Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

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  1. Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth
    Written by Chris Sarns
    Wednesday, 08 May 2013 18:51

    Chris Sarns
    Editor’s note: To this day most people, including many architects and engineers, are not aware that a third skyscraper, World Trade Center Building 7, mysteriously collapsed along with the World Trade Center Twin Towers on September 11, 2001. The official report on this building’s collapse by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has been challenged by many reputable and credentialed technical professionals. The NIST analysis has not undergone the rigors of scientific peer review – the typical pathway for validating significant scientific theories. Chris Sarns’ research appears in Dr. David Ray Griffin’s book titled "The Mysterious Collapse of World Trade Center 7."

    The studies below represent years of work by Chris in unraveling some of the most glaring inconsistencies and outright frauds in the NIST report on World Trade Center 7. He demonstrates that the NIST’s theory of the fire-induced collapse of Building 7 is faulty and misleading.

    The destruction of this skyscraper on September 11 was truly unprecedented in the history of high-rise buildings. More than 1,900 architects and engineers at AE911Truth are demanding a new investigation.

    Chris has also been deeply involved in the work of AE911Truth, where he provides his expertise on WTC 7.

    During the next five months, we will be presenting five articles written by Chris Sarns that address the alleged fire-induced collapse of World Trade Center 7 at 5:20 PM on September 11, 2001.

    Quotes from the NIST WTC 7 report are shown in "brown"

    1. BURNED-OUT FIRE

    The timing of the fire on floor 12 exposes NIST's false claim that fire led to the collapse.

    The images shown below on the left are Sarns' approximations using the photogrpahs as a guide of where and at what times the fire existed on floor 12. On the right is the NIST ANSYS computer model for the same times.

    "Note that only window glass breaking times were prescribed in the fire model. The observed fire activity gleaned from the photographs and video were not a model input" NCSTAR 1-9 Vol.2 p. 378 [pdf p. 40]

    NIST will not release the input data because doing so might "jeopardize public safety"


    Quotes and photographs from the NIST reports on the collapse of WTC 7

    Fire spread:


    "On those floors that were mostly subdivided into offices (such as Floors 11 and 12), the fire would have grown within a single office, reaching flashover within several minutes. After about 5 to 15 min, the ceiling tile system would have failed from the heat, and the hot air would have flowed over the office wall. Soon the hot air would fail the ceiling of an adjacent office, and eventually the thermal radiation would ignite the contents in this office. Fire spread would have been similar for offices separated by a corridor, although this would have taken longer, since the hot air would have to travel further and would be cooling along the way." NCSTAR 1A p. 19 [pdf p. 61]

    "The mass of the furnishings per office was not known" NCSTAR 1-9 Vol.1 p. 60 [pdf p.104]

    "the average combustible fuel load on the 11th and 12th floors was estimated as 32 kg/m2" NCSTAR 1-9 Vol.2 p. 376 [pdf p.38]


    All things being equal, the fire would have spread consistently. But the NIST ANSYS computer model (above) inexplicably bypassed the offices to the southwest of column 79, burns around column 79 on the east side and then burned the offices to the southwest of column 79 two hours later.

    "Fires on Floors 11 to 13 persisted in any given location for approximately 20 min to 30 min." NCSTAR 1A p. 47 [pdf p. 89]

    Photos showing progression of fire:

    "From 11:30 a.m. to 2:30 p.m. Looking from southeast corner to the south face.

    Fire on floor 12;[1] area above covered with smoke

    Fire on floors 11-12[1] moved to east face and progressed to the north

    [1] fires reported on floor 14, but photographs showed east face fires on floor 12." Part IIC p. 21

    Figure 5-114. Oblique view of the east face of WTC 7, taken at 228 p.m. +/- 1s
    Fire was first seen on the 12th floor at 2:08 p.m. toward the south end of the east face. Further south on this face, the window glass was still intact, indicating that this fire had burned in the building interior as it turned the southeast corner." NCSTAR 1-9 Vol.1 p. 245 [pdf p. 289]
    Figure 5-117. Photograph showing fires on the east face at 243 p.m. +/- 1s [34, 37 and 40 are column numbers] "By around 2:30 p.m., the visible flames had diminished, but the fire had spread both south into the southeast corner and north, reaching two-thirds of the way to the northeast corner." NCSTAR IA, p. 20 [pdf p. 62]
    Fire first appears on the north face of floor 12 about 80 feet from the north-east corner:

    "By 3:00 p.m., the fire had spread internally past the northeast corner and onto the north face." NCSTAR 1A p. 20 [pdf p.62]

    The fire spread internally through the offices around column 79 and under the beams which allegedly underwent enough thermal expanion to push a girder off its seat and initiate the "global collapse" at 5:20 p.m.



    Figure 5-119. Photograph showing the north face of WTC 7 taken from a helicopter around 2:57 p.m. +/- 5 min




    Figure 5-121. Cropped photograph of the north face of WTC 7, taken from a helicopter around 3:05 p.m. +/- 5 min


    “In less than 15 min, the fire simultaneously spread rapidly to the east to engulf the northeast corner of the floor and more slowly westward about one-third of the way across the north face.” NCSTAR 1a P. 20 [PDF P.62]



    Figure 5-135. Cropped photograph showing the east edge of the north face and an oblique view of the east face. It was likely taken between 3:20 p.m. and 3:40 p.m.

    "The fire continued spreading westward in starts and stops, approaching the northwest corner of the floor around 3:45 p.m." NCSTAR 1A p. 20 [pdf p. 62]


    Figure 5-136. Frame taken from a video shot from near the corner of Greenwich Street and Park Place showing the north face of WTC 7 between 3:49 p.m. and 3:54 p.m.


    The photographs reveal that the fire on floor 12 had progressed from the south side of the building to the north side by 3:00 p.m. – and had engulfed the northeast corner by about 3:15 p.m. This means that the fire in the area in question (around column 79 and under the beams and girder in the northeast corner) had burned out at about 3:50, because as noted above, the fires burned for only about 20 to 30 minutes in any given location.




    References:

    June 2004 Progress Report on the Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster (NIST SP 1000-5)

    NCSTAR 1A
    Final Report on the Collapse of World Trade Center Building 7

    NCSTAR 1-9 Vol.1 and 2
    Structural Fire Response and Probable Collapse Sequence of World Trade Center Building 7

    Part IIC
    NIST Response to the World Trade Center Disaster – Federal Building and Fire Safety Investigation of the World Trade Center Disaster – Part IIC – WTC 7 Collapse – April 5, 2005

    Next month we will examine what Chris Sarns has described as "MAGICAL THERMAL EXPANSION" because NIST used numerous unscientific methods and fraudulent inputs to get the key girder that allegedly initiated the total collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 to fail in its computer simulation. Be sure to check back next month for the continuation of this exceptional analysis.

    Original Post: Fraud Exposed in NIST WTC 7 Reports - Part 1
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  3. Military Says No Presidential Authorization Needed To Quell “Civil Disturbances”

    DoD “instruction” seeks to abolish Posse Comitatus, grease skids for military coup


    Paul Joseph Watson
    May 17, 2013

    A recent Department of Defense instruction alters the US code applying to the military’s involvement in domestic law enforcement by allowing US troops to quell “civil disturbances” domestically without any Presidential authorization, greasing the skids for a de facto military coup in America along with the wholesale abolition of Posse Comitatus.


    Image: Wikimedia Commons

    The instruction (embedded at the end of this article), which was originally released in February yet has only come to light this week, outlines DoD policy regarding, “DoD support to Federal, State, tribal, and local civilian law enforcement agencies, including responses to civil disturbances within the United States.”

    On page 16 of the document (PDF), we find the following amendment (emphasis mine);


    (3) When permitted under emergency authority in accordance with Reference (c), Federal military commanders have the authority, in extraordinary emergency circumstances where prior authorization by the President is impossible and duly constituted local authorities are unable to control the situation, to engage temporarily in activities that are necessary to quell large-scale, unexpected civil disturbances because:

    (a) Such activities are necessary to prevent significant loss of life or wanton destruction of property and are necessary to restore governmental function and public order; or,

    (b) When duly constituted Federal, State, or local authorities are unable or decline to provide adequate protection for Federal property or Federal governmental functions. Federal action, including the use of Federal military forces, is authorized when necessary to protect Federal property or functions.


    On page 17 of the document, a number of different scenarios are listed under which the military is forbidden involvement, although the broader power of quelling domestic disturbances without presidential or congressional authorization is claimed.

    In essence, this policy change seeks to supersede Posse Comitatus, the 1878 law which forbids the military from being involved in domestic law enforcement “except in cases and under circumstances expressly authorized by the Constitution or Act of Congress.”

    Under the Insurrection Act of 1807, the President may deploy armed forces domestically under extreme circumstances but Congress has to review the action every 14 days.

    Under the War Powers Resolution of 1973, the President cannot commit troops to an armed conflict for a period longer than 60 days without an authorization from Congress of the use of military force or a declaration of war.

    Under no circumstances in current US law is it legal for the military to deploy itself domestically without authorization from either the President, Congress or both.

    In claiming this power, the Pentagon is effectively opening the door to a potential future military coup.



    “It’s quite shocking actually because it violates the long-standing presumption that the military is under civilian control,” Bruce Afran, a civil liberties attorney and constitutional law professor at Rutgers University, told Long Island Press, adding that the rule change represents “a wanton power grab by the military.”

    Afran pulled no punches in comparing the move to what happened in Nazi Germany under similar decrees, noting that it hands, “emergency power to the military to rule over parts of the country at their own discretion.”

    Afran also cautioned that the term “temporarily” was a misnomer.

    “Governments never like to give up power when they get it,” he stated. “They still think after twelve years they can get intelligence out of people in Guantanamo. Temporary is in the eye of the beholder. That’s why in statutes we have definitions. All of these statutes have one thing in common and that is that they have no definitions. How long is temporary? There’s none here. The definitions are absurdly broad.”

    The new DoD “instruction” follows numerous other examples of how the military is clearly gearing up for civil unrest and confrontation with American citizens on U.S. soil.

    A US Army Military Police training manual for “Civil Disturbance Operations” leaked in July last year outlines how military assets are to be used domestically to quell riots, confiscate firearms and even kill Americans on U.S. soil during mass civil unrest.

    The document outlines how military assets will be used to “help local and state authorities to restore and maintain law and order” in the event of mass riots, civil unrest or a declaration of martial law.

    The manual also describes how prisoners will be processed through temporary internment camps under the guidance of U.S. Army FM 3-19.40 Internment/Resettlement Operations, which as we reported last year, outlines how internees would be “re-educated” into developing an “appreciation of U.S. policies” while detained in prison camps inside the United States.

    On page 20 of the manual, rules regarding the use of “deadly force” in confronting “dissidents” are made disturbingly clear with the directive that a, “Warning shot will not be fired.”

    Preparations for civil unrest inside the United States have accelerated over the past five years.

    Back in 2008, U.S. troops returning from Iraq were earmarked for “homeland patrols” with one of their roles including helping with “civil unrest and crowd control”.

    In December 2008, the Washington Post reported on plans to station 20,000 more U.S. troops inside America for purposes of “domestic security” from September 2011 onwards, an expansion of Northcom’s militarization of the country in preparation for potential civil unrest following a total economic collapse or a mass terror attack.

    A report produced that same year by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Institute warned that the United States may experience massive civil unrest in the wake of a series of crises which it termed “strategic shock.”

    “Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order and human security,” stated the report, authored by [Ret.] Lt. Col. Nathan Freir, adding that the military may be needed to quell “purposeful domestic resistance”.

    Rex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, was established under the pretext of a “mass exodus” of illegal aliens crossing the Mexican/US border.

    During the Iran-Contra hearings in 1987, however, it was revealed that the program was a secretive “scenario and drill” developed by the federal government to suspend the Constitution, declare martial law, assign military commanders to take over state and local governments,
    and detain large numbers of American citizens determined by the government to be “national security threats.”

    Read the full DoD document below.

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  4. The IRS’s Job Is To Violate Our Liberties


    Ron Paul
    May 20, 2013

    (note: Skip to youtube video if you prefer to listen)

    “What do you expect when you target the President?” This is what an Internal Revenue Service (IRS) agent allegedly said to the head of a conservative organization that was being audited after calling for the impeachment of then-President Clinton. Recent revelations that IRS agents gave “special scrutiny” to organizations opposed to the current administration’s policies suggest that many in the IRS still believe harassing the President’s opponents is part of their job.

    As troubling as these recent reports are, it would be a grave mistake to think that IRS harassment of opponents of the incumbent President is a modern, or a partisan, phenomenon. As scholar Burton Folsom pointed out in his book New Deal or Raw Deal, IRS agents in the 1930s where essentially “hit squads” against opponents of the New Deal. It is well-known that the administrations of John F. Kennedy and Lyndon Johnson used the IRS to silence their critics. One of the articles of impeachment drawn up against Richard Nixon dealt with his use of the IRS to harass his political enemies. Allegations of IRS abuses were common during the Clinton administration, and just this week some of the current administration’s defenders recalled that antiwar and progressive groups alleged harassment by the IRS during the Bush presidency.

    The bipartisan tradition of using the IRS as a tool to harass political opponents suggests that the problem is deeper than just a few “rogue” IRS agents—or even corruption within one, two, three or many administrations. Instead, the problem lays in the extraordinary power the tax system grants the IRS.

    The IRS routinely obtains information about how we earn a living, what investments we make, what we spend on ourselves and our families, and even what charitable and religious organizations we support. Starting next year, the IRS will be collecting personally identifiable health insurance information in order to ensure we are complying with Obamacare’s mandates.

    The current tax laws even give the IRS power to marginalize any educational, political, or even religious organizations whose goals, beliefs, and values are not favored by the current regime by denying those organizations “tax-free” status. This is the root of the latest scandal involving the IRS.

    Considering the type of power the IRS excises over the American people, and the propensity of those who hold power to violate liberty, it is surprising we do not hear about more cases of politically-motivated IRS harassment. As the first US Supreme Court Chief Justice John Marshall said, “The power to tax is the power to destroy” — and who better to destroy than one’s political enemies?

    The US flourished for over 120 years without an income tax, and our liberty and prosperity will only benefit from getting rid of the current tax system. The federal government will get along just fine without its immoral claim on the fruits of our labor, particularly if the elimination of federal income taxes are accompanied by serious reduction in all areas of spending, starting with the military spending beloved by so many who claim to be opponents of high taxes and big government.

    While it is important for Congress to investigate the most recent scandal and ensure all involved are held accountable, we cannot pretend that the problem is a few bad actors. The very purpose of the IRS is to transfer wealth from one group to another while violating our liberties in the process, thus the only way Congress can protect our freedoms is to repeal the income tax and shutter the doors of the IRS once and for all.

    Former Congressman Ron Paul’s article first appeared at the-free-foundation.org, the temporary home for his weekly column until his personal web page is up and running.



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    Obama-Backed FSA Rebels Name Their Brigade “Osama Bin Laden”


    White House openly seeking to arm terrorists in Syria


    Paul Joseph Watson
    May 20, 2013

    Underlining once again how the White House is openly seeking to arm terrorists in Syria, video has emerged of one of the FSA rebel groups referring to their unit as the “Osama Bin Laden” brigade.



    The clip shows one of the militants proclaim how he is part of “The Osama bin Laden brigade of the Souqour Dimashq (Hawks of Damascus) Battalion…..Allahu Akbar!” as the insurgents prepare to attack a Syrian Army checkpoint.

    “Western countries have been claiming that the FSA is comprised of somewhat “secular” people and that jihadists have only joined the fight but they are not part of the FSA. Well, you cannot get more al-Qaeda’ish than calling a brigade “Osama bin Laden,” states the description accompanying the video.

    Indeed, while the media narrative has attempted to frame the presence of Al-Qaeda terrorists in Syria under the banner of Jabhat Al-Nusra as a separate entity to FSA fighters, whom the White House is now preparing to arm with heavy weaponry, 29 FSA groups pledged allegiance to Al-Nusra, which was responsible for killing U.S. troops in Iraq, immediately after the group was declared a terrorist organization by the State Department back in December.

    A May 8 London Guardian report noted how Jabhat al-Nusra is “emerging as the best-equipped, financed and motivated force fighting Bashar al-Assad’s regime,” and how droves of FSA fighters are now joining its ranks.

    This is by no means the first time western-backed FSA rebels have proudly proclaimed their affinity with Bin Laden and Al-Qaeda.

    As we reported earlier this year, video footage emerged showing Syrian rebels singing songs in praise of Osama Bin Laden while celebrating the “sweet memory” of the attack on the World Trade Center on 9/11.

    “They (Twin Towers) have gone with the blink of an eye, oh how sweet is the memory,” the crowd sings in Arabic. “Our leader Osama Bin Laden, America’s worst nightmare,” the song continues as the crowd cheers, “If they call me a terrorist I will consider it an honor, our terror is blessed, a divine call, Allah is our goal we strive to reach him.”

    FSA fighters have also displayed the black Al-Qaeda flag on innumerable occasions, including recently during a series of grisly public executions.

    A Syrian rebel quoted by McClatchy Newspapers last year was overheard to remark, “When we finish with Assad, we will fight the U.S.!”

    Other militants have appeared in You Tube videos speaking of their desire to see the Al-Qaeda flag fly over the White House and impose Sharia law once the rebels are victorious across the region.

    Rebels have also been caught on camera burning U.S. flags and chanting anti-American slogans.

    The fact that Syrian opposition fighters are increasingly being exposed as sectarian jihadists loyal to Al-Qaeda, in addition to their innumerable atrocities, has derailed the now flimsy narrative that the FSA is comprised of freedom fighters who merely want to topple the dictatorship of Bashar Al-Assad to restore liberty in Syria.

    With the Syrian Army winning major battles and reclaiming key areas of the country, the White House and other NATO powers are rapidly running out of time in their bid to oversee a repeat of what happened in Libya, where Al-Qaeda insurgents were also armed as part of the effort to depose Colonel Gaddafi, a process that led to the country being overtaken by brutal warlords and terrorist gangs who later took part in the attack on the US consulate in Benghazi last September.

    Despite the fact that FSA rebels are being led and taught how to build bombs by Al-Qaeda militants, the top Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs panel Rep. Eliot Engel has introduced legislation urging the Obama administration to send $150 million in “lethal and non-lethal security assistance” to the insurgents. Earlier this month, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel said that the Obama administration was “rethinking” its opposition to arming the rebels.

    However, as the New York Times reported, the CIA has already been involved in “a secret airlift of arms and equipment for the uprising against President Bashar al-Assad” since early 2012.

    Watch a video clip of western-backed rebels singing the praises of Osama bin Laden while glorifying the 9/11 attacks below.


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  5. Repost: (Note from Ax1....This is an important post, and like to re-post on occasion. There were 1,400 toasted cars on 9/11, and as far out as the FDR drive. Metal parts of cars toasted with perfectly intact vinyl/rubber. It appears they used the aid of some type of microwave technology from the Star Wars program (that was developed pre-70's pre-Reagan as far as I know). Its kind of like when you put a piece of chicken on a paper plate, the chicken will cook but the paper plate wont. Or, to make more sense if you put a piece of metal and rubber in a microwave you would get a the metal producing a heavy reaction, while the rubber nothing.)

    Part 1

    The Star Wars Beam Weapons
    and
    Star Wars Directed-Energy Weapons (DEW)
    (A focus of the Star Wars Program)


    Toasted Cars
    At the time this article was being developed, many people expressed disbelief that energy weapons existed outside of science fiction until they were reminded of the Star Wars Program, also known as the Strategic Defense Initiative (SDI)*. The name of this article was chosen as a reminder that energy weapons do exist and have been developed over 100 years. Most of this technology is classified information. It can also be assumed that such technology exists in multiple countries. The purpose of this article was to begin to identify the evidence of what happened on 9/11/01 that must be accounted for. In doing so, the evidence ruled out a Kinetic Energy Device (bombs, missiles, etc.) as the method of destruction as well as a gravity-driven "collapse."

    *SDI was created by U.S. President Ronald Reagan on March 23, 1983.1 It is thought that SDI may have been first dubbed "Star Wars" by opponent Dr. Carol Rosin, a consultant and former spokeswoman for Wernher von Braun. However, Missile Defense Agency (MDA) historians attribute the term to a Washington Post article published March 24, 1983, the day after the Star Wars speech, which quoted Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy describing the proposal as "reckless Star Wars schemes."2 Before it was named the "Star Wars Program (SDI) in 1983, it was the Advanced Space Programs Development.3







    Introduction Top
    A reported 1400 vehicles were damaged on 9/11. [Reference] These vehicles had peculiar patterns of damage and some were as far away as FDR Drive (about 7 blocks from the WTC, along the East River). Vehicles had missing door handles for example, windows blown out, window frames deformed, melted engine blocks, steel-belted tires with only the steel belts left, and vehicle front ends destroyed with little or no effect on the back end of the vehicles. What could have caused such extraordinary damage? Portions of cars burned while paper nearby did not.






    Figure 64. Peculiar wilting of car doors and deformed window surrounds on FDR Drive.
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    Figure 65. Map of lower Manhattan shows the WTC and FDR Drive a half mile or more apart. Arial view of lower Manhattan. (mouse over to remove arrows and labels)
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    Figure 65a. Notice the dust-covered car in front of the toasted police car. There is also debris on the pavement away from the main part of the road. They probably couldn't clean it very well because the toasted cars were there.
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    Figure 65b. Notice the dust-covered car behind the toasted police car. There is also debris on the pavement away from the main part of the road. So, it appears the roadway has been washed already.
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    Figure 65c. Notice the two dust-covered cars under the bridge. How did the dust fall there? Obviosly there were strong enough air currents to put it there. It's interesting how the drying pavement looks like it does after its been treated for snow and ice. (This is thought to be the entrance ramp to the Brooklyn Bridge from southbound FDR Drive.)
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    Figure 66. Toasted cars in a lot near the WTC.


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    Figure 67. Blistered car on FDR Drive with unburned upholstery and unburned plastic window molding.
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    Figure 68. Front half of a car burned with a shiny, unburned rear end.

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    Figure 69. What burned and dragged these cars and mangled the left rear wheel? Where are the door handles?
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    Figure 70. What was this thing across the street? Was it a car? Was it a van? What caused that line of burn marks on the hood of the car in the foreground on the right? In the left foreground, the remains of a vehicle sit atop a white sedan. Are we looking at the front or the back end? It looks like the front end and if it is, its engine is missing. We can see daylight through the wheel well.
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  6. Part 2 of Toasted Cars on 9/11 read previous post for part 1

    Peeling Appearance Top
    Many vehicles had their outer surface peeled away like a sardine can. In some instances, clearly there is more than peeling paint was involved. It appears that the sheet metal delaminated as though something caused the material to melt or disintegrate at a certain depth. In some cases it appears that there was more heat damage inside than outside and vice versa.



    Figure 71. What happened to the axles, wheels, and tires? On the doors, it appears that a heavy layer of paint peeled down from the top, yet the paint on the lower part of the doors has not been peeled away. Wow did the wheel get under the rear suspension?
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    Figure 72. The car with the flat tire appears to have "wilted" from heat, from the top down, leaving a peeling appearance on the back end. The SUV on its right is missing all its window glass except for the windshield. The vehicle on the far right has no trace of tires, no door handles, no tail lights, and no windows. Why?
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    Figure 73. The peeling on the side door appears to be delaminated. Sheet metal is not laminated, so why would it do this?

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    Figure 74. Why does this ambulance have melted inside doors? The inside looks to have suffered more heat damage than the outside. What would cause that?
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    Figure 75. Oddly enough, there were also toasted cars at the Pentagon on 9/11.

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    Figure 76. This is the same vehicle shown in the previous figure after the fires were extinguished. Why is the passenger door burned? Note how the hood is curled up.
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    • Other Anomalies Top

    The pictures below document a wide variety of damage to vehicles, including total incineration of vehicles, toasted and disappeared engine blocks, steel-belted tires with no rubber and only steel belts, deformed wheels, missing grills, broken and missing vehicle windows and mirrors, no door handles, wilted doors, and unburned paper next to burning cars.



    Figure firetruck. A badly damaged fire truck. Where did its engine go? The bottom of the tire has turned to goo below a distinct horizontal line in the tire.


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    Figure hazmat. A FDMY Hazmat truck in front of WTC6 on West Street. The remaining upper part of the truck has been peeled and evaporated in areas. The upper part of the cab is gone and the engine block seems to have disappeared. The photo was taken on 9/11 after WTC1 disappeared but before WTC7 collapsed.
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    Figure 66(e). Why would the front of this fire truck wilt?
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    Figure 66(h). Is there something attractive about engine blocks? Why not gasoline fuel tanks?
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    Figure 77. The mail truck parked on the left side of the street looks burnt. Why? (Click on photo for enlarged view.) The building on the left is the USPS Federal Building and on the right is WTC7. WTC5 is on fire at the end of the street. Why? If this area is hot enough for spontaneous combustion, why isn't the paper on fire? The cars on the right side of the street are also toasted.
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    Figure flip. Why is this car upside down? A burned out SUV with missing windows and toasted front end is parked in front of WFC2 on West Street but will not be moving under its own power.
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    • Lower Manhattan Top

    Figure Map. Arial view of lower Manhattan.
    (mouse over to remove arrows and labels)
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    Figure 66(a). Cars along FDR drive were randomly toasted. These cars are at least 1/2 mile away from the WTC. Note the waviness of the tire tracks. What happened?
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    Figure 66(b). Wheels appear to have steel-belts from the tires still on them.
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    Figure 66(c). Did one car run under the other during the event or were they stacked after the event? The marks in the pavement suggest they were pushed to the side of the road.
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    Figure 66(d). The remains of a steel-belted tire without the rubber. This is a close-up of the figure above.
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    Figure 66(j). The front end of this FDNY car is toasted and mildly deformed, while the door appears undamaged and the window glass is intact. The debris on this car suggests it was near the WTC.
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    Figure 66(f). While the bodies of these toasted vehicles still exist, they've been incinerated. All of the softer materials inside and out have disappeared.
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    Figure 66(k). This Toasted Interior was consumed except for the fire extinguisher.
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    Figure 66(l). The front half of car 2723 is toasted, but check out the new wax job on the back. Notice the missing front door handle and the untouched back door handle.
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    Figure 66(m). What happened to the top half of car 1250? The doors are crinkled up, but the rear tire looks OK.
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    Figure 66(n). There is extensive damage to the front of car 2723, including no door handle on the driver's door. There is an unusual, unburned circular area on the rear door.
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  7. Part 3 of Toasted Cars



    In the debate over toasted cars ignited by this article, some have argued that the wrecked vehicles on FDR drive were damaged at the WTC and were loaded up and transported and dumped on FDR drive for storage. First, there is no evidence that this was done. Second, it makes no sense to load up wrecks, transport them, only to dump them in a busy thoroughfare for storage. These wrecks would have had to be picked up yet again and transported again. If vehicles were truly moved from the WTC to FDR Drive, we wonder why WTC steel beams were not stacked up on FDR drive, as well, if it was such a good storage area. Third, governments may be stupid, but we doubt they could be this inefficient. If reported, it would have been a minor scandal. Fourth, we might be wrong about the facts here, but it looks like the motive for this speculation about shifting wrecks around lower Manhattan is to protect the official story or thermite story or other pet theories. We fail to see any other explanation for such a "forced" interpretation for these photographs. Fifth, marks on the roadway suggest that some of these vehicles were pushed to the side of the roadway until they could be removed. For example, see this figure. This is a more natural explanation for why some of the cars appear to have been moved from where they were damaged rather than all the way from the WTC.




    • Burning Cars Top


    Figure 66(g). This fire seems to be very selective.


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    Figure 66(i). A minivan is consumed by flames. The fire rages inside the vehicle, contained by the remaining windows. The fire appears more intense at the front where the engine is.
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    Figure onfire1. The tires and even the pavement under the car are on fire. The windows appear to be intact with no visible interior fire. There is line of fire along the trunk lid. The right front fender is deformed and has turned white.
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    Figure onfire2. A fire rages, apparently on Vesey Street, sending up thick black smoke. These may be the vehicles that eyewitness Rebecca O. described as she ran past WTC6 during the destruction of WTC2.
    Source



    • Missing Windows Top



    Figure 66(o). Why doesn't the paper burn?

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    Figure 66(p). No window? What happened to the rear-view mirror?
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    Figure 66(q). Why is the rubber window gasket hanging outward?
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    Figure 66(r). Sans windows. (But nice tire!)
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    Figure 66(s). Why is the paper shredded but nothing else apparently disturbed?
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    Figure 66(t). What blew out the windows without damaging the rest of the fire truck?
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    Figure 66(u). The window gasket is on the outside. What blew out the windows? What dislodged the front grill?
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    Figure 66(v). It didn't blow out just the middle portion of the windows; it blew out the windows all the way back to the frame where it was mounted.
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    Figure 66(w). Hosing down the windowless fire truck.
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    Figure 66(x). Final cleaning of the windowless fire truck. Notice its grill is missing.
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    Figure 66(y). What could have caused such extensive damage to this car? Has the passenger side shoulder harness survived? Where's the steering wheel?
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    Figure 66(z). Why is this fire truck burnt? It is missing its front grill, headlights, and related front end bright-work. Where are the tires?
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    Most of the 1400 toasted cars had some, if not all, windows missing. What would cause this? Figure yy, below, shows a silver convertible with its top apparently intact but missing some of its window glass. If the windows were blown out from pressure inside, we would expect the convertible top to have been torn or blown off. This suggests that the windows were not blown out by internal pressure, but may have been shattered by some other mechanism.

    Figure yy. The cars parked in the back suffered extensive damage. The car on the left and on the far right look like they have had their engines eaten. The cars in the foreground experienced less damage, but many windows are missing, however partial and whole windows also remain.
    (9/12/01) Source:
    Figure 78. Why is this windshield crumpled up? Curiously, the interior of the car does not appear to contain anything that crashed through the windshield.
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  8. Final Part 4

    Toasted Parking Lot Top

    Figure toast1. afterWTC2 was destroyed there don't appear to be any fires.
    (9/11/01) Source:
    Figure toast2a. The cloud from the destruction of WTC1 rolls toward the parking lot.
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure toast2b. Just after WTC1 is destroyed, fires start to burn the vehicles in the large lot, but not the paper. Why?
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure toast3. The vehicle fires increase in strength as sunling begins to emerge through the clearing dust cloud.
    (9/11/01) Source:
    Figure toast4.The air upwind of the WTC has visably become clearer. The vehicle fires continue increasing and flames can be seen.
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure 5. The air has cleared after the destruction of WTC1. This area would be first to clear as it is upwind of the WTC. The fire in the toasted lot has increased in strength, consistent with it having just been started.
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure toast6. Sunlight begins streaming through the intersection.
    (9/11/01) Source:
    Figure toast7 The intersection and the grasssy lot are covered with paper and dust that did not burn. So, what caused the vehicles to suddenly catch fire?
    (9/11/01) Source:
    Figure toast8. How did these cars
    catch on fire?
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure street9(a). Gone with the Wind
    At the corner of West and Vesey, looking south toward the WTC complex. WTC1 was just destroyed and the people are cautiously emerging from their hiding places and slowly approaching the site with puzzled looks on their faces. "Where'd it go?" This appears to be about the same time as that of the previous three figures.
    (9/11/01) Source:
    Figure street9(b). Gone with the Wind
    A view west along Vesey street across the West St. intersection. The toasted parking lot is on the right in the distance. This is after WTC1 was destroyed. Sunlight is visible on WFC3 (on left). Paper in the foreground is not on fire. Why are vehicles in the parking lot on fire at some distance away?
    (9/11/01) Source:


    Figure toast10. Toasted cars in the lot northwest of the WTC complex. There is little visible rust, so the photo was probably within a day or two of 9/11/01.
    (9/?/01) Source: (WRH)
    Figure toast11. Not much visible rust, yet.
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    Figure toast12. The rust is noticeable
    (9/23/01) Source: (JW cut down from NOAA)


    Figure toast13. A lot more rust
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    Figure toast14. Towing finally begins.
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    Figure toast15. Presumably these cars are finally being towed away from that lot. Those wheels look fairly good which means they probably aren't steel.
    (9/?/01) Source:
    Figure toast16. The background is near the WTC

    (9/?/01) Source:


    See also More Toasted Cars
    (on a page not yet in this series).




    Jet Fuel (Kerosene) Top


    Figure 64. Peculiar wilting of car doors and deformed window surrounds on FDR Drive. Kerosene fires cannot do this.
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    Figure 67. These fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
    Source: Century wood stoves
    Figure 67k. Kerosene fires do not melt or significantly weaken steel.
    Source: Dyna-Glo kerosene heater: website
    Source: website Source: Omni-Directional Radiant Kerosene Heater Source: website
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  9. Psychologists help 9/11 truth deniers

    Psychologists help out the conspiracy theorists that won't let go of the official conspiracy theory



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  10. How convinient, one "former" suspect was found dead in a river several weeks ago, and another one in custody by the FBI gets shot by the FBI.
    Man with ties to Boston bombing suspect admits role in 2011 murders; shot during FBI questioning

    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013...estioning?lite

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    Former IRS Head: “I Can’t Recite the Constitution, Sir”

    “You went to law school. Did you study the Constitution?”

    “I believe I took Constitutional law, but I’m not prepared to take an exam at this time,” Shulman said with a chuckle. “Meaning I’ll answer any of your question but I can’t promise that I’m an expert.”



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    New Precedent: Armed Domestic Drone Strikes Will Soon Be Reality

    Anthony Gucciardi
    May 23, 2013

    A new precedent has been set. Despite extensive denial that drone strikes would endanger Americans, Attorney General Eric Holder has now openly admitted that four US citizens were killed through overseas drone strikes since 2009.

    While not on United States soil, the deaths of the US citizens in nations like Yemen and Pakistan highlight the new precedent being set by US government heads who wish to use drones as a form of lethal enforcement on US soil. With Holder admitting that Americans have already died via drone strikes following his statements that Obama can alreadyinitiate drone strikes on US soil, we are now seeing the way paved to go ahead and announce armed drones to fight terrorism here in the US.

    We all remember the initial rhetoric that drones were ‘no real threat’, and that they were simply unarmed scouting machines used to save lives overseas.

    Then, we saw them rapidly enter the nation, and we heard the same tired reassurances. We saw them killing innocents overseas with the high powered weaponry being attached to these ‘scouting’ drones, and we see them still doing so today. But, once again, we’re told not to worry. Political talking heads like Eric Holder assure us that domestic drones, for which over 1,400 permits have been issued, are not meant to be used as weapons. Well, that is unless Obama decides to use the drones as a weapon of war on US soil.

    ARMED DOMESTIC DRONES IN THE NEAR FUTURE

    Despite the message of assurance regarding the promise that domestic drones would never turn into government-controlled war machines, Eric Holder decided to go ahead and announce that it would actually be entirely ‘legal’ for Obama to issue a drone strike on a US citizen on domestic soil. In fact, CNN reports that Holder does not ‘rule out’ the possibility of domestic drone strikes, and that a scenario could occur in the future. And to strike someone with a drone, of course, you would need weaponry. You would need an armed drone.

    In other words, Holder is going against the major promise by the FAA official who ‘promised’ that no armed drones will be flying on domestic soil. But don’t worry, Holder says the government has ‘no intention’ right now of issuing drone strikes on US soil. Just like the government never targeted Constitution and conservative-based groups through the IRS and would never use domestic drones to spy on you. Quite simply, if any power is given to these individuals in government, be sure of one thing: they will use it.

    And knowing the track record of drone strikes overseas and how they greatly affect the innocent, drone strikes on US soil against citizens is an even more serious threat. The 3,000 plus deaths from drone strikes overseas in Pakistan alone, which vastly affect the innocent and non-threatening, have even prompted Google employees and big firms alike to develop charts and interactive maps to detail the deaths in a manner that portrays the reality of the situation. One design firm known as Pitch recently went and created an interactive chart that, along with detailing how less than 2% of strike victims are high priority targets, documents the drone strike deaths throughout recent years.

    We continue to hear these major announcements from Holder regarding drone strikes, and each time it pushes the precedent further. Each time, he warps the ‘law’ to justify what is being done with drone attacks, and each time we come closer to the announcement that we ‘need’ to use armed drones against domestic terrorists. Just wait for the next terrorist hunt in the US for a high profile crime case to hear more from Holder and the gang on why we need armed domestic drones to keep us safe. It already happened with Dorner and others.

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  11. More War, “Kill Courts” at Home. The Real Meaning of Obama’s National Security Speeches

    By Rep. Ron Paul
    May 28, 2013
    ronpaulinstitute.org/



    This past Thursday and Friday, President Obama delivered two speeches designed to outline his new thinking on national security and counter-terrorism. While much was made in the media of the president’s statements at the National Defense University and the US Naval Academy suggesting that the most active phase of US military action overseas was coming to an end, this “new” approach is but the same old policy wrapped in new packaging. In these addresses, the president panders to the progressives, while continually expanding and solidifying the “enabling act” principle.

    The president will continue and even expand drone attacks overseas because they are “less deadly” than ground invasions. He promises to be more careful in the future.

    He is entertaining the introduction of “kill courts” which will meet in secret to decide who is to be executed without trial or charge. He promises these will have sufficient oversight.

    He will seek a new and updated Authorization for the Use of Military Force to expand his legal authority to wage war wherever and whenever he wants. He promises it will one day be repealed.

    He will continue to indefinitely detain at Guantanamo individuals who have been neither charged nor convicted of any crime, and who cannot even be tried because they were tortured and thus the evidence is tainted. He promises to “commit to a process of closing GTMO.”

    The speech speaks of more war and more killing and more interventionism all masked in the language of withdrawal.

    The president warns of the threats of the new al-Qaeda affiliates that have sprung up in places like Iraq without explaining that it was the US invasion of Iraq that opened the door to their entry in the first place. There was no al-Qaeda in Iraq before the US overthrow of Saddam Hussein, just as there was little extremism in Libya before the US attack on that country in 2011.

    The president claims that “unrest in the Arab world has also allowed extremists to gain a foothold in countries like Libya and Syria.” However, it was the US-led attack on Libya that resulted in extremists gaining power there, with many fighters afterward spreading unrest and destruction by joining the wars against the Syrian and Malian regimes. The extremists brought to de facto power in places like Benghazi were responsible for the murder of the US ambassador, yet the president says nothing about that unintended consequence of his interventionist policies.

    He calls for even more interventionism in the future, but he promises that it will be a different kind of interventionism. He wants the US to shape democratic transitions in Tunisia, Egypt, and Libya while actively supporting those seeking to overthrow the government in Syria.

    He wants to take nation-building to a whole new level, urging that the US “help countries modernize economies, upgrade education, and encourage entrepreneurship.” He promises to battle extremism overseas by “training security forces in Libya, maintaining peace agreements between Israel and its neighbors, feeding the hungry in Yemen, building schools in Pakistan, and creating reservoirs of goodwill that marginalize extremists.”

    What the president does not seem to understand is that we do not have the money to build schools, upgrade education, modernize economies, and encourage entrepreneurship overseas at a time when our national debt is $16 trillion. And besides, isn’t it a deeply flawed idea that the US government can achieve all of these remarkable results overseas when we know what a disaster these big government undertakings have produced at home? What we reject at home as Soviet-style central planning is fully embraced as effective foreign policy overseas. Should it really be the US government’s role to “modernize economies” or “encourage entrepreneurs” anywhere? Those are activities best left to the private sector, whether here at home or in far off lands.

    President Obama’s speech is not at all what it seems. It is a call for more empire and more power to the executive branch. The president promises that “this war, like all wars, must end.” Unfortunately the war on the American taxpayer never seems to end. But end it will, as we are running out of money.
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  12. Kissinger Confronted As “Mass Murderer”

    “You coward! You self-serving coward! Get lost!”


    Paul Joseph Watson
    May 29, 2013


    Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger was confronted and labeled a “mass murderer” by We Are Change’s Luke Rudkowski during an event at which Kissinger was awarded a medal for his role in promoting “freedom and democracy.”



    The confrontation took place after Kissinger gave a speech at the “Salute To Freedom” event which took place last week at the Intrepid Sea, Air & Space Museum in New York.

    Filming the exchange via a spectacle-mounted camera while Kissinger sat down to dinner, Rudkowski asked Kissinger what he meant by the quote, “The illegal we do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer,” which emerged recently via a Wikileaks data dump.
    After a garbled response, Kissinger remarked, “What are you doing this for?”

    Rudkowski then asked, “We want to know what the agenda of the Bilderberg Group meeting’s going to be,” to which Kissinger responded, “Oh come on, get lost please, I said get lost!”

    Rudkowski continued, “How does it feel winning the freedom award when you’re wanted as a mass murderer and wanted in many countries and butchered millions of people?”

    “You coward! You self-serving coward – get lost!” Kissinger responded.

    “You know this freedom award’s a lie and you’re wanted for mass murder in different countries – you know it’s a lie,” remarked Rudkowski.

    Kissinger’s involvement in war crimes was best documented in Christopher Hitchens’ 2001 book The Trial of Henry Kissinger. After examining the evidence of Kissinger’s involvement in directing massacres in Vietnam, Bangladesh and Timor, as well as assassinations in Chile, Cyprus, and Washington, D.C., Hitchens concludes that Kissinger should be prosecuted “for war crimes, for crimes against humanity, and for offenses against common or customary or international law, including conspiracy to commit murder, kidnap, and torture.”

    Hitchens also asserted that Kissinger is “a stupendous liar with a remarkable memory.”

    A number of countries in South America and Europe have sought to question Kissinger about his actions during the Nixon and Ford administrations and several individuals have also attempted to make a citizens arrest.

    This is the third time that We Are Change have confronted Henry Kissinger. Watch the first two videos below, including Kissinger’s response to himself being quoted by Bob Woodward as saying, “Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”




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  13. McCain Visited Kidnappers in Syria

    Syria Report

    May 30, 2013

    A shocking report from pan-Arab TV station Al-Jadeed reveals America’s Republican Senator, John McCain, visited kidnappers of Lebanese pilgrims.

    Elizabeth O’Bagy, political director for the “Syrian Emergency Task Force” and , a U.S.-based nonprofit providing support to the opposition, allegedly organised the visit which brought McCain just half a mile inside Syria on Monday 27 May.

    The 76 year-old notoriously hawkish senator is particularly famous for singing a song consisting of the words “bomb, bomb, bomb Iran.”

    In one meeting inside the Syrian border at the Bab al-Salameh border border crossing, he held talks with Asifat al-Shamal (Northern Storm Brigade), which controls the crossing. Asifat al-Shamal is one of countless militant groups which make up the much reported “Free Syrian Army”, a term which has becoming increasingly redundant as sectarianism, religious extremism and Al-Qaeda ideology become the norm.

    In Elizabeth O’Bagy’s own Twitter commentary, she announced that McCain was hosted by the Asifat al-Shamal Brigade and met twenty “commanders” in total.


    Elizabeth O’Bagy announces details of the visit which she claims to have organised

    Soon after or during the snap visit, at least three photos surfaced showing McCain posing with various individuals.

    In the following images, McCain is posing with senior members of the Asifat al-Shamal Brigade as well as the chief of the “Free Syrian Army”, Salim Idriss.

    On May 22, 2012, dozens of Lebanese men and women were travelling on a bus through Syria on their way back to Lebanon from a pilgrimage to religious sites in Iran. After crossing the Turkish border into the Aleppo region, the bus was ambushed in Azzaz by around 30 gunmen, who forced several of the passengers to dismount at gunpoint. The militants instructed one of the passengers to go to the local police station, report the ambush and inform police officers of a desire to swap the hostages for two individuals being held by police.

    Following much global media coverage, it was alleged by supporters and apologists of armed groups that the hostages were “members of Hezbollah”, a predictable accusation, echoing countless war crimes in which the victims are accused of being somehow linked to the Syrian government. Usually, the victims are of a minority sect, underlining the overt sectarianism espoused by the thousand or so militant groups operating in Syria. Victims of the ambush say that they were never accused of being members of Hezbollah, but rather, that because they are Shia Muslims, they could be used as leverage to negotiate with the Syrian government. The same militant group, kidnapped Lebanese journalist Fidaa Itani in late 2012.

    In total, eleven men were kidnapped by the militant groups in Azzaz. The hostages have been regularly referred to as “the Forgotten” as they are still being held in captivity.

    Daniel Shoueib, a relative of one of the hostages, who was reading the news of McCain’s surprise and unexpected visit, was shocked to see the photo which showed men he recognised as the kidnappers on May 22, 2012. Daniel went on to criticise American policy, specifically the sponsoring and support of terror groups who are responsible for acts such as sectarian kidnappings. .. points to the sign in the larger version of the photo which among other words printed, says “New Syria”.

    Another relative, Hayat Aouali, spoke of the United States with its influence over armed militant groups, challenging its decision-makers to use the influence to bring about the release of the hostages, who are said to be held in circumstances involving maltreatment.

    Significantly, Turkey’s support for armed groups in Syria, especially for the organisation with which McCain visited in Syria, paints a bleak picture of regional positions toward Syria. Indeed, it appears to vindicate the Syrian government’s position that the insurgency and violence are a result of foreign intervention.

    Reporters from Lebanon’s Al-Jadeed TV met militants from the Asifat al-Shamal Brigade at the Bab al-Salameh border crossing, as did John McCain on Monday. In a screenshot of Al-Jadeed TV’s report, a man identified as Muahmmad Noor can be seen – a member of the militant brigade.


    In the images of McCain’s visit, the same man can be seen.

    The man behind McCain’s right shoulder is Abu Youssef. He stamped the passports of the Al-Jadeed TV staff when they visited Syria through the Bab al-Salameh border crossing. The following images show Abu Youssef in both a screenshot from the Al-Jadeed report and him posing with McCain during his visit.



    Abu Youssef to McCain’s behind-right


    Mohammad Noor & Abu Youssef


    The following is the report from Al-Jadeed TV. The clip was translated by Arabi Souri.

    Abu Youssef is spotted in a CNN report on McCain’s visit. Note that the man being interviewed is present in all of the photos of the senators visit – highlighting the mainstream media’s reliance on what it usually refers to as peaceful “activists”, despite there oftentimes active involvement in armed and usually sectarian militant organisations.



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  14. Breaking: Official Bilderberg Attendee List Released

    Invitees and agenda of talking points released

    Bilderberg Meetings
    June 3, 2013
    Here is the official list of attendees for the upcoming Bilderberg meeting at The Grove in Watford, England, as well as the agenda.

    Hertfordshire, England 6-9 June 2013

    Current list of Participants

    Status 3 June 2013

    Chairman
    FRA Castries, Henri de Chairman and CEO, AXA Group
    DEU Achleitner, Paul M. Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
    DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd
    GBR Agius, Marcus Former Chairman, Barclays plc
    GBR Alexander, Helen Chairman, UBM plc
    USA Altman, Roger C. Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners
    FIN Apunen, Matti Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    USA Athey, Susan Professor of Economics, Stanford Graduate School of Business
    TUR Aydıntaşbaş, Aslı Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper
    TUR Babacan, Ali Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs
    GBR Balls, Edward M. Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
    PRT Balsemão, Francisco Pinto Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA
    FRA Barré, Nicolas Managing Editor, Les Echos
    INT Barroso, José M. Durão President, European Commission
    FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    FRA Bavinchove, Olivier de Commander, Eurocorps
    GBR Bell, John Regius Professor of Medicine, University of Oxford
    ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A.
    USA Bezos, Jeff Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
    SWE Bildt, Carl Minister for Foreign Affairs
    SWE Borg, Anders Minister for Finance
    NLD Boxmeer, Jean François van Chairman of the Executive Board and CEO, Heineken N.V.
    NOR Brandtzæg, Svein Richard President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    AUT Bronner, Oscar Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt
    GBR Carrington, Peter Former Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings
    ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    CAN Clark, W. Edmund President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    GBR Clarke, Kenneth Member of Parliament
    DNK Corydon, Bjarne Minister of Finance
    GBR Cowper-Coles, Sherard Business Development Director, International, BAE Systems plc
    ITA Cucchiani, Enrico Tommaso CEO, Intesa Sanpaolo SpA
    BEL Davignon, Etienne Minister of State; Former Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings
    GBR Davis, Ian Senior Partner Emeritus, McKinsey & Company
    NLD Dijkgraaf, Robbert H. Director and Leon Levy Professor, Institute for Advanced Study
    TUR Dinçer, Haluk President, Retail and Insurance Group, Sabancı Holding A.S.
    GBR Dudley, Robert Group Chief Executive, BP plc
    USA Eberstadt, Nicholas N. Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute
    NOR Eide, Espen Barth Minister of Foreign Affairs
    SWE Ekholm, Börje President and CEO, Investor AB
    DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, EADS
    USA Evans, J. Michael Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co.
    DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    USA Feldstein, Martin S. Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER
    FRA Fillon, François Former Prime Minister
    USA Fishman, Mark C. President, Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research
    GBR Flint, Douglas J. Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
    IRL Gallagher, Paul Senior Counsel
    USA Geithner, Timothy F. Former Secretary of the Treasury
    USA Gfoeller, Michael Political Consultant
    USA Graham, Donald E. Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company
    DEU Grillo, Ulrich CEO, Grillo-Werke AG
    ITA Gruber, Lilli Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV
    ESP Guindos, Luis de Minister of Economy and Competitiveness
    GBR Gulliver, Stuart Group Chief Executive, HSBC Holdings plc
    CHE Gutzwiller, Felix Member of the Swiss Council of States
    NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
    FIN Heinonen, Olli Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School of Government
    GBR Henry, Simon CFO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    FRA Hermelin, Paul Chairman and CEO, Capgemini Group
    ESP Isla, Pablo Chairman and CEO, Inditex Group
    USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
    USA Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
    CHE Jordan, Thomas J. Chairman of the Governing Board, Swiss National Bank
    USA Jordan, Jr., Vernon E. Managing Director, Lazard Freres & Co. LLC
    USA Kaplan, Robert D. Chief Geopolitical Analyst, Stratfor
    USA Karp, Alex Founder and CEO, Palantir Technologies
    GBR Kerr, John Independent Member, House of Lords
    USA Kissinger, Henry A. Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    NLD Knot, Klaas H.W. President, De Nederlandsche Bank
    TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    DEU Koch, Roland CEO, Bilfinger SE
    USA Kravis, Henry R. Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
    USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
    CHE Kudelski, André Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
    GRC Kyriacopoulos, Ulysses Chairman, S&B Industrial Minerals S.A.
    INT Lagarde, Christine Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    DEU Lauk, Kurt J. Chairman of the Economic Council to the CDU, Berlin
    USA Lessig, Lawrence Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership, Harvard Law School; Director, Edmond J. Safra Center for Ethics, Harvard University
    BEL Leysen, Thomas Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
    DEU Lindner, Christian Party Leader, Free Democratic Party (FDP NRW)
    SWE Löfven, Stefan Party Leader, Social Democratic Party (SAP)
    DEU Löscher, Peter President and CEO, Siemens AG
    GBR Mandelson, Peter Chairman, Global Counsel; Chairman, Lazard International
    USA Mathews, Jessica T. President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    CAN McKenna, Frank Chair, Brookfield Asset Management
    GBR Micklethwait, John Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
    FRA Montbrial, Thierry de President, French Institute for International Relations
    ITA Monti, Mario Former Prime Minister
    USA Mundie, Craig J. Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
    ITA Nagel, Alberto CEO, Mediobanca
    NLD Netherlands, H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of The
    USA Ng, Andrew Y. Co-Founder, Coursera
    FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc
    GBR Omand, David Visiting Professor, King’s College London
    GBR Osborne, George Chancellor of the Exchequer
    USA Ottolenghi, Emanuele Senior Fellow, Foundation for Defense of Democracies
    TUR Özel, Soli Senior Lecturer, Kadir Has University; Columnist, Habertürk Newspaper
    GRC Papahelas, Alexis Executive Editor, Kathimerini Newspaper
    TUR Pavey, Şafak Member of Parliament (CHP)
    FRA Pécresse, Valérie Member of Parliament (UMP)
    USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
    USA Petraeus, David H. General, U.S. Army (Retired)
    PRT Portas, Paulo Minister of State and Foreign Affairs
    CAN Prichard, J. Robert S. Chair, Torys LLP
    INT Reding, Viviane Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission
    CAN Reisman, Heather M. CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
    FRA Rey, Hélène Professor of Economics, London Business School
    GBR Robertson, Simon Partner, Robertson Robey Associates LLP; Deputy Chairman, HSBC Holdings
    ITA Rocca, Gianfelice Chairman,Techint Group
    POL Rostowski, Jacek Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister
    USA Rubin, Robert E. Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
    NLD Rutte, Mark Prime Minister
    AUT Schieder, Andreas State Secretary of Finance
    USA Schmidt, Eric E. Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
    AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    PRT Seguro, António José Secretary General, Socialist Party
    FRA Senard, Jean-Dominique CEO, Michelin Group
    NOR Skogen Lund, Kristin Director General, Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise
    USA Slaughter, Anne-Marie Bert G. Kerstetter ’66 University Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University
    IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
    GBR Taylor, Martin Former Chairman, Syngenta AG
    INT Thiam, Tidjane Group CEO, Prudential plc
    USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital
    USA Thompson, Craig B. President and CEO, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
    DNK Topsøe, Jakob Haldor Partner, AMBROX Capital A/S
    FIN Urpilainen, Jutta Minister of Finance
    CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis AG
    GBR Voser, Peter R. CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    CAN Wall, Brad Premier of Saskatchewan
    SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
    USA Warsh, Kevin Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
    CAN Weston, Galen G. Executive Chairman, Loblaw Companies Limited
    GBR Williams of Crosby, Shirley Member, House of Lords
    GBR Wolf, Martin H. Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
    USA Wolfensohn, James D. Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
    GBR Wright, David Vice Chairman, Barclays plc
    INT Zoellick, Robert B. Distinguished Visiting Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics
    AUT Austria INT International
    BEL Belgium IRL Ireland
    CAN Canada ITA Italy
    CHE Switzerland NLD Netherlands
    DEU Germany NOR Norway
    DNK Denmark POL Poland
    ESP Spain PRT Portugal
    FIN Finland SWE Sweden
    FRA France TUR Turkey
    GBR Great Britain USA United States of America
    GRC Greece

    Bilderberg Agenda


    The 61st Bilderberg meeting is set to take place from 6 until 9 June 2013 in Hertfordshire, UK. A total of around 140 participants from 21 European and North American countries have confirmed their attendance. As ever, a diverse group of political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media have been invited. The list of participants is available on www.bilderbergmeetings.org

    The key topics for discussion this year include:

    • Can the US and Europe grow faster and create jobs?
    • Jobs, entitlement and debt
    • How big data is changing almost everything
    • Nationalism and populism
    • US foreign policy
    • Africa’s challenges
    • Cyber warfare and the proliferation of asymmetric threats
    • Major trends in medical research
    • Online education: promise and impacts
    • Politics of the European Union
    • Developments in the Middle East
    • Current affairs

    Founded in 1954, Bilderberg is an annual conference designed to foster dialogue between Europe and North America.
    Every year, between 120-150 political leaders and experts from industry, finance, academia and the media are invited to take part in the conference. About two thirds of the participants come from Europe and the rest from North America; one third from politics and government and the rest from other fields.

    The conference has always been a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world. Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights.

    There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued.
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  15. Its amazing how just a few years ago just mentioning the Bilderberg group you were persecuted as a conspiracy theorist and these meetings didnt exist. How the times are changing and people are becoming informed.

    British Bilderberg Participant Decries Group’s Secrecy

    Jurriaan Maessen
    June 5, 2013


    Bilderberg 2013 participant: “I’m honored to have been asked to go. But it’s crazy. They [the organizers] wouldn’t tell us where we were going to stay until a couple of weeks beforehand.”


    Sherard Cowper-Coles

    Sherard Cowper-Coles, former diplomat and current director at BAE told a reporter at the Standard that the organization’s veil of secrecy not only applies to the outside world, but also extends to those invited to participate.

    The Standard reported yesterday that “even those inside the perimeter are victims of Bilderberg’s steel ring of secrecy.” Journalist Joy Lo Dico quotes the influential BAE director as saying:

    “I’m honored to have been asked to go,” he told me last night in London. “But it’s crazy. They [the organizers] wouldn’t tell us where we were going to stay until a couple of weeks beforehand,” adding with a smirk: “Some people had to book their private jets in advance.”

    Cowper-Coles, who as former Special Representative to Afghanistan and Pakistan has extensive experience guarding British interests in the Middle-East, is not the first Bilderberg participant to openly criticize the way the group’s Steering Committee upholds the veil of secrecy that has shrouded any insight into the annual confab for the last 59 years.

    As Infowars reported today, there are obvious signs that some Bilderberg participants are now ventilating their discomfort with the Group’s unaccountable way of doing business, even contemplating a press-conference to appease protestors.

    Paul Joseph Watson reported that “a source close to the security operation for the 2013 Bilderberg Group conference has told Infowars that numerous members of the secretive organization are aggrieved at the way it is being operated with scant regard for transparency and are lobbying for Bilderberg steering committee members to allow them to address protesters this week.”

    According to Infowars’ source there are “a number” of participants involved in the meeting from tomorrow onward have criticized the meetings, even suggesting that a small delegation of Bilderberg members may come out and speak to the protesters and media set to assemble from June 6-9 at the Grove Hotel grounds. As Infowars relates today it’s very likely that the criticism is originating from the “Libertarian camp” within the group, most notably Peter Thiel- who is set to attend this year’s conference. Alex Jones, who has had contact with two separate contacts in the US Senate in the previous months, confirms that there is a discussion waging within Bilderberg about the issue of transparency.

    The latest words by this year’s participant Sherard Cowper-Coles underlines the fact that there appears to be a division within the Group, which makes it likely that the core Group may dissolve the annual meetings and retreat into other, lesser known meetings in the future.

    Jurriaan Maessen’s article first appeared at ExplosiveReports.Com.

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    Bilderberg Ring of Steel


    A ring of steel is being erected around the Grove, site of Bilderberg 2013.



    No Fly-Zone Enacted Over Bilderberg Meeting

    Police to use anti-terror laws and no-fly zone to secure Bilderberg Group conference at The Grove hotel, Watford

    Watford Observer
    Police to use anti-terror laws and no-fly zone to secure Bilderberg conference (From Watford Observer)
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  16. New World Order Secrecy: Who will be Attending the Bilderberg Meeting? What Will be Discussed Behind Closed Doors?



    By Prof Michel Chossudovsky

    Global Research, June 06, 2013

    Each year, the Bilderberg venue brings together leading members of the financial and corporate elite, politicians, handpicked scholars, journalists and scientists.

    It is An Anglo-Western European-North American Venue with participants from 21 Western countries (i.e Western Europe, US and Canada). With the exception of British born Polish Minister of Finance, Jacek Rostowski, there are no participants from Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Asia, Latin America, Africa and the Middle East (with the exception of Turkey). There are 14 women out of 140 participants.

    The official website of the Bilderberg describes the venue as “a forum for informal, off-the-record discussions about megatrends and the major issues facing the world.”

    Semi-secrecy prevails: While crucial negotiations are undertaken leading to far-reaching decisions, Prime Ministers and Finance Ministers in attendance are participating in their personal capacity; they are required not to report to Cabinet or to the Legislature.

    This year’s 61st meeting is scheduled to be held at the Grove Hotel near Watford, Hertfordshire, U.K., June 6-9, 2013.

    Various dimensions of the New World Order including the global economic crisis, the wars in the Middle East, biotechnology, cyber-warfare and Homeland security will be discussed behind closed doors.

    “Thanks to the private nature of the conference, the participants are not bound by the conventions of office or by pre-agreed positions. As such, they can take time to listen, reflect and gather insights.

    There is no detailed agenda, no resolutions are proposed, no votes are taken, and no policy statements are issued.” http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org

    The Venue will regroup some 140 participants including George Osborne, UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Henry Kissinger, Timothy Geithner, former Secretary of the Treasury, Gen. David Petraeous, former head of the CIA, Christine Lagarde, Managing Director of the IMF, Richard N. Perle, prominent adviser to the Bush Junior administration, Jeff Bezos, Founder and CEO of Amazon.com, Eric Schmidt of Google, two former presidents of the World Bank, James D. Wolfensohn and Robert B. Zoellick, among others.



    Prominent members of the Anglo-American financial establishment include David Wright, Vice Chairman of Barclays, J. Michael Evans, Vice Chairman of Goldman Sachs, Douglas J. Flint, Group Chairman of HSBC, Kenneth M. Jacobs, Chairman and CEO of Lazard, Peter D. Sutherland, chairman of Goldman Sachs International, Edmund Clark, President and CEO of Canada’s TD Bank Group. The Swiss banking establishment which overseas billions of dollars in undeclared “numbered bank accounts” is represented by Dr. Thomas Jakob Ulrich Jordan, the recently appointed Chairman of the Governing Board of the Schweizerische Nationalbank (Swiss National Bank).

    A handful of establishment journalists (Washington Post, Financial Times, Economist), economics professors, representatives from corporate thinks tanks including the American Enterprise Institute, Carnegie and the Council on Foreign Relations will also be in attendance.

    From the oil industry Simon Henry, CFO of Royal Dutch Shell and Robert Dudley, BP Group Chief Executive are on the list of participants.

    Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall will also be attending. Canada is the World’s second largest producer of uranium with most of the mining in Saskatchewan. Uranium is an important input into the production of nuclear warheads.

    Major trends in medical research are also on the agenda. Prominent leaders of the pharmaceutical industry include Mark C. Fishman, President of Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research, together with Dr. John Bell (left), Professor of Medicine at Oxford, who is a leading authority in biotechnology, working closely with Big Pharma.

    Bilderberg has confirmed that global data banks pertaining to Homeland Security will be discussed under the heading of “big data” and that Eric Schmidt of Google will be addressing the topic.

    The official list is not complete. In all likelihood, the names of several prominent delegates are not made public.

    An earlier report by Infowars.com quoting “inside sources” stated that the Middle East war discussions would focus on “prolonging war on Syria by arming anti-Assad elements” as well as destroying Iran’s nuclear facilities within a three year period.

    According to the Bilderberg website, the following vaguely defined topics will be discussed: (note from ax1: this is only the "official" list of topics)

    • Can the US and Europe grow faster and create jobs?
    • Jobs, entitlement and debt
    • How big data is changing almost everything
    • Nationalism and populism
    • US foreign policy
    • Africa’s challenges
    • Cyber warfare and the proliferation of asymmetric threats
    • Major trends in medical research
    • Online education: promise and impacts
    • Politics of the European Union
    • Developments in the Middle East
    • Current affairs


    Continued on next post......
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  17. .......Continued from previous post

    ( (note from ax1: this is only the "official" guest list.)

    Bilderberg Group meeting, June 6-9, 2013 – Full List of Participants

    Chairman: Henri de Castries, Chairman and CEO, AXA Group
    Paul M. Achleitner, Chairman of the Supervisory Board, Deutsche Bank AG
    Josef Ackermann, Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd
    Marcus Agius, Former Chairman, Barclays plc
    Helen Alexander, Chairman, UBM plc
    Roger C. Altman, Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners
    Matti Apunen, Director, Finnish Business and Policy Forum EVA
    Susan Athey, Professor of Economics, Stanford Graduate School of Business
    Aslı Aydıntaşbaş, Columnist, Milliyet Newspaper
    Ali Babacan, Turkish Deputy Prime Minister for Economic and Financial Affairs
    Ed Balls, Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer
    Francisco Pinto Balsemão, Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA
    Nicolas Barré, Managing Editor, Les Echos
    José Manuel Barroso, President, European Commission
    Nicolas Baverez, Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    Olivier de Bavinchove, Commander, Eurocorps
    John Bell, Regius Professor of Medicine, University of Oxford
    Franco Bernabè, Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia S.p.A.
    Jeff Bezos, Founder and CEO, Amazon.com
    Carl Bildt, Swedish Minister for Foreign Affairs
    Anders Borg, Swedish Minister for Finance
    Jean François van Boxmeer, CEO, Heineken
    Svein Richard Brandtzæg, President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    Oscar Bronner, Publisher, Der Standard Medienwelt
    Peter Carrington, Former Honorary Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings
    Juan Luis Cebrián, Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    Edmund Clark, President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    Kenneth Clarke, Cabinet Minister
    Bjarne Corydon, Danish Minister of Finance
    Sherard Cowper-Coles, Business Development Director, International, BAE Systems plc
    Enrico Cucchiani, CEO, Intesa Sanpaolo SpA
    Etienne Davignon, Belgian Minister of State; Former Chairman, Bilderberg Meetings
    Ian Davis, Senior Partner Emeritus, McKinsey & Company
    Robbert H. Dijkgraaf, Director and Leon Levy Professor, Institute for Advanced Study
    Haluk Dinçer, President, Retail and Insurance Group, Sabancı Holding A.S.
    Robert Dudley, Group Chief Executive, BP plc
    Nicholas N. Eberstadt, Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy, American Enterprise Institute
    Espen Barth Eide, Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs
    Börje Ekholm, President and CEO, Investor AB
    Thomas Enders, CEO, EADS
    J. Michael Evans, Vice Chairman, Goldman Sachs & Co.
    Ulrik Federspiel, Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    Martin S.Feldstein, Professor of Economics, Harvard University; President Emeritus, NBER
    François Fillon, Former French Prime Minister
    Mark C. Fishman, President, Novartis Institutes for BioMedical Research
    Douglas J. Flint, Group Chairman, HSBC Holdings plc
    Paul Gallagher, Senior Counsel
    Timothy F Geithner, Former Secretary of the Treasury
    Michael Gfoeller, US Political Consultant
    Donald E. Graham, Chairman and CEO, The Washington Post Company
    Ulrich Grillo, CEO, Grillo-Werke AG
    Lilli Gruber, Journalist – Anchorwoman, La 7 TV
    Luis de Guindos, Spanish Minister of Economy and Competitiveness
    Stuart Gulliver, Group Chief Executive, HSBC Holdings plc
    Felix Gutzwiller, Member of the Swiss Council of States
    Victor Halberstadt, Professor of Economics, Leiden University; Former Honorary Secretary General of Bilderberg Meetings
    Olli Heinonen, Senior Fellow, Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs, Harvard Kennedy School of Government
    Simon Henry, CFO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    Paul Hermelin, Chairman and CEO, Capgemini Group
    Pablo Isla, Chairman and CEO, Inditex Group
    Kenneth M. Jacobs, Chairman and CEO, Lazard
    James A. Johnson, Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
    Thomas J. Jordan, Chairman of the Governing Board, Swiss National Bank
    Vernon E. Jordan, Jr., Managing Director, Lazard Freres & Co. LLC
    Robert D. Kaplan, Chief Geopolitical Analyst, Stratfor
    Alex Karp, Founder and CEO, Palantir Technologies
    John Kerr, Independent Member, House of Lords
    Henry A. Kissinger, Chairman, Kissinger Associates, Inc.
    Klaus Kleinfeld, Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    Klaas H.W. Knot, President, De Nederlandsche Bank
    Mustafa V Koç,. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    Roland Koch, CEO, Bilfinger SE
    Henry R. Kravis, Co-Chairman and Co-CEO, Kohlberg Kravis Roberts & Co.
    Marie-Josée Kravis, Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
    André Kudelski, Chairman and CEO, Kudelski Group
    Ulysses Kyriacopoulos, Chairman, S&B Industrial Minerals S.A.
    Christine Lagarde, Managing Director, International Monetary Fund
    J. Kurt Lauk, Chairman of the Economic Council to the CDU, Berlin
    Lawrence Lessig, Roy L. Furman Professor of Law and Leadership, Harvard Law School
    Thomas Leysen, Chairman of the Board of Directors, KBC Group
    Christian Lindner, Party Leader, Free Democratic Party (FDP NRW)
    Stefan Löfven, Party Leader, Social Democratic Party (SAP)
    Peter Löscher, President and CEO, Siemens AG
    Peter Mandelson, Chairman, Global Counsel; Chairman, Lazard International
    Jessica T. Mathews, President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    Frank McKenna, Chair, Brookfield Asset Management
    John Micklethwait, Editor-in-Chief, The Economist
    Thierry de Montbrial, President, French Institute for International Relations
    Mario Monti, Former Italian Prime Minister
    Craig J. Mundie, Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
    Alberto Nagel, CEO, Mediobanca
    H.R.H. Princess Beatrix of The Netherlands
    Andrew Y.Ng, Co-Founder, Coursera
    Jorma Ollila, Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell, plc
    David Omand, Visiting Professor, King’s College London
    George Osborne, Chancellor of the Exchequer
    Emanuele Ottolenghi, Senior Fellow, Foundation for Defense of Democracies
    Soli Özel, Senior Lecturer, Kadir Has University; Columnist, Habertürk Newspaper
    Alexis Papahelas, Executive Editor, Kathimerini Newspaper
    Şafak Pavey, Turkish MP
    Valérie Pécresse, French MP
    Richard N. Perle, Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
    David H. Petraeus, General, U.S. Army (Retired)
    Paulo Portas, Portugal Minister of State and Foreign Affairs
    J. Robert S Prichard, Chair, Torys LLP
    Viviane Reding, Vice President and Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, European Commission
    Heather M. Reisman, CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
    Hélène Rey, Professor of Economics, London Business School
    Simon Robertson, Partner, Robertson Robey Associates LLP; Deputy Chairman, HSBC Holdings
    Gianfelice Rocca, Chairman,Techint Group
    Jacek Rostowski, Minister of Finance and Deputy Prime Minister
    Robert E. Rubin, Co-Chairman, Council on Foreign Relations; Former Secretary of the Treasury
    Mark Rutte, Dutch Prime Minister
    Andreas Schieder, Austrian State Secretary of Finance
    Eric E. Schmidt, Executive Chairman, Google Inc.
    Rudolf Scholten, Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    António José Seguro, Secretary General, Portuguese Socialist Party
    Jean-Dominique Senard, CEO, Michelin Group
    Kristin Skogen Lund, Director General, Confederation of Norwegian Enterprise
    Anne-Marie Slaughter, Bert G. Kerstetter ’66 University Professor of Politics and International Affairs, Princeton University
    Peter D. Sutherland, Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
    Martin Taylor, Former Chairman, Syngenta AG
    Tidjane Thiam, Group CEO, Prudential plc
    Peter A. Thiel, President, Thiel Capital
    Craig B. Thompson, President and CEO, Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center
    Jakob Haldor Topsøe, Partner, AMBROX Capital A/S
    Jutta Urpilainen, Finnish Minister of Finance
    Daniel L. Vasella, Honorary Chairman, Novartis AG
    Peter R. Voser, CEO, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    Brad Wall, Premier of Saskatchewan Province, Canada
    Jacob Wallenberg, Chairman, Investor AB
    Kevin Warsh, Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
    Galen G.Weston, Executive Chairman, Loblaw Companies Limited
    Baroness Williams of Crosby, Member, House of Lords
    Martin H. Wolf, Chief Economics Commentator, The Financial Times
    James D. Wolfensohn, Chairman and CEO, Wolfensohn and Company
    David Wright, Vice Chairman, Barclays plc
    Robert B. Zoellick, Distinguished Visiting Fellow, Peterson Institute for International Economics


    The Bilderberg Chairman is
    Henri de Castries, Chairman and CEO, AXA Group

    The Members of the Bilderberg Steering committee are:

    DEU Ackermann, Josef Chairman of the Board, Zurich Insurance Group Ltd
    GBR Agius, Marcus Former Chairman, Barclays plc
    USA Altman, Roger C. Executive Chairman, Evercore Partners
    PRT Balsemão, Francisco P. Chairman and CEO, IMPRESA
    FRA Baverez, Nicolas Partner, Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP
    ITA Bernabè, Franco Chairman and CEO, Telecom Italia
    NOR Brandtzæg, Svein R. President and CEO, Norsk Hydro ASA
    ESP Cebrián, Juan Luis Executive Chairman, Grupo PRISA
    CAN Clark, W. Edmund President and CEO, TD Bank Group
    GBR Clarke, Kenneth Member of Parliament
    BEL Davignon, Etienne Minister of State
    DEU Enders, Thomas CEO, EADS
    DNK Federspiel, Ulrik Executive Vice President, Haldor Topsøe A/S
    NLD Halberstadt, Victor Professor of Public Economics, Leiden University
    USA Jacobs, Kenneth M. Chairman and CEO, Lazard
    USA Johnson, James A. Chairman, Johnson Capital Partners
    GBR Kerr, John Independent Member, House of Lords
    USA Kleinfeld, Klaus Chairman and CEO, Alcoa
    TUR Koç, Mustafa V. Chairman, Koç Holding A.S.
    USA Kravis, Marie-Josée Senior Fellow and Vice Chair, Hudson Institute
    USA Mathews, Jessica T. President, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
    USA Mundie, Craig J. Senior Advisor to the CEO, Microsoft Corporation
    FIN Ollila, Jorma Chairman, Royal Dutch Shell plc
    USA Perle, Richard N. Resident Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
    CAN Reisman, Heather M. CEO, Indigo Books & Music Inc.
    AUT Scholten, Rudolf Member of the Board of Executive Directors, Oesterreichische Kontrollbank AG
    IRL Sutherland, Peter D. Chairman, Goldman Sachs International
    USA Thiel, Peter A. President, Thiel Capital
    INT Trichet, Jean-Claude Honorary Governor, Banque de France; Former President, European Central Bank
    GRC Tsoukalis, Loukas President, ELIAMEP
    CHE Vasella, Daniel L. Honorary Chairman, Novartis AG
    SWE Wallenberg, Jacob Chairman, Investor AB
    USA Warsh, Kevin Distinguished Visiting Fellow, The Hoover Institution, Stanford University
    David Rockefeller is a member of the Advisory Group
    http://www.bilderbergmeetings.org/governance.html
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  18. wonder if Obama will stop by

  19. Quote Originally Posted by carpee View Post
    wonder if Obama will stop by
    Barry Soetoro is in Cali right now holding meetings with our prosperous ally of compassion and great holder of significance, China along with President Xi Jinping. But perhaps the two lovebirds have time to stop over at the Bilderberg's vacation home, the Bohemian Grove and hire male hookers and have orgies under that giant owl.
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  20. Obama: “Nobody is listening to your phone calls” But What About Your Dishwasher?

    Daniel Taylor
    Old-Thinker News
    June 8, 2013

    In response to “revelations” that the National Security Agency is collecting vast amounts of information from Verizon customers, Obama told the press that “Nobody is listening to your phone calls.”



    Whew. We can all take a deep breath of relief now. Obama says no one is watching. Or are they?

    The fact is, a much wider system of surveillance is being built. It goes well beyond monitoring phone calls and e-mails. The computer you are reading this on, your washing machine, coffee maker, and other devices will be “wired” in the near future. They will be transmitting data to the “internet of things.” According to CIA chief David Patraeus these technologies will have a monumental impact on “clandestine tradecraft.”

    Consumer appliances are now becoming activated and “smart.” RFID chips and wireless internet connections enable devices like televisions, refrigerators, printers, and computers to communicate with each other and generally make life easier for us. This comes at a price, however. Your privacy is eliminated.

    With this surveillance grid in place, David Patraeus says that “Items of interest will be located, identified, monitored, and remotely controlled through technologies such as radio-frequency identification, sensor networks, tiny embedded servers, and energy harvesters — all connected to the next-generation internet using abundant, low-cost, and high-power computing…”

    South Korea has served as a testing ground for this type of technology. The city of New Songdo was used because, according to those involved, “There is an historical expectation of less privacy.” If you want to unplug from this grid, the United Kingdom’s Ministry of Defense says that eventually, “Even amongst those who make an explicit life-style choice to remain detached, choosing to be disconnected may be considered suspicious behaviour.”

    Daniel Taylor’s post first appeared on Old-thinker News.

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    Kerry’s Secret Gift to Egypt

    Last month John Kerry quietly approved huge arms shipments to Egypt—despite Cairo’s ongoing violation of human rights. Josh Rogin reports.

    Josh Rogin
    thedailybeast.com
    June 7, 2013


    While employees of American NGOs sat in Egyptian prisons, Secretary of State John Kerry quietly waived the law that would prevent the U.S. from sending the Egyptian military $1.3 billion worth of weapons this year.

    Congress erupted in anger June 4, when Egyptian courts sentenced 43 NGO workers, including 16 Americans, to jail terms of up to five years for working in NGOs not registered with the government. Only one of those Americans, the National Democratic Institute’s Robert Becker, actually stayed in Egypt to await the verdict. He was given two years in prison. The other American organizations targeted included the International Republican Institute and Freedom House. All of those organizations had been operating in the open in Egypt for several years before the government raided their offices and forced them to flee the country in December 2011.

    But what most in Congress didn’t know was that on May 10, Kerry had waived the restrictions lawmakers had put in place to make sure that U.S. military aid to Egypt wouldn’t continue unless Egypt made progress on its path to democracy, rule of law, and human rights. The State Department’s notification of Kerry’s move, which was never released to the public, was obtained by The Daily Beast.

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  21. Im pleasantly surprised how mainstream te Bilderberg group has gotten, it was just a few years ago its mention would classify one as a tin foiled conspiracy theorist and how non of this existed. Thanks to the work of independent reporting and alternative media, Bilderberg is finally being forced into mainstream.

    Bilderberg Secrecy Exposed During Parliamentary Debate

    Unprecedented insight opens up conflict of interest charges

    Paul Joseph Watson
    June 10, 2013

    The secrecy of the Bilderberg Group was blown wide open during a Parliamentary debate in the House of Commons today when Ken Clarke was forced to defend himself against potentially damaging evidence of a conflict of interest surrounding his role as a steering committee member of the clandestine organization.

    MP's Discuss Bilderberg in the House of Commons



    MP Michael Meacher asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer George Osborne, an attendee to the confab, to make a statement regarding Bilderberg.

    However, the question was answered by Bilderberg steering committee member Ken Clarke, who was forced to embarrassingly claim he had “forgotten” that the organization’s meetings were paid for by funds raised by the Bilderberg Association.

    Despite acknowledging he had been on the steering committee for 10 years at the start of his response, Clarke later claimed he had “forgotten” that he was trustee of the British steering group and was now, “checking with the aid of my constituency secretary, whether I put that in.”

    Sensationally, an article by the Telegraph documenting Clarke’s conflict of interest was deleted within one hour of it being published – once again illustrating how Bilderberg holds sway over a compliant mainstream media.

    Clarke’s failure to declare his his trusteeship of the body that funds the organization is a clear conflict of interest and is set to cause even more spotlight to be thrown on Bilderberg following an explosive live appearance by Alex Jones on the BBC.

    Although it appears the Telegraph misquoted Clarke, which is probably why the article was pulled, the main thrust of the piece was to point out Clarke’s failure to declare his position as a trustee.

    The majority of the House of Commons debate was a juvenile affair that gave Clarke and fellow Bilderberg member Ed Balls the opportunity to whitewash the organization as a mere talking shop, despite innumerable examples of Bilderberg setting the consensus for policy years in advance.

    The original Telegraph article that was pulled appears below.

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    Can't believe this guy is being considered a traitor...


  23. Quote Originally Posted by purebred View Post
    Can't believe this guy is being considered a traitor...
    There is a war between our goverment and journalists/whistle-blowers that has been underway for some time.

    The fact is Obama has issued more subpenas to journalists and whistle-blowers more so than any other president combined in history since the 1917 espionage act.

    If this guy is a traitor, all those who support what he did to defend our human rights is a traitor (to our big bro anyhow.)
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  24. Ron Paul praises Edward Snowden

    By Rachel Weiner, Published: June 10, 2013
    Washington Post


    Edward Snowden, who appears to have donated to Ron Paul’s presidential campaign in 2012, has gotten some support from the former Texas congressman.

    “We should be thankful for individuals like Edward Snowden and Glenn Greenwald who see injustice being carried out by their own government and speak out, despite the risk,” said Paul in a statement on the Web site of Campaign for Liberty, his nonprofit. “They have done a great service to the American people by exposing the truth about what our government is doing in secret.” Glenn Greenwald is a reporter for the Guardian, which first published the story revealing the scope of the U.S. government’s surveillance programs.

    Snowden revealed himself on Sunday as the leaker of top-secret documents from the National Security Agency. Campaign finance records show that an “Edward Snowden” who appears to be the man self-identified as the leaker contributed $250 to Paul’s presidential campaign twice in 2012.

    In his statement, Paul condemned the secret collection of phone and Internet data that was exposed by Snowden’s leak. “The government does not need to know more about what we are doing,” he said. “We need to know more about what the government is doing.”

    Paul’s son Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has also seized on the issue and says he plans to launch a class-action lawsuit against the NSA.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...dward-snowden/
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    Ron Paul: ‘When you have a dictatorship… truth becomes treasonous’

    “Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.”

    Adan Salazar
    June 11, 2013

    Former Congressman Ron Paul offered up a heaping portion of Constitutional liberty on CNN’s Piers Morgan Live yesterday when he addressed the recent NSA spy grid scandal, which has linked several high tech giants, including Facebook, Microsoft and Skype, to a secret program in which the government agency was allowed access to those companies’ servers.



    Asked if he considered NSA contractor turned whistleblower Edward Snowden a hero, Paul answered, “Well… he’s done a great service because he’s telling the truth and this is what we are starved for. The American people are starved for the truth.”

    Snowden’s actions, first reported by the UK’s Guardian newspaper and next the Washington Post, have come under fierce scrutiny by members on both sides of the political divide, leading several politicians to label him a “traitor” and his leak of government secrets “treasonous.”

    According to Paul, these are the tell-tale signs of a dictatorial government: “And when you have a dictatorship or an authoritarian government, truth becomes treasonous. And this is what they do if you are a whistleblower, or if you are trying to tell the American people that our country is destroying our rule of law and destroying our Constitution, they turn it around and say, ‘You’re committing treason…’”

    The former Texas rep and three-time presidential candidate also spoke of the NSA’s scandal in terms of violating the Fourth Amendment, saying, “So essentially there is no Fourth Amendment anymore, and for somebody to tell the American people the truth is a heroic effort, and [Snowden] knows that it’s very risky. He knows he’s committing civil disobedience and he knows that he could get punished, but he believes… that what our government is doing to us is so serious that somebody has to speak out.”

    Eliciting snickers from Morgan, Paul also joked that President Obama should actually thank Snowden for forcing him to fulfill a campaign promise, stating “Matter of fact, I think the president ought to send him a thank you letter, because the president ran on transparency and we’re getting a lot of transparency now. So finally we’re getting the president to fulfill his promise about transparency, so that’s pretty exciting for me.”

    Meanwhile, Morgan’s in-studio guest, Robert James Woolsey, Jr., a former CIA boss, found it difficult to answer whether what the NSA is doing violates the Fourth Amendment.


    R. James Woolsey, Jr.

    Morgan: I just don’t see how you can say what is going on here in complete secrecy from 99 percent of the people it is being done to lives up to the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. It is palpably a breach isn’t it?

    Woolsey:
    Well, it depends on whether or not you want to preserve the country’s ability to operate in a world of terrorism in which a lot of terrorists are very technically sophisticated. If you want to defend the country you’re going to have to defend it.

    Morgan: Right, I understand that…but that wasn’t the question.

    Woolsey: It is the question. It is the question. That balance between security and liberty is the question.

    Congressman Paul later retorted, “What he’s doing is repealing the Magna Carta. You can’t just do these kind of things. And this one is not only repealing the principles of liberty, but it’s destroying the Constitution.”

    Continuing, Paul questioned what should be done with Constitutional traitors. “So my question should be to all of you who defend this nonsense is, ‘What should the penalty be for the people who destroy the constitution?’ They’re always worried about how they’re going to destroy the American citizens who tell the truth to let us know what’s going on, but we ask the question, ‘What is the penalty for the people who deliberately destroy the Constitution and rationalize and say, “Well, we have to do it for security”?’ Well, you know what Franklin said about that,” recalling Founding Father Benjamin Franklin’s famous quote, paraphrased, “Those who sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.”

    Woolsey is an establishment fixture often trotted out to disseminate the fabled threat of terrorism, and is the same person who warned in Feb. 2012 that the Statue of Liberty would be a target for Iranian terrorists hellbent on retaliating against the U.S. for shutting down their nuclear program.

    When confronted by We Are Change’s Luke Rudkowski in March 2011, Woolsey denied former CIA director William Colby’s charge that the CIA owns “everyone of any significance in the major media.” He is also blamed for a gag order placed on 9/11 first responders forbidding them to speak about inside knowledge of the events of that day.
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  25. Ron Paul: I’m worried that the government might kill Edward Snowden with a drone

    Charlie Spiering
    Washington Examiner
    June 12, 2013




    During an interview with FOX Business, former Rep. Ron Paul explained that he was concerned about the well-being of National Security Agency whistle-blower Edward Snowden.

    “I’m worried about somebody in our government might kill him with a cruise missile or a drone missile,” Paul explained. “I mean we live in a bad time where American citizens don’t even have rights and that they can be killed, but the gentlemen is trying to tell the truth about what’s going on.”

    Paul added that there were no signs of Snowden defecting to a foreign country, which meant that he was not really a threat.

    “It’s a shame that we are in an age where people who tell the truth about what the government is doing gets into trouble,” he concluded.

    Full story here.

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    Ron Paul: Why Are Republicans Defending Obama Over NSA Spying?

    RINO’s line up to support big government

    Paul Joseph Watson
    June 12, 2013

    During an appearance on MSNBC’s Daily Rundown, former Congressman Ron Paul questioned why Republicans are coming to the defense of big government and the Obama administration by calling for NSA whistleblower Ed Snowden to be arrested.



    Challenging the demonization of Snowden by lawmakers on both sides of the aisle who have accused the whistleblower of committing treason, Paul lambasted Republicans such as John Boehner for siding with Obama.

    “The political foolishness of Republicans running to rescue Obama – the American people are sick and tired of all this snooping, prying and surveillance, so the Republicans run to the rescue of Obama and say ‘we passed those laws, they’re good laws, we want to preserve those laws’ – so it doesn’t even make political sense,” said Paul.

    In the aftermath of the scandal, numerous Republicans have called for Snowden to be arrested rather than defending him as a patriot who gave up his life to warn that Constitutional rights are being eviscerated by the National Security Agency.

    - New York Republican Peter King called for “extradition proceedings at the earliest date” and for Snowden to be prosecuted.

    - The Republican head of the House intelligence committee, Mike Rogers, said Snowden had “released just enough information to literally be dangerous.”

    - South Carolina Republican Lindsey Graham described Snowden’s actions as, “not as one of patriotism but potentially a felony.”

    - House Speaker John Boehner went further, labeling Snowden a “traitor” who should be dealt with as an enemy of the state.

    Ron Paul acknowledged that what Snowden did was technically illegal, but warned that the far bigger threat came from big government. “It is probably illegal, there are laws against this, but what about people who are breaking the law, violating the Constitution….which one has the higher order – the Constitution, the written law, or the authority of the executive branch who controls the enforcement of laws?” asked Paul, adding that the bigger the government grew, the greater the threat.

    Paul labeled Snowden a “hero” for taking a risk in telling the truth and said that people in authority should be questioned for breaking the law.
    The former Congressman noted that Snowden was forced to go public because going to the FBI and other government agencies “doesn’t seem to pan out very well.”

    Paul questioned why the NSA needed to vacuum up all telephone data in order to catch a minority of bad guys, remarking, “If they’re looking for ten people why do they have to look at 300 million people’s activities – it makes no sense whatsoever – it’s such a blatant violation of the language of the Constitution, the 4th amendment.”

    Ron Paul echoed the sentiments of his son Rand in advocating that the Supreme Court be used to decide the constitutionality of NSA spying, but added that educating people about their liberties and the threat posed by big government was equally important.

    “When you have big government, you have this kind of abuse….abuse comes from big government and the natural tendency of individuals who hold this power to abuse it….if we expect the government to be the nanny state it’ll be big, it’ll be abusive,” said Paul.

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    Rep. Steve Stockman Says Obama Uses NSA On Tea Party, Protects Terrorists

    Donna Anderson
    June 12, 2013

    “Those who surrender freedom for security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one.”
    ― Benjamin Franklin

    In response to media concerns over reports that the NSA has been spying on communications between millions of law-abiding American citizens, President Obama said, “You can’t have 100-percent security and also have 100-percent privacy and zero inconvenience. We’re going to have to make some choices as a society.” But is the promise of security really worth sacrificing our freedoms?



    During an appearance on the Alex Jones show, Rep. Steve Stockman (R-Texas) said the NSA (National Security Agency) spying scandal was par for the course. “It follows with Obama’s intent to focus on the citizens as the criminal and the terrorists are not to be investigated. The Tea Party and average citizens have become the target. It’s alarming that we do live in an Orwellian world where good is bad and bad is good, and it’s now targeting American citizens over the terrorists.”

    Stockman also said he didn’t understand why more Americans weren’t outraged. “What I don’t understand is, people outside of your listeners, you interview them or talk to them, it’s puzzling to me at what degree they’re willing to give up their individual freedoms for the perception of security, and we both know that when you give up your individual liberties you soon have neither.”

    In a series of Tweets sent after the announcement of the NSA spy scandal, Stockman reminded followers, “The Democrats defending IRS abuses and illegal spying programs are the same ones who insist they would never abuse a gun registry data base.”

    But he also gave folks on Twitter a chuckle: “No. Honest to God. I really did call, just ask Obama!”

    Obama isn’t the first president to spy on American citizens. The Bush administration ordered the NSA to engage in warrantless surveillance of U.S. citizen’s phone calls and emails in response to the 9/11 terrorist attacks. In 2008, legislation was passed that permitted the NSA to seek a generalized warrant from the court to allow surveillance on anyone the agency “reasonably” believed to be involved in terrorism, whether they were a U.S. citizen or not.

    In 2009, the NSA admitted they’d reached well beyond the boundaries set forth in 2008 and engaged in “overcollection” of communications belonging to U.S. citizens without any connection to terrorism at all.

    So Obama isn’t the first, he’s merely the president who plans to put the icing on the cake.

    In 2010, under Obama, the F.B.I. proposed expanding the 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act, a law that requires phone and network carriers to build interception capabilities into their systems. Under the existing law, the F.B.I. must have a search warrant and currently, judges simply ask the service providers to comply with law enforcement. The provider can always use the excuse that he doesn’t have the capability to comply.

    Just last month, buried under the news of the AP and IRS scandals, Obama moved closer to endorsing legislation that will make it even easier to put a tap on anyone he wants. Under the new law, judges will no longer request, they’ll order providers to comply, and if they don’t they’ll face fines starting at $25,000 per day.

    The new plan will also require Internet giants like Facebook and Google to build backdoors into their systems that will enable government surveillance at-will.

    By criminalizing those Americans who disagree with him and classifying anyone who speaks against his plans for takeover as an “extremist,” Obama and his administration have convinced Americans that he’s only looking out for their best interests and the safety of our country.

    But Stockman reminds us that we need to look beyond the smoke and mirrors. “The NSA can keep tabs on anyone including federal judges, senators and average citizens. This is massive abuse. These are the same guys who want you to register your guns. They can’t keep this data private so how can they keep gun registrations private?”
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