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  1. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    it is our own fault, how did we ever turn over this kind of power to the top 1%. the united states frowns on military intervention of protesters in arab states, but what do you think they would do if the american people finally got fed up with all of this crap?
    Now you getting why Im exposing the the FEMA concentration camps being put into place all across the states and all the caskets they have been purchasing.

    A guy who works at one told me..."We are preparing for a wave of mass chaos" - Anonymous (but Ill reveal he is a former NY State Trooper 20+ years)

    As to why? Thats because they are smarter than us. They have master psychology working behind the scenes and when you run most aspects of media and education (Department of Education) you get what we have now and getting into.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I know, thats one of the huge comedies, of course it would be no different here.
    You remind me that sometimes we do have to laugh this off!

    George Carlin -"Who Really Controls America"

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  3. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    For Ecoscience? I purchased it on PDF actually, I started reading it. It can be found online for much cheaper than $100.

    here is more info on it

    quote:
    In a book Holdren co-authored in 1977, the man now firmly in control of science
    policy in the United States
    under POTUS Obama, topics include:

    + Women could be forced to abort their pregnancies, whether they wanted to or
    not;

    + The population at large could be sterilized by infertility drugs intentionally
    put into the nation's drinking water or in food;

    + Single mothers and teen mothers should have their babies seized from them
    against their will and given away to other couples to raise;

    + People who "contribute to social deterioration" (i.e. undesirables) "can be
    required by law to exercise reproductive responsibility" -- in other words,
    be compelled to have abortions or be sterilized.

    + A transnational "Planetary Regime" should assume control of the global economy
    and also dictate the most intimate details of Americans' lives -- using an armed
    international police force.
    Sign me up!

  4. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I see, my research on the eugenics program Planned Parenthood and its creation for the termination of Blacks had me jumping to conclusions slightly to fast in my previous post.
    see in some ways, I agree with eugenics as well. Not as pointed towards a single race, but in a general way. Look at reality. You know part of why medical expenses are so high nowadays? Becuase over the last 100 years we've managed to find ways to keep people alive who have genetic defects (predisposition to heart attack, diabetes, you name it) who likely would have died without reproducing in the past. Now they are spreading their DNA, which means a larger percentage of the population will have those diseases. As medical science evolves more, it just becomes worse.

    If you've never seen it, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. Although its mostly about intelligent design, there are a couple parts on eugenics. The most interesting quote is from Darwin, "Hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed". Although Darwin goes on to talk about sympathy being why we allow this in humans, frankly all I see is us leading down a spiral of a devolving human race

    I really don't mind the scenario as presented in the movie Gattaca, its possibly the only thing that can save our species at this point

  5. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post

    If you've never seen it, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. Although its mostly about intelligent design, there are a couple parts on eugenics. The most interesting quote is from Darwin, "Hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed". Although Darwin goes on to talk about sympathy being why we allow this in humans, frankly all I see is us leading down a spiral of a devolving human race

    I really don't mind the scenario as presented in the movie Gattaca, its possibly the only thing that can save our species at this point
    I know you in no way meant that you support cultural eugenics.

    Im not a Darwin guy (Ill add Im a atheist against Darwin, usually religious people hate him, lol) Ill have to get into that another time falling behind my work here, lol

    That movie looks very interesting, I will definitely watch it. Ill have to look into Ben Stein's background and where his money comes from. Its free on youtube if anybody reading this want to know...

    Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed (Super Trailer)



    Edit: Ill have to watch Gattaca as well.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    see in some ways, I agree with eugenics as well. Not as pointed towards a single race, but in a general way. Look at reality. You know part of why medical expenses are so high nowadays? Becuase over the last 100 years we've managed to find ways to keep people alive who have genetic defects (predisposition to heart attack, diabetes, you name it) who likely would have died without reproducing in the past. Now they are spreading their DNA, which means a larger percentage of the population will have those diseases. As medical science evolves more, it just becomes worse.

    If you've never seen it, watch the movie Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. Although its mostly about intelligent design, there are a couple parts on eugenics. The most interesting quote is from Darwin, "Hardly any one is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed". Although Darwin goes on to talk about sympathy being why we allow this in humans, frankly all I see is us leading down a spiral of a devolving human race

    I really don't mind the scenario as presented in the movie Gattaca, its possibly the only thing that can save our species at this point
    c'mon easy, you don't really believe medical costs are so high because people are living longer, do you??? for pete's sake medicare pays the old folks bills, how does that increase my cost for medicine?
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    c'mon easy, you don't really believe medical costs are so high because people are living longer, do you??? for pete's sake medicare pays the old folks bills, how does that increase my cost for medicine?
    Its because people who would have died before having children now live, passing on the genetics. And realistically yes, becuase people live longer there are more and more treatments so the cost of your medical expenses for the span of your life is greater, and that expense gets spread through insurance and your taxes. As well, what you have to look at is the outliers in terms of costs are the most expensive. for instance, take a child diagnosed before birth through ultrasounds with Congenital Diaphragmatic Hernia.

    http://fetus.ucsfmedicalcenter.org/cdh/learn_more.asp

    Even just 30 or 40 years ago, guess what? that child would have been stillborn, or died within minutes to hours of being born. Now they have ways to diagnose it in the womb. It requires immediate surgery, plus potentially years worth of follow up surgeries. One of my wife's friends had a child with that. Spent her first year in the hospital in intensive care the whole time, and now at I think 4 years old hasn't gone more than 2 months without at least one major bad event of some sort that required a hospital visit, as well as having 5 or more doctors visits a month regularly. Her first year in the hospital was a mult-million dollar bill.

    Ok sure, it doesn't raise the cost of your healthCARE but it does raise the cost of your healthINSURANCE as the insurance companies spread the cost over all the users. This is one of the bits of verbal sleight of hand that Obama used in getting obamacare passed, somehow trying to tie together the costs of insurance + care, which isn't truly accurate

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Its because people who would have died before having children now live, passing on the genetics. And realistically yes, becuase people live longer there are more and more treatments so the cost of your medical expenses for the span of your life is greater, and that expense gets spread through insurance and your taxes. As well, what you have to look at is the outliers in terms of costs are the most expensive. for instance, take a child diagnosed before birth through ultrasounds with Congenital Diaphragmatic Hernia.

    http://fetus.ucsfmedicalcenter.org/cdh/learn_more.asp

    Even just 30 or 40 years ago, guess what? that child would have been stillborn, or died within minutes to hours of being born. Now they have ways to diagnose it in the womb. It requires immediate surgery, plus potentially years worth of follow up surgeries. One of my wife's friends had a child with that. Spent her first year in the hospital in intensive care the whole time, and now at I think 4 years old hasn't gone more than 2 months without at least one major bad event of some sort that required a hospital visit, as well as having 5 or more doctors visits a month regularly. Her first year in the hospital was a mult-million dollar bill.

    Ok sure, it doesn't raise the cost of your healthCARE but it does raise the cost of your healthINSURANCE as the insurance companies spread the cost over all the users. This is one of the bits of verbal sleight of hand that Obama used in getting obamacare passed, somehow trying to tie together the costs of insurance + care, which isn't truly accurate
    heres the deal, insurance companies demand a group rate, and pay only a percentage of total bill that a uninsured person would have to pay-in other words medicine is inflated so that doc's and hospitals can cover expenses after the insurance only pays 50% of the total bill. if insurance companies had to pay their full 80% you can bet prices would drop dramatically.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    heres the deal, insurance companies demand a group rate, and pay only a percentage of total bill that a uninsured person would have to pay-in other words medicine is inflated so that doc's and hospitals can cover expenses after the insurance only pays 50% of the total bill. if insurance companies had to pay their full 80% you can bet prices would drop dramatically.
    Its going to be against the law to be uninsured. They are expanding 16,500 fully armed combat training IRS agents specifically to enforce this. The IRS power expansion was a part of the bill.

    Insurance companies just pulled off a major ponzi scheme with Obama on the American people forcing them to buy their product.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Its going to be against the law to be uninsured. They are expanding 16,500 fully armed combat training IRS agents specifically to enforce this. The IRS power expansion was a part of the bill.

    Insurance companies just pulled off a major ponzi scheme with Obama on the American people forcing them to buy their product.
    damn-i am still pissed that insurance companies got that dammed seat belt law passed. in indiana you can ride a motorcycle with no helmet, but have to wear a seat belt in a pickup truck-you know why? bikers have lobbyists, lol.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    damn-i am still pissed that insurance companies got that dammed seat belt law passed. in indiana you can ride a motorcycle with no helmet, but have to wear a seat belt in a pickup truck-you know why? bikers have lobbyists, lol.
    You really against seat-belts? I mean...I believe in personal choice and it shouldn't be law, but the seat-belt has saved my butt and medical expenses at least several times.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    You really against seat-belts? I mean...I believe in personal choice and it shouldn't be law, but the seat-belt has saved my butt and medical expenses at least several times.
    hell yes i am against being forced to wear a goddammed seat belt. i have paid 3 tickets, so far!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    heres the deal, insurance companies demand a group rate, and pay only a percentage of total bill that a uninsured person would have to pay-in other words medicine is inflated so that doc's and hospitals can cover expenses after the insurance only pays 50% of the total bill. if insurance companies had to pay their full 80% you can bet prices would drop dramatically.
    no it wouldn't, as health insurance would cost 60% more, so in the end it would save you 0 that is the whole word game with obamacare.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    no it wouldn't, as health insurance would cost 60% more, so in the end it would save you 0 that is the whole word game with obamacare.
    Its going to cost me 100% more because the law will have the IRS force me to buy insurance.

    When I go to the doctor I pay in cash, now this is going to change and Im not happy about it.

    Obamacare is a corporate money grab and mostly benefits Wall Street and bankers.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    no it wouldn't, as health insurance would cost 60% more, so in the end it would save you 0 that is the whole word game with obamacare.
    i think we are screwed no matter what we do. ax1 is right, the gov is getting prepared for citizens taking it to the streets, because that is eventually what it will come to.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  16. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i think we are screwed no matter what we do. ax1 is right, the gov is getting prepared for citizens taking it to the streets, because that is eventually what it will come to.
    Do you know about the "Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD)" that they used on the protestors at the G20? I didnt see CNN showing this on TV during that time.

    Please turn your volume down a little prior to playing this video

    The LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device) was used for the first time in the USA in Pittsburgh during the time of G20 summit on September 24-25th, 2009


  17. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Do you know about the "Long Range Acoustic Device (LRAD)" that they used on the protestors at the G20? I didnt see CNN showing this on TV during that time.

    Please turn your volume down a little prior to playing this video

    The LRAD (Long Range Acoustic Device) was used for the first time in the USA in Pittsburgh during the time of G20 summit on September 24-25th, 2009

    i bet there are plenty of cops who will have a problem with that. at least i hope so!!!
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    i bet there are plenty of cops who will have a problem with that. at least i hope so!!!
    I agree...there are plenty of good law enforcement, military and other government whistle-blowers that have come out to defend out country from these criminal activities. There will be more coming out soon too (I hope, lol.)
    Last edited by ax1; 05-18-2011 at 10:34 PM.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    I agree...there are plenty of good law enforcement, military and other government whistle-blowers that have come out to defend out country from these criminal activities. There will be more coming out soon too (I hope, lol.)
    its part of why they often use the national guard for activities vs regular military. You can pretty well guarantee that if someone is from a national guard troop in alabama that they are less likely to have family in New York for instance. With regular army, where a person lives or is stationed has nothing really to do with where they consider home, but in the national guard it does.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    damn-i am still pissed that insurance companies got that dammed seat belt law passed.
    Agreed, Im in Indiana too. Hard to get used to putting it on.

  21. Keep your Constitutional rights in a bag for 4 more years...Obama the "constitutional lawyer" is suspending the constitution and extending the Patriot Act for another 4 more years!

  22. Just wait until "something happens" and martial law is declared. I have been preparing a "go bag" this week for that very scenario. Mark my words--> It will happen and only the prepared will A) Survive or B) Not placed into camps.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    Just wait until "something happens" and martial law is declared. I have been preparing a "go bag" this week for that very scenario. Mark my words--> It will happen and only the prepared will A) Survive or B) Not placed into camps.
    We already are in martial law...its easily proven, and the Patriot Act is a part of it.

    There are 1-10 stages of martial law and we are currently on level 7. What Im trying to say is that there is room to clamp down much harder when they want to.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    We already are in martial law...its easily proven, and the Patriot Act is a part of it.

    There are 1-10 stages of martial law and we are currently on level 7. What Im trying to say is that there is room to clamp down much harder when they want to.
    I'm talkin military walking down our streets taking our guns away and shipping us to camps or straight up just killing civilians. Watch the movie "The Crazies" this is what it will be like(besides the zombie like disease of course).

  25. What exactly does level 7 mean? I am not that well versed on all this stuff. I didn't realize there were different levels I guess.
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