Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
- 05-15-2011, 09:17 AM
If Osama Bin Laden was the head guy, and he was un-armed, wouldnt the government take him alive and interrogate him? If "torture worked so well" that some claim led to his capture, shouldnt we be torturing Osama Bin Laden and getting information out of him about potential coming terrorists and terrorists attacks? Why would they "kill" they #1 witness, the leader, the most knowledgeable terrorist, the one directing the traffic and lose out of all the information that we would have gotten if we water boarded that so many claim to be so effective?
You can now say that if there is another terrorist attack, the government needs to take full accountability for it because we killed the guy who would have (by forceful interrogation) supplied us with the information to stop it and also catch those involved in the plot before it comes to fruition. If 500,000 die in the next terrorist attack the US government should be held responsible for all their deaths due to their irresponsibility of killing the #1 source of information.
Ill add...We killed him...yeah we went to war in 2 countries, invaded several others because of him. Now that he is "gone" why arent they bringing the troops home, we got what we wanted didnt we? Trillions of dollars, 5,000 troops dead, tens of thousands wounded because of 1 man...mission accomplished! Now where is the withdrawal? We marched right, its now as simple as marching right out!
- 05-15-2011, 10:03 AM
The best or I should say the most efficient way to control public opinion is by the use of fear.
If OBL had been found to be held up in a compound. It would be far more advantageous to take him prisoner. Make the al qaeda lieutenants think that he had told the US government much.
Or at lest make them think that he possibley talked.
Hold OBL and make them sweet it out for months if not years. Show photos of OBL in shackles surrounded by armed guards and dogs.
But no.... lets go in and destroy the single best source of intell we could ever dream of getting our hands on in the WAR AGAINST TERROR !!! Yes !!! lets just go in and kill him and not worry about the wealth of information we could very easily extract from him.
The problem is, the government or what ever you want to label the ones running things is ...is they think the common man is just gullible and naive. and, as we have seen by many posts in this thread.. for many people here, it appears to be the case..
- 05-15-2011, 02:13 PM
also don't forget that the vietnam war was also started on a false pretense. there is no limit to what the government is capable of it it suits the needs of the real powers in this country-corporate america!!!
05-16-2011, 03:03 PM
CBS Demonizes Constitutionalists
May 16, 2011
In a 60 Minutes hit piece, constitutionalists who believe the federal government has grabbed too much power and has become tyrannical are lumped in with Jerry Kane and his 16-year-old son Joseph. Kane and his son, who claimed to be aligned with the sovereign citizen movement, gunned down two Arkansas cops during a traffic stop and were killed by police 90 minutes later.
The CBS video attempts to connect constitutionalists and members of the sovereign citizen movement to Terry Nichols, the Oklahoma City bombing, and supposedly racist militias. It uniformly portrays those who argue the government has violated its constitutional mandate as violent, insane, and possibly racist. It insinuates that if you have a problem with income taxes or are an advocate of states rights under the Tenth Amendment, you are an extremist and domestic terrorist.
Sovereign Citizen Movement - CBS Hit Piece
05-16-2011, 06:58 PM
Time to beef this thread up and expose the people in the White House with their own writings and works.
Important information on Obama's white house science adviser John P. Holdren and his agenda for a "planetary regime." How Obama appoints an adviser to the white house advisory team who is in line with a pro-genocide movement and Hitler's views is a question we all need to ask.
John Holdren-advisor to President Barack Obama for Science and Technology, Director of the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy, and Co-Chair of the President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology
John Holdren - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Quote from John P. Holdren's book "Ecoscience"
"To provide a high quality of life for all there must be fewer people." - Ecoscience John P. Holdren
Ill just note, his ideal population would be 1 Billion.
In regards to the book:
"This is a cookbook for the extermination of humanity!" - Webster Tarpley
Book link to Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment [Paperback]:
Amazon.com: Ecoscience: Population, Resources, Environment (9780716700296): Paul R. Ehrlich, John P. Holdren, Anne H. Ehrlich: Books
White House Science Adviser's Agenda:
Licenses for birth
Chemicals in water and food supply to control population
Infanticide (I had to look that up, wow Infanticide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
NWO and a single 1 world government
quote for posted video below:
"This is the trailer for the upcoming prisonplanet.tv exclusive interview with Dr. Webster Tarpley. In this interview, Dr. Tarpley reviews the writings of John P. Holdren, the current Whitehouse science advisor. This interview conclusively exposes scientific elite's true agenda, world-wide genocide and the formation of a global government to rule."
Webster Tarpley & Elite's Plan for Global Extermination Trailer
Last edited by ax1; 05-16-2011 at 08:40 PM.
05-17-2011, 11:59 PM
One more reason to stay I'm happy I didn't vote for him.
Infanticide... didn't look it up, just based on word break down I dont think I need to.
1 world government? Someone took the works of Aldous Huxley way too far.
05-18-2011, 02:24 AM
05-18-2011, 10:40 AM
here is more info on it
In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science
policy in the United States under POTUS Obama, topics include:
+ Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or
+ The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally
put into the nation's drinking water or in food;
+ Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them
against their will and given away to other couples to raise;
+ People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be
required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words,
be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.
+ A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy
and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed
international police force.
05-18-2011, 10:53 AM
Check this out...has quotes with page #'s on it with page scans from the book
"John Holdren, Obama's Science Czar, says: Forced abortions and mass sterilization needed to save the planet
Book he authored in 1977 advocates for extreme totalitarian measures to control the population"
05-18-2011, 11:33 AM
05-18-2011, 12:13 PM
If People have all the babies they like. Than they loose the Right to bitch when they can't provide for them.
If than statement.
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/173797-one-small-step.html Getting my ass beat and logging it.
05-18-2011, 02:43 PM
The government is promoting welfare...they create a society of government dependence and non-thinkers (department of education is designed this way in regards to non-thinkers) Welfare doesnt have to be law. I dont believe in socialism and communism... in order to give someone something you have to take it from everybody else. Thats not right. That should be all voluntary.
At the end of the day I believe everybody has a right to their own liberties and freedom....government manipulating in peoples lives and business always leads to the suffering of people as a whole. As we can already see we are all suffering as a whole by a criminal government stealing our money and giving it to the poor by force. Actually I think government steals more money for themselves than they do for the poor.
I do not see why you would specifically agree to sterilization practices which would effect you too (food and public water supply). In addition side effects and illnesses we all may be prone to from the additive chemicals. Maybe you didnt agree with everything posted?
The elite are only out to protect their own oligarchy...everybody else to them is just a serf, including me and you (unless your one of them and I dunno about it, lol). At the end of the day even if population was down to 500 million the way the system functions with current laws there still be a big if not bigger % of poor people on welfare.
05-18-2011, 02:54 PM
05-18-2011, 03:01 PM
They have been doing forced abortions and sterilizations for many years and the result now is a select few on top....about 10% being middle class and the rest dirt poor and dependent on government aid.
I just dont see how it can possible end welfare...what ends welfare is simply cutting the program off.
05-18-2011, 03:24 PM
This is the future our kids face...what if that happened to my daughter (well I have no kids, but in case I have one), you have to understand the psychological catastrophe this can have on women...and if this happened to one of your kids you might be a little pissed seeing them go through such a damaging struggle. What if your old and you want to see your kids have your grandchildren and they cant because of the water supply making them all sterile? Or you get old and have cancer which was caused by these chemicals?
05-18-2011, 03:27 PM
In the end though, the population growth is the most in the least intelligent and responsible among us. The birth rate for women on welfare is 3x that of women not, and the birthrate for women with less than a high school diploma is 4x that of women with a masters degree or higher. Forced abortions + steriility would only improve the human race as far as it exists in the US currently.
05-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Not trying to get personal please dont get upset, thats not my intent and I understand some of these concerns your bringing up.
Im trying to portray that this can affect you directly with your own current family besides that these chemicals they use can give you cancer, Alzheimer disease and other illnesses.
05-18-2011, 03:38 PM
05-18-2011, 03:46 PM
In regards to China...one of their favorites are the Tibetans as they are slowly trying to wipe out their race. Similarities with the way the Nazi's have done with the Jews.
Just a fact, the most infertile places on the planet are Hong Kong and Taiwan, far from any major impoverished areas in China. What they are using in the public water supply or other means I have to research is effecting everybody.
05-18-2011, 04:11 PM
Are there any minorities (What is considered a "minor" in the USA) on the board?
Im just wondering if this is a concern for you, or find it offensive in any way. Remember, this comes from Obama's science advisors book "Ecoscience".
Page 786: Single mothers should have their babies taken away by the government; or they could be forced to have abortions
“One way to carry out this disapproval might be to insist that all illegitimate babies be put up for adoption—especially those born to minors, who generally are not capable of caring properly for a child alone."
05-18-2011, 04:13 PM
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05-18-2011, 04:28 PM
In a 1934 letter, Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, wrote to her financial sponsor, Clarence Gamble (the Proctor & Gamble heir) :
“We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members.”
BlackGenocide.org | The Negro Project
Abortion and Black Genocide (Barack Obama and the Negro Project)
05-18-2011, 05:34 PM
it is our own fault, how did we ever turn over this kind of power to the top 1%. the united states frowns on military intervention of protesters in arab states, but what do you think they would do if the american people finally got fed up with all of this crap?
05-18-2011, 05:39 PM
05-18-2011, 05:46 PM
A guy who works at one told me..."We are preparing for a wave of mass chaos" - Anonymous (but Ill reveal he is a former NY State Trooper 20+ years)
As to why? Thats because they are smarter than us. They have master psychology working behind the scenes and when you run most aspects of media and education (Department of Education) you get what we have now and getting into.
05-18-2011, 05:48 PM
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05-18-2011, 05:58 PM
If you've never seen it, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. Although its mostly about intelligent design, there are a couple parts on eugenics. The most interesting quote is from Darwin, "Hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed". Although Darwin goes on to talk about sympathy being why we allow this in humans, frankly all I see is us leading down a spiral of a devolving human race
I really don't mind the scenario as presented in the movie Gattaca, its possibly the only thing that can save our species at this point
05-18-2011, 06:11 PM
Im not a Darwin guy (Ill add Im a atheist against Darwin, usually religious people hate him, lol) Ill have to get into that another time falling behind my work here, lol
That movie looks very interesting, I will definitely watch it. Ill have to look into Ben Stein's background and where his money comes from. Its free on youtube if anybody reading this want to know...
Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Super Trailer)
Edit: Ill have to watch Gattaca as well.
05-18-2011, 06:21 PM
05-18-2011, 06:39 PM
Even just 30 or 40 years ago, guess what? that child would have been stillborn, or died within minutes to hours of being born. Now they have ways to diagnose it in the womb. It requires immediate surgery, plus potentially years worth of follow up surgeries. One of my wife's friends had a child with that. Spent her first year in the hospital in intensive care the whole time, and now at I think 4 years old hasn't gone more than 2 months without at least one major bad event of some sort that required a hospital visit, as well as having 5 or more doctors visits a month regularly. Her first year in the hospital was a mult-million dollar bill.
Ok sure, it doesn't raise the cost of your healthCARE but it does raise the cost of your healthINSURANCE as the insurance companies spread the cost over all the users. This is one of the bits of verbal sleight of hand that Obama used in getting obamacare passed, somehow trying to tie together the costs of insurance + care, which isn't truly accurate
05-18-2011, 06:57 PM
05-18-2011, 07:06 PM
Insurance companies just pulled off a major ponzi scheme with Obama on the American people forcing them to buy their product.
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