Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
- 05-05-2011, 03:25 AM
- 05-05-2011, 10:07 AM
If Obama is so great... why did he have to "sleep" on making the decision to take action. It took him 16 hours to decide to take bin Laden. Bush was criticized for 7 minutes to finish reading to kindergartners.
Besides that, why did they so conveniently dispose of the body in the water and call it burial at sea before the DNA results even came out?
Besides these questions, look at the inconsistencies. They can not get their story straight. During the press conference, Obama said that the 40 minute incident was a “firefight.” Now the Pentagon is saying that Osama was unarmed and the only gun conflict happened with his courier on the 2nd floor of the compound. If there was a “firefight” on the second floor before the Seals made it to the third floor to confront Osama, why in the world would he have been unarmed?
As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.
- 05-05-2011, 10:25 AM
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05-05-2011, 10:31 AM
05-05-2011, 10:33 AM
05-05-2011, 12:44 PM
How convenient is it to have a 25 minute blackout with our modern technology during the raid? How many more stories are they going to make up? And where was MacGyver?
Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
05-05-2011, 02:28 PM
So many lies. You could tell that photo was staged. I am embarrassed to call these people our leaders.
05-05-2011, 03:16 PM
Our buddy the TSA child molesting lord Janet Napolitano will be in charge of the"
"National Terrorism Advisory System."
Now that most school children have cell-phones we can go back to the old school Cold War error and every-time the terror alert goes up all the children should "Duck and Cover" like Bert!
Dont let a terrorist fall on you, where the terror alert goes up on your Twitter, just remember to Duck and Cover!
Duck and Cover...Duck..and Cover!! Huraayyy!
Osama's #2 is about to fall on you little girl, better Duck and Cover!
Last edited by ax1; 05-05-2011 at 04:08 PM.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
05-06-2011, 03:20 PM
So today AL QAEDA confirms OBL's death and vow's to get revenge!
I'm sorry were you saying something about OBL being dead since 2001?
Let's not just let this thread die. So you were debunked, Let's hear the convenient reply! Let me guess? They're lying right? it's just propaganda? It's just an excuse to attack us again? lol
05-06-2011, 03:24 PM
05-06-2011, 03:47 PM
Again ...I will re-post this, Bin Laden diet of medical reasons back in 2001.
I will provide a report by Dan Rather with witnesses confirming his visit to a military hospital in Pakistan the night before 9/11/2001 and I have a report from fox news with Al-Queda confirming his death several months later.
Bin Laden was terminally ill in 2001 with marfan syndrome (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0001455/)" and eventually died of natural causes later that year. It is medically impossible for him to have lived until 2011, if you watch his old video's he couldnt even move his left arm.
Wednesday, December 26, 2001
Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
About 30 close associates of bin Laden in Al Qaeda, including his most trusted and personal bodyguards, his family members and some "Taliban friends," attended the funeral rites. A volley of bullets was also fired to pay final tribute to the "great leader."
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
05-06-2011, 04:09 PM
Boatcop, I dont give opinion, I provide witnesses and evidence. Its your freedom to interpret what I provide and honestly you can decide either way and it doesnt bother me. Its your given right to do so. I do however have all day to provide more witnesses, evidence about any topic I speak of.
Do you know about the secondary explosions inside the lobby and sub-basement at the world trade center? Conspiracy theory?
Let these firefighters tell you then in this recently unclassified video that has been withheld by the government.
More of our heroes speaking out, more bombs in lobby
Carpenter from trade center witness of explosions in lobby speaking out on his hospital bed
Bomb in lobby, the lobby was totally gone...."bomb hit the lobby first"
Not enough to convince you of the sub-basement explosions? Want more witnesses?
9/11: WTC sub-level explosions Multiple accounts
9/11 Port Authority cop heard explosion before WTC collapse
9/11 Cop says numerous secondary explosions heard in WTC
Last edited by ax1; 05-06-2011 at 04:40 PM.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
05-06-2011, 04:40 PM
N Korea, huh Soviet, huh? Niiiiiiiice. yeah we should probbaly give you a second of our time. NOT. Next !!
05-06-2011, 04:44 PM
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05-06-2011, 04:52 PM
Mayor Bloomberg Confiscates 9/11 Cop's Corpse During Wake
9/11 NYPD Officers Body Snatched By New York City To Deny Illness Linked To 9/11
New York City authorities were allegedly so hell-bent on proving that an NYPD cop did not die of a 9/11-related illness that morgue workers were dispatched to a funeral home to take away the body while his grieving family was holding a memorial service, the New York Post reported Wednesday, citing sources."Ten minutes before the wake, the medical examiner called us and said they need to reclaim the body," said Howard Wong, 40, whose brother, George, died on March 24 after a two-year battle with gastric cancer aged 48."The Health Department had issues with the wording on the cause of death -- that he died from exposure to 9/11 toxins -- and they ordered the [Chief] Medical Examiner's Office to do it over," Howard Wong claimed.The family was permitted to carry out the open casket wake Monday night, but the body was taken by the Medical Examiner's Office around 10:00pm local time -- forcing George Wong's relatives to postpone Tuesday's planned viewing and also delay his cremation and funeral."They totally disrespected our family. Now my brother can't even rest in peace because of this," the younger brother said. "I feel horrible, my mother is crying."George Wong, who received a disability retirement in 2006 after 20 years on the force, always believed his disease was caused by his time at Ground Zero following the 9/11 attacks.His hospice doctor, Lyla Correoso, agreed, writing "cancer" from "9/11 toxic exposure" on his death certificate.But a Department of Health bureaucrat sounded the alarm after spotting the finding on the funeral home's cremation permit.The city's official policy remains that there was no conclusive link between exposure to Ground Zero toxins and "emerging illnesses, including cancer," said Health Department spokeswoman Susan Craig.The deceased cop's furious family refused to permit an autopsy, so the city's Chief Medical Examiner's Office did an "external examination," photographed the body, and changed the cause of death to "pending."Only after any mention of 9/11 was scrubbed from his death certificate was the family allowed to collect the body Tuesday -- at their own expense. An abbreviated wake, cremation and funeral -- complete with NYPD pallbearers -- were scheduled for Wednesday.George Wong, who spent several weeks doing security after the Twin Towers fell, should be treated better by the city, his former colleagues said."It's reprehensible. You don't give the body back to the morgue," said a police source who knew George Wong. "Even perps don't deserve this. It's about being a human being. Everyone is livid over this."
05-06-2011, 04:59 PM
I think anyone with an rational thought realizes that the government lies to us and does so regularly. There are so many secret operations, and events that transpire that we dont officially know about.
I am not saying one way or the other what happened, but to take a government account at face value is foolish imo
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05-06-2011, 05:00 PM
05-06-2011, 05:27 PM
05-06-2011, 05:29 PM
05-06-2011, 06:54 PM
05-06-2011, 07:03 PM
You people post these vids and state the testimony as fact when in fact it's just opinion just like mine and yours! So you have a few videos? great! how about the millions of people in the world that know what really happend! You people are the minority so deal with it!
Your "evidence" is what you want it to be! propaganda!
Your loony and it sickens me that there are actually people out there that believe all this BS!
I dont give a **** if i get banned. I was at ground zero on September 12 searching and providing so you can all go F yourself! I was there, i lived it!
Question your governemnt all day, I do! But this stuff is just too far and too much! If there was any truth to it you wouldl have alot more than a couple loony people talking about secondary explosions!
When you go home and exhale ash for a week after standing side by side with complete strangers performing SAR then maybe you will have a clue! Nobody in this country would ever do that to ourselves! :*******:
05-06-2011, 07:08 PM
i really have no problem with burial at sea, no place for idiots to go and worship that dirtbag. plus it was short and sweet-over before the zealots even new what had happened.
05-06-2011, 07:15 PM
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05-06-2011, 07:19 PM
I don't believe anyone here is saying that they have the answers and have proof as to what really happened. I in particular am confused about all of the conflicting stories to A. 9/11 and B. bin Laden's death.
Sometimes you just have to ask why did things happen as they did? Why are there so many conflicting stories about what happened with bin Laden? Why was the Air Force not able to mobilize fighter jets to neutralize the third and fourth hijacked planes? It is all just a little odd.
05-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Norman Mineta Confirms That **** Cheney Ordered Stand Down on 9/11
Former Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta answered questions from members of 9/11 Truth Seattle.org about his testimony before the 9/11 Commission report.
Mineta says Vice President Cheney was "absolutely" already there when he arrived at approximately 9:25 a.m. in the PEOC (Presidential Emergency Operations Center) bunker on the morning of 9/11. Mineta seemed shocked to learn that the 9/11 Commission Report claimed Cheney had not arrived there until 9:58-- after the Pentagon had been hit, a report that Mineta definitively contradicted.
Norman Mineta revealed that Lynn Cheney was also in the PEOC bunker already at the time of his arrival, along with a number of other staff.
Rest of story here:
His testimony was cut out of the 9/11 commission report. Dont believe there is a testimony, well here it is then go by the 9/11 commission report book and find it, which you wont since its not even there.
911 Commission - Trans. Sec Norman Mineta Testimony
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05-06-2011, 07:47 PM
05-06-2011, 08:01 PM
Craig Bartmer, an NYPD officer who was present at the destruction of World Trade Center Building 7, testifies that he heard a series of explosions, "Thum, thum, thum, thum, thum" preceding the fall of the building. At the same time a TV interview is being conducted down the street, far from the building. The microphone picks up the same series of sharp, percussive sounds, confirming Bartmer's description. NIST artificially ruled out all such testimony by setting up a hypothetical loudness threshold for sounds it considered to be capable of destroying columns in the building. The video goes on to question NIST's computed loudness threshold below which they would not investigate explosions.
9/11 Truth: NYPD first responder speaks out
Last edited by ax1; 05-06-2011 at 08:21 PM.
05-06-2011, 08:44 PM
Let me start out by saying that I love America and the ideals it was built on, I am not taking a stance on the 9/11 issue, as I don't know nearly enough to argue intelligently for either side. I am glad that Osama Bin Laden is dead, whether it was a few days ago or a few years ago, no one can deny he was a bad guy and his killing is justifiable. Even the Dalai Lama says so.
On that note, I think it is important to remember that it is good to question everyone, blindly accepting information from the media or the government is naive. Hell I had a college prof. with a PhD in nutrition tell me once that I was eating too many vegetables and not enough grains. I was told to include more bread, pasta, and cereal in my diet. If that's not bass akwards I don't know what is... Anyway my point is the government is not to be blindly trusted, and it is not wrong to question it IMO.
Has any one heard of this? he Business Plot (also the Plot Against FDR and the White House Putsch) was an alleged political conspiracy in 1933. Retired Marine Corps Major General Smedley Butler claimed that wealthy businessmen were plotting to create a fascist veterans' organization and use it in a coup d’état to overthrow United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt, with Butler as leader of that organization. In 1934 Butler testified to the McCormack–****stein Congressional committee on these claims. In the opinion of the committee, these allegations were credible. One of the purported plotters, Gerald MacGuire, vehemently denied any such plot. In their report, the Congressional committee stated that it was able to confirm Butler's statements other than the proposal from MacGuire which it considered more or less confirmed by MacGuire's European reports. No one was prosecuted.
While historians have questioned whether or not a coup was actually close to execution, most agree that some sort of "wild scheme" was contemplated and discussed.
05-06-2011, 08:51 PM
That information is actually found in the Library of Congress believe it or not.
It had much to do with Prescott Bush (George Bush's grandfather), JP Morgan, Dupont and Remington family. Prescott used to finance with the Nazi's including after WWII started.....Whats sick and gross is that Prescott went into power as a US Senator.
but here vvvv
I know a very old person who knew the the Bush family in Connecticut who knows first hand how corrupt that family is.
Here is a video on this topic
Journalist John Buchanan about the history between The Bush family's friendship with the 3rd Reich.
05-06-2011, 09:03 PM
agree with David Dunn here, the US government is just as ****ing shady and twisted as any other government- if not more.
05-06-2011, 09:05 PM
05-06-2011, 09:10 PM
ok, here is the biggest thing that concerns me. the day before 911 rumsfeld admitted in a televised interview that there was 2.3 TRILLION dollars missing and unaccounted for. the next day the exact location in the pentagon where all of the pertinent information for tracking the money was destroyed during the attack on the pentagon.
c'mon now 2.3 TRILLION!!!! that is a hellova lot of motivation. whatever happened i truely believe rumsfeld and cheney are both dastardly bastards.
05-06-2011, 09:51 PM
05-06-2011, 10:03 PM
05-06-2011, 11:07 PM
One thing that always sparked my interest is that I have yet to see actual video of the plane that crashed into the pentagon. I watched a 9/11 "tribute" type video on National Geographic last night that shows security camera footage of the impact but its really choppy, looks like freeze frame almost. I always wondered how such an important/ high security building could only have one angle of the plane crash with such a choppy image? I don't doubt that it was a plane that crashed into the pentagon, many eye witnesses report seeing it. However, one guy on the same program also reported a second smaller plane following the commercial airplane and then veering off just before impact. What could that have been?
Another thing, it was mentioned earlier in the thread that for this to play out they would have had to find 4 pilots willing to crash planes... not true if you consider the idea that the pilots were unaware of the plot and that it was a direct contract with the terrorists who would have been honored to be a martyr... Not saying this is true, just saying its possible.
Another strange coincidence is the fact that there were training missions going on the morning of 9/11 that simulated the very scenario of a plane hijacking. This causes confusion for defense and flight control operators.
Another strange coincidence... and I'm possibly reading into this one a bit, but the name of the said training missions on the morning of 9/11 were called "vigilant guardian" and the operation to find and kill osama bin laden was called "vigilant resolve." Of course, there are logical explanations for this that have nothing to do with conspiracy, just something I noticed and found interesting.
05-06-2011, 11:19 PM
For your 3rd statement, NORAD was running a drill that morning of 9/11 that planes were being hijacked with live planes for the drill.
Also, the London train bombing, 7/7/05 a terror drill was being run at the same exact place and at the same exact time of the bombing.
05-06-2011, 11:21 PM
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