Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Yea I agree, I still believe that Operation Northwoods wasn't supposed to be released during their usual JFK file dumps, it seems to me that someone did that on purpose in 1997 in the FOIA office. The war in Iraq was starting to be staged in 1998, PNAC or neoconservatives were talking about a new pearl harbor incident in 2000. So it would be against their interests to have the public aware of that their gov't can do such a thing.
    The thing is...its such an explosive document I wonder if they intentionally accidentally leaked it (and other documents we have seen) just to slowly desensitize people to goverment tyranny.

    Another example is they admitted to the Gulf on Tonkin incident and how that was a false flag operation to start a way that caused the death of 60,000 of our troops and where is the outrage? Where are the vets, or they just hiding them from public that well, but I think people are being desensitized.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    if you can name even one governing body of any type throughout history that hasn't lied to it's people i want to hear it....lying to the people is what governments/leaders have done, are doing, and will continue to do....it's in our best interest, don't you know!!!
    Preach it bro
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Whacked View Post
    Preach it bro
    i get pissed when corporations want something passed and buy off politicians to get it done, then have the audacity to tell us it is in our best interest....the big one that comes to my mind is f*cking seatbelts, everytime i get in my car and have to "buckle up for safety sake" i turn red!!! insurance companies were the driving force and put a ton of money in politicians hands to get it passed...

    the united states government is a buy here pay here government, with the right money they are up for grabs......but this is the nature of government, every government or ruling body is corrupt by nature....power corrupts!!!

    if anyone thinks politicians will vote for whats best for the mojority of people over lobbyists offering summer homes in the hamptons and trips to the french riviera they are suffering from delusions of grandeur.....i wonder how many senators and congressmen could hold up to a true audit by the irs that holds them accountable for every dollar, the same kind of audit the average citizen is subject to...my money says they are exempt, after all-they write the laws!!!
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  4. So who is our veterans greatest threat? Al-cia-da (aka queda) or goverment run health care? Good luck with Obamacare folks, our vets who the goverment pretends to adore and cherish was just beta testing....now its everybody's turn! Meanwhile, if your an illegal immigrant just cross the border and get AAA free medical care on the spot, welfare + foodstamps and an Obamaphone!

    Poor care at VA hospitals cost 1,000 veterans their lives, report says


    $1B in malpractice settlements as horror stories revealed

    The Washington Times
    June 24, 2014



    The problems at Veterans Affairs extend well beyond long wait lists, with a report Tuesday showing the department is plagued with poor care that has cost up to 1,000 veterans their lives and left taxpayers on the hook for nearly $1 billion in malpractice settlements since the beginning of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Some of the problems detailed in the report by Sen. Tom Coburn of Oklahoma are downright ghoulish. They include the case of a former security chief at a New York Veterans Affairs medical center whom the FBI arrested on charges of plotting to kidnap, rape and murder women and children.

    More standard is the nightmarish bureaucratic bungling that shows a department in disarray and a culture more concerned with punishing whistleblowers than with fixing the problems they pointed out, said Mr. Coburn, Senate Republicans’ chief investigator who has earned a reputation as the top waste-watcher in Congress.

    For full story click link below to Washington times:

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  5. Ukraine air traffic controller suggests Kiev military shot down passenger plane

    Not known where the order to shoot down the plane originated from


    Image Credits: United States Navy

    by eTurboNews | Global Travel News Agency
    July 17, 2014


    ETN received information from an air traffic controller in Kiev on Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.

    This Kiev air traffic controller is a citizen of Spain and was working in the Ukraine. He was taken off duty as a civil air-traffic controller along with other foreigners immediately after a Malaysia Airlines passenger aircraft was shot down over the Eastern Ukraine killing 295 passengers and crew on board.

    The air traffic controller suggested in a private evaluation and basing it on military sources in Kiev, that the Ukrainian military was behind this shoot down. Radar records were immediately confiscated after it became clear a passenger jet was shot down.

    Military air traffic controllers in internal communication acknowledged the military was involved, and some military chatter said they did not know where the order to shoot down the plane originated from.

    Obviously it happened after a series of errors, since the very same plane was escorted by two Ukrainian fighter jets until 3 minutes before it disappeared from radar.

    Radar screen shots also show an unexplained change of course of the Malaysian Boeing. The change of course took the aircraft directly over the Eastern Ukraine conflict region.

    Some tweets received suggest this may have been a secret military uprising against the current Ukrainian president under the direction of formerly-jailed Prime Minister Timoshenko.

    According to other rumors, the black box for this crashed Malaysian Airlines flight was taken by Donetsk separatists. A spokesperson for the rebel group said this black box would be sent to the Interstate Aviation Committee headquartered in Moscow.

    The First Deputy Prime Minister of the self-proclaimed People’s Republic of Donetsk, Andrew Purgin, stated that the flight recorders of the crashed aircraft will be transferred to Moscow for examination.

    Sources say the Rebel group leadership hopes this would confirm the Ukrainian military actually shot down this aircraft. This was reported by the news agency Interfax-Ukraine.

    ETN statement: The information in this article is independently confirmed and based on the statement of one airline controller and other tweets received.

    Ukrainian millitary escorted B777 until 3 minutes before disappearing Ukraine air traffic ...
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  6. Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17

    Source tells award winning reporter Washington lying about responsibility for tragedy

    by Paul Joseph Watson | July 21, 2014




    Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.

    In the absence of any proper investigation, media rhetoric over the last few days has firmly pointed the finger of blame for the downing of the aircraft on Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels, but Parry’s source tells a different story.

    What I’ve been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms.

    The source said CIA analysts were still not ruling out the possibility that the troops were actually eastern Ukrainian rebels in similar uniforms but the initial assessment was that the troops were Ukrainian soldiers. There also was the suggestion that the soldiers involved were undisciplined and possibly drunk, since the imagery showed what looked like beer bottles scattered around the site, the source said.

    Although the establishment press has attempted to deride any questioning of the official narrative that Ukrainian rebels were responsible for the incident by invoking the tired “conspiracy theory” pejorative, Parry can hardly be dismissed as a crank given his key role in covering the Iran-Contra scandal for the Associated Press and Newsweek. Indeed, Parry’s investigative work on intelligence matters, for which he was awarded the George Polk Award, suggests that the information provided by his source is worthy of serious attention.

    U.S. and Ukrainian authorities continue to insist that Moscow-backed separatists were responsible for the tragedy, asserting that a BUK missile system was used to bring down the airliner. However, this was contradicted by Ukraine’s Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema, who stated, “The military told the president after the passenger plane had been shot down that the terrorists did not possess our Buk missile systems.”

    In a related development, audio experts who conducted a study into the authenticity of a recording released by Ukrainian authorities which implicated Russian-backed rebels as being responsible for the missile attack on MH17 concluded that the tape was fabricated.

    “The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said,” reports ITAR-TASS.

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  7. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Whistleblower: U.S. Satellite Images Show Ukrainian Troops Shooting Down MH17

    Source tells award winning reporter Washington lying about responsibility for tragedy

    by Paul Joseph Watson | July 21, 2014





    Award winning former Associated Press reporter Robert Parry has been told by an intelligence source that the United States is in possession of satellite imagery which shows that Ukrainian troops were responsible for the shoot down of Malaysian Airlines Flight 17.


    In the absence of any proper investigation, media rhetoric over the last few days has firmly pointed the finger of blame for the downing of the aircraft on Russian-backed Ukrainian rebels, but Parry’s source tells a different story.


    What I’ve been told by one source, who has provided accurate information on similar matters in the past, is that U.S. intelligence agencies do have detailed satellite images of the likely missile battery that launched the fateful missile, but the battery appears to have been under the control of Ukrainian government troops dressed in what look like Ukrainian uniforms.

    The source said CIA analysts were still not ruling out the possibility that the troops were actually eastern Ukrainian rebels in similar uniforms but the initial assessment was that the troops were Ukrainian soldiers. There also was the suggestion that the soldiers involved were undisciplined and possibly drunk, since the imagery showed what looked like beer bottles scattered around the site, the source said.



    Although the establishment press has attempted to deride any questioning of the official narrative that Ukrainian rebels were responsible for the incident by invoking the tired “conspiracy theory” pejorative, Parry can hardly be dismissed as a crank given his key role in covering the Iran-Contra scandal for the Associated Press and Newsweek. Indeed, Parry’s investigative work on intelligence matters, for which he was awarded the George Polk Award, suggests that the information provided by his source is worthy of serious attention.


    U.S. and Ukrainian authorities continue to insist that Moscow-backed separatists were responsible for the tragedy, asserting that a BUK missile system was used to bring down the airliner. However, this was contradicted by Ukraine’s Prosecutor General Vitaliy Yarema, who stated, “The military told the president after the passenger plane had been shot down that the terrorists did not possess our Buk missile systems.”


    In a related development, audio experts who conducted a study into the authenticity of a recording released by Ukrainian authorities which implicated Russian-backed rebels as being responsible for the missile attack on MH17 concluded that the tape was fabricated.


    “The tape’s second fragment consists of three pieces but was presented as a single audio recording. However, a spectral and time analysis has showed that the dialog was cut into pieces and then assembled. Short pauses in the tape are very indicative: the audio file has preserved time marks which show that the dialog was assembled from various episodes, the expert said,” reports ITAR-TASS.


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    Truly a sad story. Am I correct in thinking that they mistook the passenger airliner for a hostile?
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by Jiigzz View Post
    Truly a sad story. Am I correct in thinking that they mistook the passenger airliner for a hostile?
    Thats what Im thinking, but there is no way to know for sure. Im not sure. I hope thats the case that it was a mistake (still not an excuse,) but the spanish air traffic controller (posted 2 posts ago) of Ukraine said 2 Ukrainian jets rerouted the plane into that direction (they keep saying in the news why it was flying there in the first place) assuming what the spanish guy is saying is really true of course.

    Things are adding up but still needed to be taken with a grain of salt...I really do not believe Putin had anything to do with this, I dont see how they would gain anything from it. Ukraine has much benefit to gain.

    Mistake or not, all those victims will be exploited for political benefits and to promote a larger agenda.
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  9. I read that yesterday on presstv.ir, but the western media are quick to demonize Russia because they are making moves globally. I think this is happening because Russia was behind a new bank called BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) where it goes against the dollar. The world is done with the Rothschilds banking cartel where they cripple countries infrastructures and then enslave them with unpayable loans. People are waking up, even here in the most brainwashed country in the world. Also, this is a must read, the story in there about the underwear bomber Kurt Haskell and his wife were witnesses(Case for a bomb) I'm friends with them on Facebook, they just recently moved to Costa Rica because of how the gov't in this country let them down and wanted out. Good read.
    PressTV - White House 'leak': Ukraine did it

  10. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    I read that yesterday on presstv.ir, but the western media are quick to demonize Russia because they are making moves globally. I think this is happening because Russia was behind a new bank called BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa) where it goes against the dollar. The world is done with the Rothschilds banking cartel where they cripple countries infrastructures and then enslave them with unpayable loans. People are waking up, even here in the most brainwashed country in the world. Also, this is a must read, the story in there about the underwear bomber Kurt Haskell and his wife were witnesses(Case for a bomb) I'm friends with them on Facebook, they just recently moved to Costa Rica because of how the gov't in this country let them down and wanted out. Good read.
    PressTV - White House 'leak': Ukraine did it
    henry kissenger was a key player in negotiating with the arabs during the arab oil embargo to u.s in response to u.s involvement in yom kippur war in 1973, he made a lot of concessions, including letting opec set up a price setting mechanism-his major stipulation was that the u.s dollar be the accepted currency of trade....old henry knew what he was doing.
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  11. In Event of Emergency, Illegals to be Evacuated Before Citizens

    'For everyone's safety..'


    Image Credits: Public domain

    by Adan Salazar | July 28, 2014

    Should a hurricane or other life-threatening, catastrophic weather event impact South Texas, illegal aliens occupying various shelters will be first in line to get “to safer ground,” a National Weather Service coordinator says.

    At a meeting last week, emergency managers in the Rio Grande Valley region addressed the reality that, in addition to picking up the tab for putting the immigrants up, they have also accepted responsibility for their safety. That means ensuring illegal aliens have a safe evacuation from temporary and permanent shelters during an emergency.

    “You have extra sheltering areas and detention centers right here,” NWS Coordinator Barry Goldsmith told KRGV News. “And are they able to withstand the wind, are they able to withstand flood waters nearby to get humanitarian relief.”

    Goldsmith is worried that if a hurricane or other emergency hits, the evacuation of some 4,000 illegal aliens could be impeded by citizens also trying to reach safety.

    One way to ensure the illegals remain safe is to evacuate them before the general population receives evacuation orders, Valley city leaders have concluded.

    “The entire Valley detention areas will be evacuated first,” says Goldsmith. “In other words, before the public gets their mandatory evacuation, the plan is to get all these unaccompanied women and children out of the Valley and to safer ground.”

    The city and federal officials say by getting unaccompanied alien women and children out first, they are trying to avoid a Hurricane Rita-type situation, where more than 100 people died during the mass exodus of 2.5 million people from the Houston area.
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  12. So Russia is suspected of conspiring to shoot down a plane which lead to the death of 300 people.

    Russia gets heavy sanctions.

    Israel on the other hand massacres 1,300 people and injures 8K+ in the past 3 weeks.

    Israel gets no sanctions, instead rewarded (just reported by CNN) will have their ammunition re-supplied by the USA's military industrial complex so they can slaughter more.
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    In Event of Emergency, Illegals to be Evacuated Before Citizens

    'For everyone's safety..'


    Image Credits: Public domain

    by Adan Salazar | July 28, 2014

    Should a hurricane or other life-threatening, catastrophic weather event impact South Texas, illegal aliens occupying various shelters will be first in line to get “to safer ground,” a National Weather Service coordinator says.

    At a meeting last week, emergency managers in the Rio Grande Valley region addressed the reality that, in addition to picking up the tab for putting the immigrants up, they have also accepted responsibility for their safety. That means ensuring illegal aliens have a safe evacuation from temporary and permanent shelters during an emergency.

    “You have extra sheltering areas and detention centers right here,” NWS Coordinator Barry Goldsmith told KRGV News. “And are they able to withstand the wind, are they able to withstand flood waters nearby to get humanitarian relief.”

    Goldsmith is worried that if a hurricane or other emergency hits, the evacuation of some 4,000 illegal aliens could be impeded by citizens also trying to reach safety.

    One way to ensure the illegals remain safe is to evacuate them before the general population receives evacuation orders, Valley city leaders have concluded.

    “The entire Valley detention areas will be evacuated first,” says Goldsmith. “In other words, before the public gets their mandatory evacuation, the plan is to get all these unaccompanied women and children out of the Valley and to safer ground.”

    The city and federal officials say by getting unaccompanied alien women and children out first, they are trying to avoid a Hurricane Rita-type situation, where more than 100 people died during the mass exodus of 2.5 million people from the Houston area.
    by not closing our borders the government is giving an open invitation to 'come on down'....could it be that the government might actually be using illegals as a wedge between races to keep us hating on each other instead of uniting against the government. i remember many saying when obama was 1st elected that he would be a healer of friction between races, from what i have seen he has proven to be an instigator.

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  14. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So Russia is suspected of conspiring to shoot down a plane which lead to the death of 300 people. Russia gets heavy sanctions. Israel on the other hand massacres 1,300 people and injures 8K+ in the past 3 weeks. Israel gets no sanctions, instead rewarded (just reported by CNN) will have their ammunition re-supplied by the USA's military industrial complex so they can slaughter more.
    You just went way off with this post.

    The Russians conspired to shoot down a plane full of innocent people. Israel is defending itself against a terrorist group who uses human shields an hides weapon and troop caches in civilian facilities.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by tsugsr View Post
    You just went way off with this post.

    The Russians conspired to shoot down a plane full of innocent people. Israel is defending itself against a terrorist group who uses human shields an hides weapon and troop caches in civilian facilities.
    We dont know for sure if the Russians did it, it could have been the Ukraine and there is evidence that supports that as well. We cant know for sure but I doubt it was Russia.

    I want both Hamas and Israel to figure out how to live together just to be clear. I want both of them to have a place they can call home.

    That being said, the Palestine people also have a right to defend their homeland as well. Of course they hide behind people, its called guerrilla warfare. You dont fight a battle against the superb military going head on, then they all lose. Israel will not gain anything from all this death, they will only bread more hatred for the future generation of Palestine as they watch their families drown in a bloodbath inside the worlds largest open air prison.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    by not closing our borders the government is giving an open invitation to 'come on down'....could it be that the government might actually be using illegals as a wedge between races to keep us hating on each other instead of uniting against the government. i remember many saying when obama was 1st elected that he would be a healer of friction between races, from what i have seen he has proven to be an instigator.

    united we stand...divided we fall.
    They are going to be our future bureaucrats, totally used for political gain.

    Its funny how I keep hearing from Israel "what if Mexico has tunnels going into the USA, you guys would do the same thing." Well, Israel, its not that complicated, you simply walk over our borders, lol.
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  16. Nice job Obama, using our tax dollars to help Israel slaughter more Arabs!



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    Obama Signs Executive Order to Detain Americans With ‘Respiratory Illnesses’


    Amendment comes in wake of Ebola scare

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-...cable-diseases

    As the Ebola outbreak continues to cause concern, President Barack Obama has signed an amendment to an executive order that would allow him to order the apprehension and detention of Americans who merely show signs of “respiratory illness.”

    The executive order, titled Revised List of Quarantinable Communicable Diseases, amends executive order 13295, passed by George W. Bush in April 2003, which allows for the, “apprehension, detention, or conditional release of individuals to prevent the introduction, transmission, or spread of suspected communicable diseases.”

    The amendment signed by Obama replaces subsection (b) of the original Bush executive order which referred only to SARS. Obama’s amendment allows for the detention of Americans who display, “Severe acute respiratory syndromes, which are diseases that are associated with fever and signs and symptoms of pneumonia or other respiratory illness, are capable of being transmitted from person to person, and that either are causing, or have the potential to cause, a pandemic, or, upon infection, are highly likely to cause mortality or serious morbidity if not properly controlled.”
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  17. Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.
    i would rather pray for the victims of 911.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    Pray for Gaza, the atrocities by Israel are being ignored by our politicians and the UN, but the world is watching and this is a war crime.
    I dont think our politicians and UN are ignoring the atrocities. They are supporting it. They condemn the killing of civilians, but they currently are re-supplying the Israel's ammo. Isreal has heavy lobby in washington, just follow the money coming from AIPAC for example. The UN is full of globalist war mongering a-holes, they dont give a turd about people, they only care about more power and global governance.
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  20. You're right, they are supporting Genocide and the world is watching. AIPAC is the most powerful Lobbyist group in our country and creates our foreign policy which is why we're always at war with Arab countries and told its "Turrists" (Bush accent).

  21. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i would rather pray for the victims of 911.
    The truth will be out about that one day....

    Support these brave politicians

    http://jones.house.gov/press-release...ify-911-report

    http://lynch.house.gov/press-release...ification-9-11

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  22. Explosive Jackie O tapes ‘reveal how she believed Lyndon B Johnson killed JFK’

    Believed cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in assassination

    Image Credits: Cecil W. Stoughton, White House Press Office



    by Liz Thomas | Daily Mail | August 7, 2014



    Jackie Onassis believed that Lyndon B Johnson and a cabal of Texas tycoons were involved in the assassination of her husband John F Kennedy, ‘explosive’ recordings are set to reveal.

    The secret tapes will show that the former first lady felt that her husband’s successor was at the heart of the plot to murder him.
    She became convinced that the then vice president, along with businessmen in the South, had orchestrated the Dallas shooting, with gunman Lee Harvey Oswald – long claimed to have been a lone assassin – merely part of a much larger conspiracy.

    Texas-born Mr Johnson, who served as the state’s governor and senator, completed Mr Kennedy’s term and went on to be elected president in his own right.
    The tapes were recorded with leading historian Arthur Schlesinger Jnr within months of the assassination on November 22, 1963, and had been sealed in a vault at the Kennedy Library in Boston.

    The then Mrs Kennedy, who went on to marry Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis, had ordered that they should not be released until 50 years after her death, with some reports suggesting she feared that her revelations might make her family targets for revenge.

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  23. The case against LBJ has always been a strong one. LBJ was a serial murderer and amoral psychopath. Read Roger Stones, "The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ"

  24. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    The case against LBJ has always been a strong one. LBJ was a serial murderer and amoral psychopath. Read Roger Stones, "The Man Who Killed Kennedy: The Case Against LBJ"
    I dont think he cared about minorities either except for their vote.
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  25. Government Likely Hiding Truth in Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Crash

    By Ron Paul

    August 7, 2014 – The U.S. government has grown strangely quite on the accusation that it was Russia or her allies that brought down the Malaysian airliner with a buck anti-aircraft missile.

    The little that we have heard from U.S. intelligence is that it has no evidence that Russia was involved. Yet the war propaganda were successful in convincing the American public that it was all Russia’s fault. It’s hard to believe that the U.S., with all of its spy satellites available for monitoring everything in Ukraine that precise proof of who did what and when is not available.

    When evidence contradicts our government’s accusations, the evidence is never revealed to the public—for national security reasons, of course. Some independent sources claim that the crash site revealed evidence that bullet holes may have come from a fighter jet. If true, it would implicate Western Ukraine.

    Questions do remain regarding the serious international incident. Too bad we can’t count on our government to just tell us the truth and show us the evidence. I’m convinced that it knows a lot more than it’s telling us.

    Source: Government Likely Hiding Truth in Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 Crash | Voices of Liberty, Powered by Ron Paul
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    Obama’s ISIS Bombing Hoax Exposed

    Remember which countries are bankrolling the deadly terror group



    by Infowars.com | August 9, 2014

    President Barack Obama’s authorization of air strikes on ISIS targets in Iraq serves as an opportunity to remind ourselves which countries are bankrolling the deadly terror group.

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  26. Remember the early forms of ISIS and how the U.S. helped them get established in Syria by funding them and sending them weapons? This one of Washington's oldest formulas:
    1. Help bloodthirsty madmen rise to power
    2. Demonize them
    3. Invade
    Problem, Reaction, Solution

    http://scgnews.com/the-syrian-war-wh...not-being-told

  27. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So Russia is suspected of conspiring to shoot down a plane which lead to the death of 300 people. Russia gets heavy sanctions. Israel on the other hand massacres 1,300 people and injures 8K+ in the past 3 weeks. Israel gets no sanctions, instead rewarded (just reported by CNN) will have their ammunition re-supplied by the USA's military industrial complex so they can slaughter more.
    A tad biased? I assume that there is some connection here I don't see? I don't recall Russia fighting for its existence against a terrorist organization. Hmmmm

  28. One mans terrorist organization is anothers freedom fighter. Palestine has been under lockdown for 60 years and their land keeps shrinking to Israel. It is known that since post WWII, Israel wants no Palestinians to survive. Imagine you lived in a country where your oppressors governed your water and electricity, controlled your borders, placed heavy embargoes and controlled all your trade? and constantly being called terrorists this comes after Palestine welcomed Jews into their homeland during their Exodus from Germany and Russia during WWII. You have to understand their anger and where it comes from. They have been the victims of many Israeli false flags. Listen to this video of an ex-Israeli soldiers testimony about how they kill Palestinians and use them as guinea pigs for weapons. It comes as no surprise how we became the ME in our own country post 9/11...they brought that crap here via homeland security, TSA, Patriot act, NDAA, our police being more brutal. Actually a lot of police are trained by the IDF, so these police no longer protect and serve...they treat us as enemy combatants.

    It picks up at 33:10 and tells of a false flag.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ava1uEzxYnM

  29. Quote Originally Posted by dondon View Post
    One mans terrorist organization is anothers freedom fighter. Palestine has been under lockdown for 60 years and their land keeps shrinking to Israel. It is known that since post WWII, Israel wants no Palestinians to survive. Imagine you lived in a country where your oppressors governed your water and electricity, controlled your borders, placed heavy embargoes and controlled all your trade? and constantly being called terrorists this comes after Palestine welcomed Jews into their homeland during their Exodus from Germany and Russia during WWII. You have to understand their anger and where it comes from. They have been the victims of many Israeli false flags. Listen to this video of an ex-Israeli soldiers testimony about how they kill Palestinians and use them as guinea pigs for weapons. It comes as no surprise how we became the ME in our own country post 9/11...they brought that crap here via homeland security, TSA, Patriot act, NDAA, our police being more brutal. Actually a lot of police are trained by the IDF, so these police no longer protect and serve...they treat us as enemy combatants. It picks up at 33:10 and tells of a false flag. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ava1uEzxYnM
    You seemed viable until you said welcomed into their homeland. That couldn't be further from the truth.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    You seemed viable until you said welcomed into their homeland. That couldn't be further from the truth.
    you got that right!!! look at 1936-39 arab revolt in palestine and 1948 palistine war. in the 1948 war israel took over more land than they were alloted, but also during that war 700,000 palistinians fled or were driven from their native land by their own advancing armies who promised them they could return once the jews were erradicated---to me erradicated means killed or forced to leave.

    to me if i were a jew i would take 700,000 arabs trying to erradicate me as a serious threat!!! after all of the violence that has taken place in that area for the palistinians to try and portray themselves as innocent victims is a joke.
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