Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Actually, I have CIA Officials here admitting to faking a Bin Laden video and planning out other extensive other fake projects including a fake hidden camera footage of Saddam Hussein and a teenage boy having sex. in this Washington Post article.

    http://www.theworld.org/2010/05/fake-saddam-video-plot/
    Uhm ... Sorry - but you don't. You're doing exactly what you "Troofers" always do when your idiotic conspiracy theories are challenged - you're changing the subject.

    The faked tapes you're talking about are "Psyops" tactics - which are a part of war. The tapes i'm talking about are the tapes that UBL made to inspire his followers and give them directions worldwide.

    The CIA didn't make those there, Mr. Rocket Scientist. In fact - many in the US Government thought UBL was dead after the main military thrust into Afghanistan. Why would they allow that thought to get out into the open only to "fake" tapes to ressurect the guy?

    I know you'll have an INCREDIBLE answer to that because TROOFERS always do!


  2. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    In regards to this statement, how do you feel about when the US General of all American Intelligence (Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army) says 9/11 is a fraud?
    Anyone who believes the US government "pulled off" 9-11 is a fraud.

    You can drag out any military expert you want. I got 24 years of Naval Service and I can tell you - there are plenty of fools in the US military - especially in the retired ranks. See Jesse Ventura.

    EDIT: Here's UBL himself explaining what he did. YouTube - Bin Laden Laughs at Truthers

    Yeah ... I know ... faked tape right? All YOUR evidence is 100 percent valid (including the extraordinary leaps of logic required to believe your silly theory) ... and every point that indicts your theory is a fraud or "faked" by the CIA. Wonderful to have your "magical" side of the argument there bro.

    You are disgracing the memory of so many Americans killed on 9-11 - not to mention the Soldiers we've lost - ALL OF WHOM - were more worthy of respect than your silly troofer theories.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    The CIA didn't make those there, Mr. Rocket Scientist. In fact - many in the US Government thought UBL was dead after the main military thrust into Afghanistan. Why would they allow that thought to get out into the open only to "fake" tapes to ressurect the guy?
    Your asking for my opinion, I have the CIA admitting to creating the tape and planning others. Its to influence public opinion.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post

    You are disgracing the memory of so many Americans killed on 9-11 - not to mention the Soldiers we've lost - ALL OF WHOM - were more worthy of respect than your silly troofer theories.
    That is very far from the truth.

    I promised 9/11 families that I would fight for an independent investigation...and I have friends/family in the military who I respect for serving the country who can openly have a conversation about these things with me without accusing me of being some conspiracy theorist and are quite open minded with the evidence/witnesses I provide them.

    If you are denying the families of 9/11 a non-government sponsored investigation who are asking for it, isnt that a disgrace?

    Are you going to deny the families of 9/11 victims below who lost her loved one at the WTC a real independent investigation?

    9/11 victim's families


    And these victims
    Last edited by ax1; 05-04-2011 at 11:57 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatcop1 View Post
    Who the F are you to come on here and spew this filth and then not even have the balls to give your opinion on the matter in which you repudiate?!

    You are filthy waste of a human being with no value to the race! Sit in your hole and scavenge the webz for with your little truther friends and stay the F out of my way because if I was ever aproched by a jackhole like you spewing your venom I would smash your little fkn head!

    You disgust me! I gave you three chances to provide your opinion on the matter and you cowardly backed down every time that's because deep down you people realize that your theroy's are rubbish and you have nothing but a couple frigging fruit loop youtube video's to back your rediculous claims!

    The saddest part of the whole thing is how much credit you give the U.S. Government for hiding such atrocities! Pa-lease!!!!!
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.
    All my life I've never stopped to worry 'bout a thing,
    Open up and shout it out, an' never try to sing,
    Wondering if I've done it wrong,
    Will this depression last for long, wont you tell me,
    Where have all the good times gone.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.
    Not blowin smoke up an admin's rectum here, but dang... that has to be one of the absolute best pieces that I have read on the topic to date. Kudos. Major kudos.
    -RecoverBro Zombie Specialist and Paracord Wrangler
    -Independent due to lies that hurt my family. Loyal to myself and my Bro's.

  7. I heard from very reliable sources about OBL being dead many years ago from medical reasons.

    I see the sudden reappearance and death as a precursor to actually reduce some aspects of military spending...something has to get cut in order to keep the economy from totally tanking within the next year or so.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by methusaleh View Post
    I heard from very reliable sources about OBL being dead many years ago from medical reasons.

    I see the sudden reappearance and death as a precursor to actually reduce some aspects of military spending...something has to get cut in order to keep the economy from totally tanking within the next year or so.
    I wish this were true but I fear Americans keep this stupid lie of a war going, just out of egotistical pride to justify the billions already spent and the lives wasted. When will this absurdity end!

  9. FOXNews.com
    Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
    Wednesday, December 26, 2001

  10. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn;
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.

    God bless America.
    I served as well... Post 9-11
    Our beautiful country has strayed far from it's meaning... All our country is was an idea, those ideals have long been overlooked and replaced by corruption. Internationally we are now considered more communist then China.

    There are very few people that really know what has gone on and I doubt that will change. None of us should say we know anything for sure, but to say our media isn't controlled and our government hasn't intentionally lied to us and the world is a fantasy I wish I could believe.

    In response to whatever that comment was supposed to be above...
    Troofers? Really? That's a really intelligent way to discuss something, you sheep. (sorry I had to)

    If anybody's interested, look up Ron Paul... I don't agree with everything he says but he is one of the only men "representing" us that actually votes according to what he says. And hasn't changed what his believes are magically based on popular trends.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/173797-one-small-step.html Getting my ass beat and logging it.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicRyan1 View Post

    God bless America.
    I served as well... Post 9-11
    Our beautiful country has strayed far from it's meaning... All our country is was an idea, those ideals have long been overlooked and replaced by corruption. Internationally we are now considered more communist then China.

    There are very few people that really know what has gone on and I doubt that will change. None of us should say we know anything for sure, but to say our media isn't controlled and our government hasn't intentionally lied to us and the world is a fantasy I wish I could believe.

    In response to whatever that comment was supposed to be above...
    Troofers? Really? That's a really intelligent way to discuss something, you sheep. (sorry I had to)

    If anybody's interested, look up Ron Paul... I don't agree with everything he says but he is one of the only men "representing" us that actually votes according to what he says. And hasn't changed what his believes are magically based on popular trends.
    Not to change the topic... But who in their right mind thinks the FDA is really looking out for the peoples best interest most of the time...
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/173797-one-small-step.html Getting my ass beat and logging it.

  12. If Obama is so great... why did he have to "sleep" on making the decision to take action. It took him 16 hours to decide to take bin Laden. Bush was criticized for 7 minutes to finish reading to kindergartners.

    Besides that, why did they so conveniently dispose of the body in the water and call it burial at sea before the DNA results even came out?

    Besides these questions, look at the inconsistencies. They can not get their story straight. During the press conference, Obama said that the 40 minute incident was a “firefight.” Now the Pentagon is saying that Osama was unarmed and the only gun conflict happened with his courier on the 2nd floor of the compound. If there was a “firefight” on the second floor before the Seals made it to the third floor to confront Osama, why in the world would he have been unarmed?

    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post

    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.
    I agree with this that it may happen, although a photo doesn't prove the time of death. We need an autopsy with oversight of an independent panel by the American citizens. I dont think it would be difficult for the army to retrieve the body, if its really even there.....

    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicRyan1 View Post
    Not to change the topic... But who in their right mind thinks the FDA is really looking out for the peoples best interest most of the time...
    Stupid isnt it?
    Steroids bad
    Cigarettes good, just pay your taxes (450,000 usa citizens can die every year!)
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.
    you are 100% correct. this is the same thing that has been done since 9-11, the same way that Bush had the terror alert raised prior to the election.

    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals

  15. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals
    Amen to that. They don't care about the American People. They care about themselves and their interests.

  16. How convenient is it to have a 25 minute blackout with our modern technology during the raid? How many more stories are they going to make up? And where was MacGyver?

    quote:
    Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
    The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-compound.html
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  17. So many lies. You could tell that photo was staged. I am embarrassed to call these people our leaders.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    you are 100% correct. this is the same thing that has been done since 9-11, the same way that Bush had the terror alert raised prior to the election.

    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals
    Excellent, and now they can reach out these terror alerts to via Facebook and Twitter right to your cell phone. The millions and millions will be warned when the boogie-men in the caves are ready to strike!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20051719.shtml

    Our buddy the TSA child molesting lord Janet Napolitano will be in charge of the"
    "National Terrorism Advisory System."

    Now that most school children have cell-phones we can go back to the old school Cold War error and every-time the terror alert goes up all the children should "Duck and Cover" like Bert!

    Dont let a terrorist fall on you, where the terror alert goes up on your Twitter, just remember to Duck and Cover!


    Duck and Cover...Duck..and Cover!! Huraayyy!




    Osama's #2 is about to fall on you little girl, better Duck and Cover!
    Last edited by ax1; 05-05-2011 at 04:08 PM.
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  19. So today AL QAEDA confirms OBL's death and vow's to get revenge!

    I'm sorry were you saying something about OBL being dead since 2001?

    Let's not just let this thread die. So you were debunked, Let's hear the convenient reply! Let me guess? They're lying right? it's just propaganda? It's just an excuse to attack us again? lol

  20. This isn't the first time they claimed he died either. Lets not let this thread die.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

  21. Quote Originally Posted by Boatcop1 View Post
    So today AL QAEDA confirms OBL's death and vow's to get revenge!

    I'm sorry were you saying something about OBL being dead since 2001?

    Let's not just let this thread die. So you were debunked, Let's hear the convenient reply! Let me guess? They're lying right? it's just propaganda? It's just an excuse to attack us again? lol
    This isnt the first time AlQueda confirmed Bin Laden's death.

    Again ...I will re-post this, Bin Laden diet of medical reasons back in 2001.

    I will provide a report by Dan Rather with witnesses confirming his visit to a military hospital in Pakistan the night before 9/11/2001 and I have a report from fox news with Al-Queda confirming his death several months later.

    Bin Laden was terminally ill in 2001 with marfan syndrome (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001455/)" and eventually died of natural causes later that year. It is medically impossible for him to have lived until 2011, if you watch his old video's he couldnt even move his left arm.



    Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    This isn't the first time they claimed he died either. Lets not let this thread die.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
    And I will repeat that
    Wednesday, December 26, 2001
    Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
    FOX NEWS
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
    About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
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  22. Boatcop, I dont give opinion, I provide witnesses and evidence. Its your freedom to interpret what I provide and honestly you can decide either way and it doesnt bother me. Its your given right to do so. I do however have all day to provide more witnesses, evidence about any topic I speak of.

    Do you know about the secondary explosions inside the lobby and sub-basement at the world trade center? Conspiracy theory?

    Let these firefighters tell you then in this recently unclassified video that has been withheld by the government.



    More of our heroes speaking out, more bombs in lobby



    Carpenter from trade center witness of explosions in lobby speaking out on his hospital bed



    Bomb in lobby, the lobby was totally gone...."bomb hit the lobby first"



    Not enough to convince you of the sub-basement explosions? Want more witnesses?



    9/11: WTC sub-level explosions Multiple accounts



    9/11 Port Authority cop heard explosion before WTC collapse



    9/11 Cop says numerous secondary explosions heard in WTC

    Last edited by ax1; 05-06-2011 at 04:40 PM.
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  23. N Korea, huh Soviet, huh? Niiiiiiiice. yeah we should probbaly give you a second of our time. NOT. Next !!

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ken22 View Post
    N Korea, huh Soviet, huh? Niiiiiiiice. yeah we should probbaly give you a second of our time. NOT. Next !!
    I live near New York City, born and raised.

  25. Thats even more scary. whats wrong with you? Realy

  26. Quote Originally Posted by ken22 View Post
    Thats even more scary. whats wrong with you? Realy
    Please explain?

  27. Quote Originally Posted by ken22 View Post
    Thats even more scary. whats wrong with you? Realy
    What is wrong with you not questioning your government? Should you just believe everything you are told?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    What is wrong with you not questioning your government? Should you just believe everything you are told?
    Exactly, why should we trust the government, look what they did just a month ago to a deceased 9/11 cop.

    Mayor Bloomberg Confiscates 9/11 Cop's Corpse During Wake



    9/11 NYPD Officers Body Snatched By New York City To Deny Illness Linked To 9/11



    New York City authorities were allegedly so hell-bent on proving that an NYPD cop did not die of a 9/11-related illness that morgue workers were dispatched to a funeral home to take away the body while his grieving family was holding a memorial service, the New York Post reported Wednesday, citing sources."Ten minutes before the wake, the medical examiner called us and said they need to reclaim the body," said Howard Wong, 40, whose brother, George, died on March 24 after a two-year battle with gastric cancer aged 48."The Health Department had issues with the wording on the cause of death -- that he died from exposure to 9/11 toxins -- and they ordered the [Chief] Medical Examiner's Office to do it over," Howard Wong claimed.The family was permitted to carry out the open casket wake Monday night, but the body was taken by the Medical Examiner's Office around 10:00pm local time -- forcing George Wong's relatives to postpone Tuesday's planned viewing and also delay his cremation and funeral."They totally disrespected our family. Now my brother can't even rest in peace because of this," the younger brother said. "I feel horrible, my mother is crying."George Wong, who received a disability retirement in 2006 after 20 years on the force, always believed his disease was caused by his time at Ground Zero following the 9/11 attacks.His hospice doctor, Lyla Correoso, agreed, writing "cancer" from "9/11 toxic exposure" on his death certificate.But a Department of Health bureaucrat sounded the alarm after spotting the finding on the funeral home's cremation permit.The city's official policy remains that there was no conclusive link between exposure to Ground Zero toxins and "emerging illnesses, including cancer," said Health Department spokeswoman Susan Craig.The deceased cop's furious family refused to permit an autopsy, so the city's Chief Medical Examiner's Office did an "external examination," photographed the body, and changed the cause of death to "pending."Only after any mention of 9/11 was scrubbed from his death certificate was the family allowed to collect the body Tuesday -- at their own expense. An abbreviated wake, cremation and funeral -- complete with NYPD pallbearers -- were scheduled for Wednesday.George Wong, who spent several weeks doing security after the Twin Towers fell, should be treated better by the city, his former colleagues said."It's reprehensible. You don't give the body back to the morgue," said a police source who knew George Wong. "Even perps don't deserve this. It's about being a human being. Everyone is livid over this."

  29. I think anyone with an rational thought realizes that the government lies to us and does so regularly. There are so many secret operations, and events that transpire that we dont officially know about.

    I am not saying one way or the other what happened, but to take a government account at face value is foolish imo

  30. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    I am not saying one way or the other what happened, but to take a government account at face value is foolish imo
    ^^^^This
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