his identity protected for his safety, but once the name is out he will be out telling all.

The government will take out their own people, have you heard of Pat Tillman?

Why do you continue to name drop? Havent you learned by now that does not impress me?

Yes of course I know Pat Tillman! We killed him with friendly fire after he gave up everything to fight for his country.

[ax1]

That's simple, I would shake my head in disgust and apologize to the people that i may have debated this over, and of course apologize for getting mad at some people about it. What's the big deal?

I could understand why people would get emotional over this, believe me your not the first.

The bodybuilding board isnt the only place I go to inform, and I do have discussions in public as well.

[ax1]

Why do you continue to name drop? Havent you learned by now that does not impress me?

Yes of course I know Pat Tillman! We killed him with friendly fire after he gave up everything to fight for his country.

It wasnt friendly fire, they tried to cover it up and failed. He was assassinated from close range.

[wontstop985]

That's simple, I would shake my head in disgust and apologize to the people that i may have debated this over, and of course apologize for getting mad at some people about it. What's the big deal?

So what use would your opinions and arguments have been?

[ax1]

Here is Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.

I know its a video and you discredit every video in existence, but its brother, HIS BROTHER WITH THEIR MOTHER BY HIS SIDE!!!

Now if there is a question you should ask, it would be, Why did our government kill Pat Tillman? Was it perhaps that he was whistle-blowing to his family about the truth of the Afghanistan War? And that he was telling him family that he was prepared to go back home and tell ALL the Americans the truth!?