Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
- 05-13-2011, 10:00 PM
I hate government and I work for them! But "YOU" come on man! Unplug, take a step back and really think of what your charging!
I will look for it, but a few years ago a buddy of mine sent me a vid of a study group where a guy invited 20 truthers to discuss 9-11 and he flipped the script and got face to face with these people (non confrontational) and when they did not have videos to rely on and could only rely on their own argument it was just sad! One guy did it, and they're were times where i actually felt bad for the truthers becasue they looked and sounded so silly when they couldn't answer simple questions. Its just silly to me thats all.
YES I MISPELLED WORDS, SO WHAT?
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all the stuff you told me I dont think that was that bad, just playing
edit: BigT is right, maybe I am human, lol
I just proved in my previous post the government has no limits to how low they will go, I just proved they will attack their own military bases for justification of war and you think I'm not a thinker?
You can meet the Architects and Engineers in person if you would like. I sent you an event page and if anything is local you can attend and meet the experts in person. I dunno what else to tell you in regards to that, its your choice.
How about your friend send some police, firemen, engineers, physicists and military personal that belong to 9/11 truth movement for a new study group instead of picking of normal citizens questioning the government about the events? It sounds like he used intimidation tactics that he is trained in and that you would use on criminals during interrogation ..and that he is close minded person and his only purpose was to try to prove how powerful he was. These "study groups" are not study groups. Discussions should allow anybody to provide and discuss evidence on what happened on a mature level, its not a "face to face lets see who's tougher" wins. That doesn't prove anything.
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05-13-2011, 10:57 PM
My daughter: Dad I got an A on my history test
Me: No way, your not that smart! C+ maybe but no A!
Me: WHAT? AN "A" WTF? I EXPECT A+ IN THIS HOUSE! YOU LITTLE DUMB BASTARD! YOU TAKE AFTE YOUR MOM!!!!
Me: Congrats on the A! I love you babe, sorry about the rant.
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05-14-2011, 12:15 AM
His opinion, like yours, is not relevant to what really happened. Whatever happened, happened. No opinion can affect that. The point is to investigate the facts and not to make face to face arguments about who's right and who isn't - this isn't high school debate class and winning the argument won't bring anybody closer to what really happened.
05-14-2011, 04:36 PM
I still dont understand how anyone could give the US Government so much credit in pulling off such an act!
Let's just say for argument sake that the federal center for records and history, the government, CIA,NTSB,FAA,FBI,AIR FORCE,airlines, the pentagon etc etc etc allowed for 50 independant thinkers/incestigators to scour the records of the events (I mean everything!) for over a year and the results were found that they could not find ANY evidence that supports an actuall 911 conspiracy and everything showed that the events that took place actually took place.
Then what? what would you think?
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05-14-2011, 05:02 PM
The government will take out their own people, have you heard of Pat Tillman?
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05-14-2011, 05:29 PM
Here is Kevin Tillman, Pat Tillman's brother.
I know its a video and you discredit every video in existence, but its brother, HIS BROTHER WITH THEIR MOTHER BY HIS SIDE!!!
Now if there is a question you should ask, it would be, Why did our government kill Pat Tillman? Was it perhaps that he was whistle-blowing to his family about the truth of the Afghanistan War? And that he was telling him family that he was prepared to go back home and tell ALL the Americans the truth!?
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How about Katrina? We did that too right? The ole Bush hurrican machine right? lol. Cmon I know you have something about Katrina!
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05-14-2011, 11:37 PM
You are also not looking that all the data of the missing 2.3 million happen to be in the room the Pentagon was hit and Ill re-ad that **** Cheney gave the stand-down order as the plane was reaching Washington.
Maybe it had to do with the Military helping the locals grow opium plants, I can supply you with the Military admitting it on Fox news, but since its a video according to you "its fake"
The fact is Pat Tillman wanted to tell the American people what the USA was doing over in Afghanistan, he was going to be a first hand front of the lines whistle-blower, ask his family they will show you the letters he wrote prior to his passing.
Ill post the video for other people following the thread though, I please ask you to not watch it since a actual Military member admits it on a video "its fake"
So here we are, the military grows the opium, but when they catch you with it you get arrested.
Wayne Madsen Reports CIA Control of Afghanistan's Opium Fields
A: This is just the main-lining of the double think of the mind control, because they can't hide it anymore. That Ok, we're growing it, but we're doing it to fight AL-Qeida.
W: Oh Absolutely, and it's not just ... Now we have reports that from the United Nations that it's not just heroin and opium coming out of Afghanistan, but it's cannabis. So they have actually found a new cash crop to deal in.
A: You heard it! The troops help grow it. So, our men and women are now farmers for the CIA.
W: That's right, and the biggest problem is where is this heroin going to. It's getting to across the border into Kazekstan, to the north and winding up on the old silk route, the Silk Road. It's going east into China and west into Europe. Of course the Russian government, the Chinese government are well aware of the fact that this stuff is coming out of Afghanistan. Who is involved in this illicit trade, you got Karzai, Hamid Karzai's brother is one of the biggest drug war lords in Afghanistan.
A: Let me stop you again. New York Times just admits the whole thing. Right here, "U.S. turns blind eye to Opium in Afghan trade". They're not turning blind eye, They're right there getting the goodies, go ahead.
W: Right. The biggest fear of China is that they are looking at this as another Opium War. We already have report coming out of the Udan province in China that young men are getting hooked on this stuff. They know where it is coming out of. They are not good and frankly they are not happy about it. The history of the Opium Wars with the British and China. They understand that that's what helped defeat the Chinese before and they are worried that the west has more designs now.
A: That's important. This is a British model. Skull and bones that set up our CIA on record was a British model to use a drug war to take over the U.S., because they had already done it one hundred years before in China with the Opium war. That's how they corrupted the police, that's how they took over the society.
W: We also know that the route to the west, to Europe, goes through Turkey. What we are seeing now with the present Turkish government uncovering this deep state that has existed in Turkey for a number of years. That, part and parcel of that deep state, it's called the ?argetacon? network is the trafficking in opium. The opium is coming via land from Afghanistan.
W: So, from Turkey where does it go? It goes through the Balkans where our friends with the Kosovo Liberation Army has dealt with them for years. You know, that's the Madeline Albright's good friend. She set up the KLA. Once it hits Kosovo, boom, France, Germany, Scandinavia, the Netherlands, Italy, that's where the money is made on the street.
[watch the rest of the video]
A: We were just talking about how the troops are on FOX News saying they help the Afghans grow the opium. It's come out the contractors are shipping the heroine out. If they can get on the news and admit they are growing the opium, but to say it is to fight Al-Qeida, they can take your pension funds, everything else and they are going to. They are announcing it.
05-14-2011, 11:57 PM
Operation Northwoods, Project Mongoose, Tuskeegee Experiement, Iran-Contra Affair and the rise of Freeway Ricky Ross, propoganda to legislate marijuana, Karzai's bro on CIA payroll, 30,000 dead from FDA approved Vioxx and Celebrex after Dr. admitted to faking studies, Port-Saint-Espirit CIA LSD bread experiment, literally no opium products from Afghanistan until we invaded now they supply 90% of heroin--confirmed by Rodney Stich, CIA control of the Golden Triangle, invasion of Iraq, shady OBL operation, cover-up of Pat Tillman's death, Wikileaks on death of honeybees, oil invasion in Iraq, etc.-----I'm not talking about little grey men ruling the world, I'm not even talking about 9/11 being government-conspired-- these are legitimate, and most have been confirmed and/or admitted by our government or former officials. Hell, Oliver North got off scot-free from Iran-Contra for cooperating and even got a nice little bit on Fox. To say that the government isn't capable of causing the death of 3,000 people or faking the death of a terrorist to generate support for a failing war, economy, and president, is irresponsible.
It is NOT unpatriotic to question our govermment and demand accountability. In fact, that is the exact opposite of the truth. The more critical the population, the more the government has to remain honest or fear public backlash. However, we gave all of that up in fear and OBL got exactly what he wanted: worldwide hatred of America, especially among Muslims, our economy to fall recklessly, the potrayal of Americans as barbaric and unjust bullies, the inciting of war on nations when the attacks came from a few. Do I think OBL was involved in 9/11, yeah I sure do. However, his death, whether it came now, or 10 years ago, is completely irrelevant. His legacy was the mess we made and the liberty we forfeited. "People should not fear their government, a governemnt should fear its people." - Alan Moore
These same people that dismiss all government criticism as a conspiracy theory, are the same ones that pledge allegiance to and allow corporations to bankrupt this country and support their own citizens and friends being killed for empire-building, unjust exploitation of foreign resources, and domestic rape by pharmaceutical companies and the rich.
Don't fear progress, evolution, or change. Be the catalyst. That's TRULY what our forefathers did. They weren't sitting on their asses believing everything they were told and letting their "government" control them.
05-15-2011, 12:02 AM
Also, how many people have died as a result of the Drug War, the War on Terror, unregulated medicine that tooks months to come off the shelves after people died as a result of taking it? How many of our citizens died in frivilous wars such as Vietnam? How many people of Lao are forced to live in the wilderness because our government hired them to fight communism in Laos and now they can't show their faces in light of the communist Lao government? How many citizens have died in Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan? How much bull**** propoganda was thrown at us about Libya, but they forgot to tell us Libya has the 9th largest oil reserves in the world? What ever happened to those "savage" natives that lived here when we arrived? Yeah, 3,000 sure seems like a small number.
05-15-2011, 12:36 AM
First. I have to actually support boat on something.
He was arguing pretty intelligently... A spelling comment is a low blow.
And pretty lame to bring up.
Secondly Boat... you are 100% right... "truthers" if that's what we want to call people who like to seek the truth, do a fantastic job of making an ass out of themselves. There are actual reasons that this happens, but I don't have the brain power to type an essay about the stereotypical person most likely to be influenced by information contradictory to popular opinion. The crazy "truthers" you are referring to are just an embarrassment to themselves NOT to the cause they are trying to represent as pitifully as they may be representing it.
I say this only because if I wasn't exposed to the intelligent side of people really seeking the truth and only the morons echoing ideas and "conspiracy theory's", I would still be on your side giving the cold shoulder to any ideas that shake the foundation of what we are taught to believe.
Also, I'm impressed by so many people on this thread sanding up for what they believe in and discussing things that aren't always easy to chew on. Realize the vast majority of people are much too pathetic and empathetic to even understand either side of this argument.
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05-15-2011, 06:15 AM
As for the original topic: wanna know my theory? Osama isn't dead - he's in our custody being "intensively questioned" like all the other prisoners we've taken. A bunch of government croanies are having their way with the bastard trying to get information and a spiteful nut off until he dies from exasperation.
05-15-2011, 08:46 AM
I am amazed at the fake patriotism that runs through some people. At the end of the day our government has proved time and again to be capable of things that we cannot fathom, and then lie about it. At the end of the day we will never know the full extent to their involvement in certain affairs, however, with the past as our guides, we cannot discount anything.
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