Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
- 05-13-2011, 04:28 PM
- 05-13-2011, 04:28 PM
05-13-2011, 04:33 PM
How about asking questions about the witnesses and evidence provided instead of closing yourself off prior to even reading or analyzing anything. Im open to discussing anything you would like, but knocking people over for exposing government corruption is a part of my democracy that I put into practice.
The constitution is my guide, not the government.
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all.
God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion. The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions, it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty.... And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is its natural manure.
05-13-2011, 06:04 PM
05-13-2011, 08:20 PM
If I want to discuss Cars and racing I go to car sites, if I want to discuss Bodybuilding and go a little off topic i go here. If I am going to start a discussion and go so far as to post videos and cite stories and reports on a site that has nothing to do with the main purpose of the site I would at least have the common courtesy to post it in the appropriate forum. But I guess maybe the mod is a believer i dont know, but it dont make a lot of sense to me
I'm sure once again I will be called narrow minded or closed off because i dont want to discuss it but like i said before this stuff is rediculous.
Here I can do this too:
05-13-2011, 08:27 PM
05-13-2011, 08:43 PM
Accusing the U.S. Government of commiting a conspiracy that slaughtered over 3,000 inocent US citizens in front of the whole world to see and then ensure they have all their T's crossed and I's dotted it a tall fricken order if you ask me! lol That is hardly within reason!
Calling somebody a witness does not make them a witness!
Calling somebody an expert does not make them an expert!
Calling somebody credible does not make them credible!
05-13-2011, 08:53 PM
05-13-2011, 09:10 PM
I supplied you with government unclassified "Operation Northwood" documents. You did not read them. The government wanted to do this in the 60's and blow up Chicago and other cities and blame it on Fidel Castro. The plan was on Kennedy's desk but he refused, but he is dead now and no-one can speak for him. There is a reason he is dead. These unclassified documents are proof that there is no limit to how low the government will go.
I will supply you again here.....As you clearly can read, the government WANTED TO SABOTAGE OUR OWN MILITARY BASE AND KILL OUR OWN TROOPS TO GET US INTO WAR!!! They also wanted to create back then would I would call a "Cuba version of Alqueda to terrorize Americans." This was the governments plans...they wanted to do this.
Operation Northwoods - Proposals to have the CIA attack terrorism in US cities and elsewhere.
Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If you have much trouble about conspiracies, why dont you listen to what Kennedy was trying to warn America about...
President John F Kennedy Secret Society Speech
Also, the government unclassified the Gulf on Tonkin incident, 60,000 Americans dead based on a false flag attack.
I will supply you again here....
Also the Gulf on Tonkin incident that cost the lives of 60,000 Americans of my previous generation. This was a false staged attack on the USA, and we started a war over that.
Gulf of Tonkin incident - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
They lied about the Iraq War and WMD's....how many thousands of troops perished due to yet another lie.
If you want me to pull more lies I can do it....
If you want expert credentials I can supply them for you. As a matter of fact I have the credentials over over 1,500 Architects and Engineers, and Military personal speaking out about 9/11.
Do you want to attend a Architects and Engineers meeting?
By the way, Where did all the rubble go? 9/12/2001
Last edited by ax1; 05-13-2011 at 09:41 PM.
05-13-2011, 09:53 PM
GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!
05-13-2011, 10:00 PM
I hate government and I work for them! But "YOU" come on man! Unplug, take a step back and really think of what your charging!
I will look for it, but a few years ago a buddy of mine sent me a vid of a study group where a guy invited 20 truthers to discuss 9-11 and he flipped the script and got face to face with these people (non confrontational) and when they did not have videos to rely on and could only rely on their own argument it was just sad! One guy did it, and they're were times where i actually felt bad for the truthers becasue they looked and sounded so silly when they couldn't answer simple questions. Its just silly to me thats all.
YES I MISPELLED WORDS, SO WHAT?
05-13-2011, 10:01 PM
05-13-2011, 10:07 PM
05-13-2011, 10:13 PM
05-13-2011, 10:16 PM
all the stuff you told me I dont think that was that bad, just playing
edit: BigT is right, maybe I am human, lol
I just proved in my previous post the government has no limits to how low they will go, I just proved they will attack their own military bases for justification of war and you think I'm not a thinker?
You can meet the Architects and Engineers in person if you would like. I sent you an event page and if anything is local you can attend and meet the experts in person. I dunno what else to tell you in regards to that, its your choice.
How about your friend send some police, firemen, engineers, physicists and military personal that belong to 9/11 truth movement for a new study group instead of picking of normal citizens questioning the government about the events? It sounds like he used intimidation tactics that he is trained in and that you would use on criminals during interrogation ..and that he is close minded person and his only purpose was to try to prove how powerful he was. These "study groups" are not study groups. Discussions should allow anybody to provide and discuss evidence on what happened on a mature level, its not a "face to face lets see who's tougher" wins. That doesn't prove anything.
Last edited by ax1; 05-13-2011 at 10:34 PM.
05-13-2011, 10:18 PM
05-13-2011, 10:30 PM
1st stage denile
2nd stage violent opposition
3rd stage widespread acceptance as common knowledge
What stage do you the reader belong?
Science will triumph broscience
Free on youtube
In Plane Sight - Sept 11 - 911 Conspiracy 1 of 6
05-13-2011, 10:41 PM
05-13-2011, 10:57 PM
My daughter: Dad I got an A on my history test
Me: No way, your not that smart! C+ maybe but no A!
Me: WHAT? AN "A" WTF? I EXPECT A+ IN THIS HOUSE! YOU LITTLE DUMB BASTARD! YOU TAKE AFTE YOUR MOM!!!!
Me: Congrats on the A! I love you babe, sorry about the rant.
05-14-2011, 12:05 AM
05-14-2011, 12:15 AM
His opinion, like yours, is not relevant to what really happened. Whatever happened, happened. No opinion can affect that. The point is to investigate the facts and not to make face to face arguments about who's right and who isn't - this isn't high school debate class and winning the argument won't bring anybody closer to what really happened.
05-14-2011, 04:36 PM
I still dont understand how anyone could give the US Government so much credit in pulling off such an act!
Let's just say for argument sake that the federal center for records and history, the government, CIA,NTSB,FAA,FBI,AIR FORCE,airlines, the pentagon etc etc etc allowed for 50 independant thinkers/incestigators to scour the records of the events (I mean everything!) for over a year and the results were found that they could not find ANY evidence that supports an actuall 911 conspiracy and everything showed that the events that took place actually took place.
Then what? what would you think?
05-14-2011, 04:53 PM
05-14-2011, 05:02 PM
The government will take out their own people, have you heard of Pat Tillman?
05-14-2011, 05:07 PM
05-14-2011, 05:09 PM
05-14-2011, 05:10 PM
05-14-2011, 05:11 PM
05-14-2011, 05:12 PM
05-14-2011, 05:29 PM
Here is Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.
I know its a video and you discredit every video in existence, but its brother, HIS BROTHER WITH THEIR MOTHER BY HIS SIDE!!!
Now if there is a question you should ask, it would be, Why did our government kill Pat Tillman? Was it perhaps that he was whistle-blowing to his family about the truth of the Afghanistan War? And that he was telling him family that he was prepared to go back home and tell ALL the Americans the truth!?
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