Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    My opinion is that the American people should appoint an investigative panel to look into the situation. Its not a matter of my opinion to be honest.
    What a coward! I hope this sticks around so people can see how pathetic you truthers are! Any time your challenged or asked what YOU think it becomes a song and dance!

    You post all this crap on here to try and influence other's opinion but cannot provide your own! Punk ass move.

    Done/


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Boatcop1 View Post
    What a coward! I hope this sticks around so people can see how pathetic you truthers are! Any time your challenged or asked what YOU think it becomes a song and dance!

    You post all this crap on here to try and influence other's opinion but cannot provide your own! Punk ass move.

    Done/
    People have a right to their own opinion, I am not the one to influence them. I just present witnesses and evidence and the reader can have their own opinion, and yours is welcoming to me as it is your right to do so.

    What really matters to me is that I help the family of 9/11 victims get a new independent investigation going...

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    My opinion is that the American people should appoint an independent panel to investigate the situation. Its not a matter of my opinion to be honest.
    Not getting into it, but nobody should be against an independent investigation.

    Furthermore, to not question our government is unpatriotic.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    And you have to believe that every tape that Bin Laden has put out since 9-11 is a fake ... so you have to believe that MORE people are involved making these fake tapes.
    Actually, I have CIA Officials here admitting to faking a Bin Laden video and planning out other extensive other fake projects including a fake hidden camera footage of Saddam Hussein and a teenage boy having sex. in this Washington Post article.

    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/spy-t...deas_to_d.html
    quote:
    "The agency actually did make a video purporting to show Osama bin Laden and his cronies sitting around a campfire swigging bottles of liquor and savoring their conquests with boys, one of the former CIA officers recalled, chuckling at the memory. The actors were drawn from “some of us darker-skinned employees,” he said.

    Eventually, “things ground to a halt,” the other former officer said, because no one could come to agreement on the projects."

    Fake Saddam video plot
    http://www.theworld.org/2010/05/fake-saddam-video-plot/
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post

    EDIT: To believe the US government was involved in 9-11 means believing that the President was willing to kill 3,000 Americans. Not only that - but he also identified at least three pilots willing to to do the same - and also willing to kill themselves in the act. Then, if you really want to get radical - you have to believe that lots of other men were involved to "rig" explosions in the Twin Towers to make them fall as fast they did. You have to believe that there were numerous people working for the President to coordinate all this ... and you have to believe that all these people were involved and not a single one of them is talking.
    In regards to this statement, how do you feel about when the US General of all American Intelligence (Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army) says 9/11 is a fraud?

    Quote:
    "Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret) – Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center. Former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence. 32-year Army career. Member, Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.

    Major General Albert "Bert" N. Stubblebine III, head of all intelligence says:
    Pentagon NOT hit by a plane
    WTC 7 brought down by explosives
    Media in America is controlled


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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Actually, I have CIA Officials here admitting to faking a Bin Laden video and planning out other extensive other fake projects including a fake hidden camera footage of Saddam Hussein and a teenage boy having sex. in this Washington Post article.

    http://www.theworld.org/2010/05/fake-saddam-video-plot/
    Uhm ... Sorry - but you don't. You're doing exactly what you "Troofers" always do when your idiotic conspiracy theories are challenged - you're changing the subject.

    The faked tapes you're talking about are "Psyops" tactics - which are a part of war. The tapes i'm talking about are the tapes that UBL made to inspire his followers and give them directions worldwide.

    The CIA didn't make those there, Mr. Rocket Scientist. In fact - many in the US Government thought UBL was dead after the main military thrust into Afghanistan. Why would they allow that thought to get out into the open only to "fake" tapes to ressurect the guy?

    I know you'll have an INCREDIBLE answer to that because TROOFERS always do!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    In regards to this statement, how do you feel about when the US General of all American Intelligence (Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army) says 9/11 is a fraud?
    Anyone who believes the US government "pulled off" 9-11 is a fraud.

    You can drag out any military expert you want. I got 24 years of Naval Service and I can tell you - there are plenty of fools in the US military - especially in the retired ranks. See Jesse Ventura.

    EDIT: Here's UBL himself explaining what he did. YouTube - Bin Laden Laughs at Truthers

    Yeah ... I know ... faked tape right? All YOUR evidence is 100 percent valid (including the extraordinary leaps of logic required to believe your silly theory) ... and every point that indicts your theory is a fraud or "faked" by the CIA. Wonderful to have your "magical" side of the argument there bro.

    You are disgracing the memory of so many Americans killed on 9-11 - not to mention the Soldiers we've lost - ALL OF WHOM - were more worthy of respect than your silly troofer theories.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post
    The CIA didn't make those there, Mr. Rocket Scientist. In fact - many in the US Government thought UBL was dead after the main military thrust into Afghanistan. Why would they allow that thought to get out into the open only to "fake" tapes to ressurect the guy?
    Your asking for my opinion, I have the CIA admitting to creating the tape and planning others. Its to influence public opinion.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by HondaV65 View Post

    You are disgracing the memory of so many Americans killed on 9-11 - not to mention the Soldiers we've lost - ALL OF WHOM - were more worthy of respect than your silly troofer theories.
    That is very far from the truth.

    I promised 9/11 families that I would fight for an independent investigation...and I have friends/family in the military who I respect for serving the country who can openly have a conversation about these things with me without accusing me of being some conspiracy theorist and are quite open minded with the evidence/witnesses I provide them.

    If you are denying the families of 9/11 a non-government sponsored investigation who are asking for it, isnt that a disgrace?

    Are you going to deny the families of 9/11 victims below who lost her loved one at the WTC a real independent investigation?

    9/11 victim's families


    And these victims
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boatcop1 View Post
    Who the F are you to come on here and spew this filth and then not even have the balls to give your opinion on the matter in which you repudiate?!

    You are filthy waste of a human being with no value to the race! Sit in your hole and scavenge the webz for with your little truther friends and stay the F out of my way because if I was ever aproched by a jackhole like you spewing your venom I would smash your little fkn head!

    You disgust me! I gave you three chances to provide your opinion on the matter and you cowardly backed down every time that's because deep down you people realize that your theroy's are rubbish and you have nothing but a couple frigging fruit loop youtube video's to back your rediculous claims!

    The saddest part of the whole thing is how much credit you give the U.S. Government for hiding such atrocities! Pa-lease!!!!!
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.
    Not blowin smoke up an admin's rectum here, but dang... that has to be one of the absolute best pieces that I have read on the topic to date. Kudos. Major kudos.
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  12. I heard from very reliable sources about OBL being dead many years ago from medical reasons.

    I see the sudden reappearance and death as a precursor to actually reduce some aspects of military spending...something has to get cut in order to keep the economy from totally tanking within the next year or so.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by methusaleh View Post
    I heard from very reliable sources about OBL being dead many years ago from medical reasons.

    I see the sudden reappearance and death as a precursor to actually reduce some aspects of military spending...something has to get cut in order to keep the economy from totally tanking within the next year or so.
    I wish this were true but I fear Americans keep this stupid lie of a war going, just out of egotistical pride to justify the billions already spent and the lives wasted. When will this absurdity end!

  14. FOXNews.com
    Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
    Wednesday, December 26, 2001

  15. Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn;
    You need to relax. Express yourself without insulting.

    This whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    Helicopters land 50 yards from a military training facility at 1:30AM - nothing.
    His body was in the water before the DNA results were confirmed.
    DNA match to family members multiple times removed.
    Islamic rites: bury ASAP, most dignified in the ground, buried at sea is considered lost not buried -"buried at sea is not acceptable".
    No pictures, no proof, no evidence whatsoever - trust me, he dead, we killed him.
    No picture, we don't want to incite them - what are we afraid now?

    Your freedom has been bought and sold with your right to have full disclosure and truth. You are told what is true and what is not. You have no power or authority to challenge anything your government tells you.

    We will defend democracy and the human rights of all people foreign and domestic as long as we don't hurt their feelings, force them against their will to disclose information, violate their civil liberties and right, offend their belief systems, and or say or do anything that is "mean". This is a bull**** state of affairs that we have allowed our government to subject us to.

    We paid Osama Bin Laden to fight the Russians then we ****ed him. He was true to his cause to retaliate and have his revenge. His legacy will not only be the WTC bombing but it will also be that he caused our very freedom to be taken by our government - that will be his legacy and his success.

    Open your eyes people. It is not we the people for the people. It is we the government and whatever the **** we want to tell the people is best for the people.

    God bless America.
    I served as well... Post 9-11
    Our beautiful country has strayed far from it's meaning... All our country is was an idea, those ideals have long been overlooked and replaced by corruption. Internationally we are now considered more communist then China.

    There are very few people that really know what has gone on and I doubt that will change. None of us should say we know anything for sure, but to say our media isn't controlled and our government hasn't intentionally lied to us and the world is a fantasy I wish I could believe.

    In response to whatever that comment was supposed to be above...
    Troofers? Really? That's a really intelligent way to discuss something, you sheep. (sorry I had to)

    If anybody's interested, look up Ron Paul... I don't agree with everything he says but he is one of the only men "representing" us that actually votes according to what he says. And hasn't changed what his believes are magically based on popular trends.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by anabolicRyan1 View Post

    God bless America.
    I served as well... Post 9-11
    Our beautiful country has strayed far from it's meaning... All our country is was an idea, those ideals have long been overlooked and replaced by corruption. Internationally we are now considered more communist then China.

    There are very few people that really know what has gone on and I doubt that will change. None of us should say we know anything for sure, but to say our media isn't controlled and our government hasn't intentionally lied to us and the world is a fantasy I wish I could believe.

    In response to whatever that comment was supposed to be above...
    Troofers? Really? That's a really intelligent way to discuss something, you sheep. (sorry I had to)

    If anybody's interested, look up Ron Paul... I don't agree with everything he says but he is one of the only men "representing" us that actually votes according to what he says. And hasn't changed what his believes are magically based on popular trends.
    Not to change the topic... But who in their right mind thinks the FDA is really looking out for the peoples best interest most of the time...
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  17. If Obama is so great... why did he have to "sleep" on making the decision to take action. It took him 16 hours to decide to take bin Laden. Bush was criticized for 7 minutes to finish reading to kindergartners.

    Besides that, why did they so conveniently dispose of the body in the water and call it burial at sea before the DNA results even came out?

    Besides these questions, look at the inconsistencies. They can not get their story straight. During the press conference, Obama said that the 40 minute incident was a “firefight.” Now the Pentagon is saying that Osama was unarmed and the only gun conflict happened with his courier on the 2nd floor of the compound. If there was a “firefight” on the second floor before the Seals made it to the third floor to confront Osama, why in the world would he have been unarmed?

    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post

    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.
    I agree with this that it may happen, although a photo doesn't prove the time of death. We need an autopsy with oversight of an independent panel by the American citizens. I dont think it would be difficult for the army to retrieve the body, if its really even there.....

    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicRyan1 View Post
    Not to change the topic... But who in their right mind thinks the FDA is really looking out for the peoples best interest most of the time...
    Stupid isnt it?
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    As for not wanting to release the photo of the dead body, I will bet you anything that we see that photo before the election. It will be just as the buzz starts to die down.
    you are 100% correct. this is the same thing that has been done since 9-11, the same way that Bush had the terror alert raised prior to the election.

    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals
    Amen to that. They don't care about the American People. They care about themselves and their interests.

  21. How convenient is it to have a 25 minute blackout with our modern technology during the raid? How many more stories are they going to make up? And where was MacGyver?

    quote:
    Blackout during raid on bin Laden compound
    The head of the CIA admitted yesterday that there was no live video footage of the raid on Osama bin Laden's compound as further doubts emerged about the US version of events.
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  22. So many lies. You could tell that photo was staged. I am embarrassed to call these people our leaders.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    you are 100% correct. this is the same thing that has been done since 9-11, the same way that Bush had the terror alert raised prior to the election.

    Lets face it, they are all friggin criminals
    Excellent, and now they can reach out these terror alerts to via Facebook and Twitter right to your cell phone. The millions and millions will be warned when the boogie-men in the caves are ready to strike!

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/...20051719.shtml

    Our buddy the TSA child molesting lord Janet Napolitano will be in charge of the"
    "National Terrorism Advisory System."

    Now that most school children have cell-phones we can go back to the old school Cold War error and every-time the terror alert goes up all the children should "Duck and Cover" like Bert!

    Dont let a terrorist fall on you, where the terror alert goes up on your Twitter, just remember to Duck and Cover!


    Duck and Cover...Duck..and Cover!! Huraayyy!




    Osama's #2 is about to fall on you little girl, better Duck and Cover!
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  24. So today AL QAEDA confirms OBL's death and vow's to get revenge!

    I'm sorry were you saying something about OBL being dead since 2001?

    Let's not just let this thread die. So you were debunked, Let's hear the convenient reply! Let me guess? They're lying right? it's just propaganda? It's just an excuse to attack us again? lol

  25. This isn't the first time they claimed he died either. Lets not let this thread die.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html
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