Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

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  1. Again, wikipedia crap and Operation Northwood never existed.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Again, wikipedia crap and Operation Northwood never existed.
    The government unclassified, why are you denying everything that goes against your beliefs when the very people you support are admitting it? You dont need wikipedia to know about Operation Northwoods...these are public documents from the government.

    Why dont you go to the Library of Congress and look at the documents yourself?
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  3. Here, I have LBJ saying it on a tape recording in regards to the Gulf of Tonkin incident, what else do you want? You still claim falsified documents?

    If you still dont believe it I cannot have any respect for your opinion in any way.

    LBJ Tapes - Gulf of Tonkin Staged as Pretext to Expand Vietnam War
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...7914613956243#

  4. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    I've been fighting in this war on terrorism just so you can sit on your a$$, drinking your mocha frappuccino and posting all this crap.
    Im not posting "crap" for no reason, Im doing it for you, the American people, and our Military service members. Here I am defending 60,000 troops that died for no reason and you call this crap? When government deny's their criminal activity you support it, when they admit to it you debunk them. Your trust in government is quite inconsistent and you only pick and choose what to believe based off your biases.

    And how do you fight a "War on Terror?"

    Terrorism is a tactic, you cant declare a war on a tactic. Its impossible.

    Terrorists are criminals, you cannot declare a war on a idea. It makes no sense, there is no war. There is no war on terror, its incoherently impossible. What happened to crime and good old fashioned police work? All the money going to some bogus war on terror and here at home crime and murders have been going up due to funds going to the wrong place, what is the real danger here? Terrorism is fought with old fashioned police work, not by declaring "war on terror"

    And they say, "They attacked us because they hate our freedom," so now we all need less freedom which means we lost doesnt it? For starters Im referring to the Patriot Act.

    Are we safer now than we are 10 years ago? Id say not...so where is the end you seek where you drop the flag and declare victory?

    How are we going to keep paying for this "War on Terror" borrow more money from the Chinese and have our children pay them back? This country is beyond broke. I think many people have more issues to worry about that a silly "War on Terror"

  5. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Im not posting "crap" for no reason, Im doing it for you, the American people, and our Military service members. Here I am defending 60,000 troops that died for no reason and you call this crap? When government deny's their criminal activity you support it, when they admit to it you debunk them. Your trust in government is quite inconsistent and you only pick and choose what to believe based off your biases.

    And how do you fight a "war on terror."

    Terrorism is a tactic, you cant declare a war on a tactic. Its impossible.

    Terrorists are criminals, you cannot declare a war on a idea. It makes no sense, there is no war. There is no war on terror, its incoherently impossible. What happened to crime and good old fashioned police work? All the money going to some bogus war on terror and here at home crime and murders have been going out due to funds going to the wrong place, what is the real danger here? Terrorism is fought with old fashioned police work, not by declaring "war on terror"

    And they say, "They attacked us because they hate our freedom," so now we all need less freedom which means we lost doesnt it? For starters Im referring to the Patriot Act.

    Are we safer now than we are 10 years ago? Id say not...so where is the end you seek where you drop the flag and declare victory?

    How are we going to keep paying for this "War on Terror" borrow more money from the Chinese and have our children pay them back?
    war on terror is akin to war on drugs-total bullshiit.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    All falsified documents. Believe me or not, I really don't care because I know what I saw. And that 2001 crap is bs. No true reputable person has claimed he was dead in 2001. Videos and documents can so easily be edited. And what difference are you making? It's people like you and the rest of your conspiracy buddies that make me sick because I've been fighting in this war on terrorism just so you can sit on your a$$, drinking your mocha frappuccino and posting all this crap.
    So the other documents are falsified, but the ones you saw weren't? "Videos and documents can so easily be edited."

    And why is some guy on the internet named "JerseyDrew77" more reliable than wikipedia? Seems like he could just make up anything he wanted.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Videos and documents can so easily be edited.
    So why are you basing your argument on a video you saw then? Could it have been staged or edited?

  8. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Again, wikipedia crap and Operation Northwood never existed.
    Really? Wow

  9. Quote Originally Posted by AE14 View Post
    Really? Wow
    Haha. Exactly.
    http://anabolicminds.com/forum/supplements/173797-one-small-step.html Getting my ass beat and logging it.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by wontstop985 View Post
    So the other documents are falsified, but the ones you saw weren't? "Videos and documents can so easily be edited."

    And why is some guy on the internet named "JerseyDrew77" more reliable than wikipedia? Seems like he could just make up anything he wanted.
    If you knew me or what I do for work, then you wouldn't have made that stupid and ignorant comment. I read and write intel. reports, it's part of my job. So no, the documents that I have seen are not falsified. Also, helmet cams in the military, at least the ones in SF, are encrypted which prevents them to be tampered with. So nice try with that one. And wikipedia is not realible at all but if you want to believe that, then go ahead.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Im not posting "crap" for no reason, Im doing it for you, the American people, and our Military service members. Here I am defending 60,000 troops that died for no reason and you call this crap? When government deny's their criminal activity you support it, when they admit to it you debunk them. Your trust in government is quite inconsistent and you only pick and choose what to believe based off your biases.

    And how do you fight a "War on Terror?"

    Terrorism is a tactic, you cant declare a war on a tactic. Its impossible.

    Terrorists are criminals, you cannot declare a war on a idea. It makes no sense, there is no war. There is no war on terror, its incoherently impossible. What happened to crime and good old fashioned police work? All the money going to some bogus war on terror and here at home crime and murders have been going up due to funds going to the wrong place, what is the real danger here? Terrorism is fought with old fashioned police work, not by declaring "war on terror"

    And they say, "They attacked us because they hate our freedom," so now we all need less freedom which means we lost doesnt it? For starters Im referring to the Patriot Act.

    Are we safer now than we are 10 years ago? Id say not...so where is the end you seek where you drop the flag and declare victory?

    How are we going to keep paying for this "War on Terror" borrow more money from the Chinese and have our children pay them back? This country is beyond broke. I think many people have more issues to worry about that a silly "War on Terror"
    Terrorism is not a tactic, it's a selfish act against humanity. Terrorists are not in the same class as your average criminal, that's not even debatable. You are declaring war on the terrorist, terror is just an abreviation. Terrorism is not fought with old fashioned police work. Have you even been to the middle east like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bosnia where terrorism is in full effect? Have you even dealt with these people in the flesh? I have and these terrorists don't fight in a conventional way. They dont go by the Geneva Convention and don't care how or who they kill. So your good old fashion police work won't do sh$t over there. And they didn't attack us because they hate or freedom, they did it to make a point. And just the documents that you are posting up I am saying are falsified just to show people how ridiculous and stupid this thread is.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    If you knew me or what I do for work, then you wouldn't have made that stupid and ignorant comment. I read and write intel. reports, it's part of my job. So no, the documents that I have seen are not falsified. Also, helmet cams in the military, at least the ones in SF, are encrypted which prevents them to be tampered with. So nice try with that one. And wikipedia is not realible at all but if you want to believe that, then go ahead.
    Even if you really did see a video that is no evidence that it was Bin Laden that was murdered. I believe there was a raid, but they took out a civilian.

    Im showing you documents and tapings that are available at the Library of Congress and your still attached to this wikipedia idea.

    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Terrorism is not a tactic, it's a selfish act against humanity. Terrorists are not in the same class as your average criminal, that's not even debatable.
    So are serial killers, rapists, murders, etc....Why dont you declare a war on them too?

    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Terrorism is not fought with old fashioned police work. Have you even been to the middle east like Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Bosnia where terrorism is in full effect? Have you even dealt with these people in the flesh? I have and these terrorists don't fight in a conventional way. They dont go by the Geneva Convention and don't care how or who they kill. So your good old fashion police work won't do sh$t over there. And they didn't attack us because they hate or freedom, they did it to make a point. And just the documents that you are posting up I am saying are falsified just to show people how ridiculous and stupid this thread is.
    No stupid people in a cave are hijacking planes and crashing it into our buildings through our defense, its impossible. If it happens on our home land its all about old fashioned police work. They are attacking us here not over there in some cave.

    Ive supplied you with plenty of evidence that the government staged the entire attack. If you want to fight a war on terror you can start with **** Cheney and questioning him why the transportation security testified that **** Cheney gave the stand down order when the plane was 10 minutes away from the Pentagon.

    And speaking of Afganastan, how about the Military and CIA stop growing all the poppy plants. In 2001 the poppy production was almost eliminated by the Taliban and now Afgan supplies 90% of the worlds population and the Military is helping the locals grow it.

    Now your stuck on "falsified" documents, go to the Library of Congress and steal these documents since you think they are fake so the public cant view them anymore.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by bowhunter28 View Post
    So why are you basing your argument on a video you saw then? Could it have been staged or edited?
    No, it couldn't. Like I said in my previous post, helmet cams are encrypted which prevents them from being tampered with or edited. And the helmet cam recording started when they were in the blackhawks in flight to the mansion that Bin Laden was living in. And those guys would not risk throwing away their careers by making sh$t up and writing false reports about their mission. Writing a false intel. report and mission debrief will suffer major consequences under the UCMJ.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    No, it couldn't. Like I said in my previous post, helmet cams are encrypted which prevents them from being tampered with or edited. And the helmet cam recording started when they were in the blackhawks in flight to the mansion that Bin Laden was living in. And those guys would not risk throwing away their careers by making sh$t up and writing false reports about their mission. Writing a false intel. report and mission debrief will suffer major consequences under the UCMJ.
    Their careers are safe...they are only told to run orders.

    The only thing they risk is their credibility with the American people since they covered up the operation as fast as possible by dumping the body and lying saying that muslims are buried at sea out of religious tradition.

    I know the government isnt stupid enough to kill Bin Laden. If he is your #1 man, and torture led to information to his capture, woudnt the government want to be responsible and catch him alive? Then they can torture him so he can reveal all the information about all the other terrorists to prevent another terrorist attack everybody is so concerned about.

    Isnt it a tragedy that we had our # 1 guy, and interrogating him can lead to the capture of other terrorists and planned operations? I dont think so, the military is not that stupid.

    You have to understand that when the White House releases old video's of Bin Laden and claim they are new and from this "compound" we know this is just a huge cover up. Just more lies its endless.

    MSNBC ran the video under the headline New Video Shows Bin Laden In Gold Robe. However, these tapes are almost identical to footage first released by the Pentagon front group SITE in September 2007. In that footage, Bin Laden also appears with a dyed beard and is wearing exactly the same clothes. The only thing that differs is the color of the background, but in other tapes the background is the same brown color as the 2007 tape. As computer expert Neal Krawetz’s analysis revealed, fake backgrounds are often used on purported “Al-Qaeda” tapes, where a blue screen is used to superimpose the figure of the speaker over a pre-selected backdrop.



    The footage in these tapes purports to show Bin Laden making recordings in late 2010, and yet he looks identical to how he appeared in tapes first released in 2007.


  15. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Even if you really did see a video that is no evidence that it was Bin Laden that was murdered. I believe there was a raid, but they took out a civilian.

    Im showing you documents and tapings that are available at the Library of Congress and your still attached to this wikipedia idea.



    So are serial killers, rapists, murders, etc....Why dont you declare a war on them too?



    No stupid people in a cave are hijacking planes and crashing it into our buildings through our defense, its impossible. If it happens on our home land its all about old fashioned police work. They are attacking us here not over there in some cave.

    Ive supplied you with plenty of evidence that the government staged the entire attack. If you want to fight a war on terror you can start with **** Cheney and questioning him why the transportation security testified that **** Cheney gave the stand down order when the plane was 10 minutes away from the Pentagon.

    And speaking of Afganastan, how about the Military and CIA stop growing all the poppy plants. In 2001 the poppy production was almost eliminated by the Taliban and now Afgan supplies 90% of the worlds population and the Military is helping the locals grow it.

    Now your stuck on "falsified" documents, go to the Library of Congress and steal these documents since you think they are fake so the public cant view them anymore.
    I'm done talking to you, because you just proved to me that you are an idiot. The military and CIA are not growing poppy plants. The Taliban employ these local farmers to grow the stuff for them so that they can fund their organization. The military and CIA can so easily go in and destroy all these crops but we choose not to because we are trying to build a good relationship with the locals. We know it's wrong but our main objective is the Taliban and by getting in good with the locals, they will eventually help us in locating Taliban members. Plus, by leaving the fields alone, we can watch and see who all comes there to collect the stuff and then we just follow where they go to lead us to more Taliban members.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    I'm done talking to you, because you just proved to me that you are an idiot. The military and CIA are not growing poppy plants. The Taliban employ these local farmers to grow the stuff for them so that they can fund their organization. The military and CIA can so easily go in and destroy all these crops but we choose not to because we are trying to build a good relationship with the locals. We know it's wrong but our main objective is the Taliban and by getting in good with the locals, they will eventually help us in locating Taliban members.
    Im an "idiot" Oh my gosh do you realize what you are just saying? So its ok for the Military and the CIA to help the locals grow it and export it, but we the American people are criminals if we get caught with it. 90% of the worlds population's poppy plants and you think this is your job?

    Do you know how much money is involved when it comes to 90% of the worlds poppy production? Follow the money, where do you think those billions of dollars are going?

    Lets spend billions of dollars growing poppy plants, and then we can spend billions of more tax dollars fighting it with the war on drugs on our home land? great!

    Here is the Military admitting it to helping the afgans grow the poppy!!!


  17. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    I'm done talking to you, because you just proved to me that you are an idiot. The military and CIA are not growing poppy plants. The Taliban employ these local farmers to grow the stuff for them so that they can fund their organization. The military and CIA can so easily go in and destroy all these crops but we choose not to because we are trying to build a good relationship with the locals.
    So you wanna call me an idiot over and over again when I supply multiple admissions from the military that they are helping to grow the poppy?

    I have a blast for you here vvv now continue to attempt to insult my intelligence because I have an endless supply of resources to prove you wrong.

    Its American policy to help the afgans grow poppy!

    US Military Helping Afghan Farmers Grow Opium Poppies! The Military encourages poppy production!

    Evidence-1 example Military even paying afgans $1,000 on video after their own afgan forces destroy their poppys our tax dollars to to them for re-reimbursement. Much more in this short video Military is running the biggest drug operation in the history of mankind.

    So its ok for the Military and CIA to grow poppy for heroin, but we will spend billions on the "war on drugs" here at home so we can arrest you if they catch you with it.

    This is how the CIA funds its operations off the books...but lets arrest the Taliban who tried to eliminate all poppy production (2001 almost all poppy wiped out, its a fact) we dont want the Taliban making money just the CIA and White House.


  18. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Their careers are safe...they are only told to run orders.

    The only thing they risk is their credibility with the American people since they covered up the operation as fast as possible by dumping the body and lying saying that muslims are buried at sea out of religious tradition.

    I know the government isnt stupid enough to kill Bin Laden. If he is your #1 man, and torture led to information to his capture, woudnt the government want to be responsible and catch him alive? Then they can torture him so he can reveal all the information about all the other terrorists to prevent another terrorist attack everybody is so concerned about.

    Isnt it a tragedy that we had our # 1 guy, and interrogating him can lead to the capture of other terrorists and planned operations? I dont think so, the military is not that stupid.

    You have to understand that when the White House releases old video's of Bin Laden and claim they are new and from this "compound" we know this is just a huge cover up. Just more lies its endless.
    You obviously don't know much about how the military works. Which is fine, the majority of people that are not in the military don't. You're right the military isn't stupid. But if you think Bin Laden would talk in an interrogation, you are so wrong. When it comes to that, the majority of the American people are pretty stupid and naive. He would not give up one bit of information. I have done many interrogations and it's not easy like everybody back at home thinks. I know that everybody thinks interrogations go down like on CSI or Law and Order. Well they don't. These terrorists don't break right away like they do on those TV shows and I have spent hours and I mean hours like 18 hours straight interrogating people before they eventually give you something to go off of. Some don't break until days later, others within a few hours. And the careers I was referring to were the ones on the SEAL team that did the mission.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Im an "idiot" Oh my gosh do you realize what you are just saying? So its ok for the Military and the CIA to help the locals grow it and export it, but we the American people are criminals if we get caught with it. 90% of the worlds population's poppy plants and you think this is your job?

    Do you know how much money is involved when it comes to 90% of the worlds poppy production? Follow the money, where do you think those billions of dollars are going?

    Lets spend billions of dollars growing poppy plants, and then we can spend billions of more tax dollars fighting it with the war on drugs on our home land? great!

    Here is the Military admitting it to helping the afgans grow the poppy!!!

    Yeah, you are an idiot because as I stated before and as that Marine in your video states, we don't help them grow the poppy plants, we try to help them find other crops to grow and other means to make money. We tolerate it because we are trying to win the locals hearts and minds and by providing them with security and not destroying their crops, the locals don't hate us.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    You obviously don't know much about how the military works. Which is fine, the majority of people that are not in the military don't. You're right the military isn't stupid. But if you think Bin Laden would talk in an interrogation, you are so wrong. When it comes to that, the majority of the American people are pretty stupid and naive. He would not give up one bit of information. I have done many interrogations and it's not easy like everybody back at home thinks. I know that everybody thinks interrogations go down like on CSI or Law and Order. Well they don't. These terrorists don't break right away like they do on those TV shows and I have spent hours and I mean hours like 18 hours straight interrogating people before they eventually give you something to go off of. Some don't break until days later, others within a few hours. And the careers I was referring to were the ones on the SEAL team that did the mission.
    Right...give up before trying. It takes too long. It takes too long to interrogate and get information that may save the United States from another major terrorist attack that can cost the lives of thousands if not millions of Americans.

    You "have the man" who is the #1 criminal on the planet, but dont even try your torture tactics which so many in the White House support and prove to be effective. Your telling me thats how the military works?

    **** Cheney would even disagree with you.

    Bin Laden is flesh and blood just like the rest of us....If any information he would spill it will be all his CIA connections which I can prove over and over again.

    By the way, there is no evidence Bin Laden had anything to even do with 9/11. Nothing. Not that I like him, he still is (or was until his death in 2001) a CIA operative.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    So you wanna call me an idiot over and over again when I supply multiple admissions from the military that they are helping to grow the poppy?

    I have a blast for you here vvv now continue to attempt to insult my intelligence because I have an endless supply of resources to prove you wrong.

    Its American policy to help the afgans grow poppy!

    US Military Helping Afghan Farmers Grow Opium Poppies! The Military encourages poppy production!

    Evidence-1 example Military even paying afgans $1,000 on video after their own afgan forces destroy their poppys our tax dollars to to them for re-reimbursement. Much more in this short video Military is running the biggest drug operation in the history of mankind.

    So its ok for the Military and CIA to grow poppy for heroin, but we will spend billions on the "war on drugs" here at home so we can arrest you if they catch you with it.

    This is how the CIA funds its operations off the books...but lets arrest the Taliban who tried to eliminate all poppy production (2001 almost all poppy wiped out, its a fact) we dont want the Taliban making money just the CIA and White House.

    You people and the news tends to misinterpret everything. When ever the military destroys anything of the locals, whether it be a farm animal, house or even their damn poppy field, we pay them to reimburse them of the damages that we caused. It has nothing to do with us funding them to make poppy fields. And the Taliban has never tried to eliminate their poppy fields because that is a major funding for their organization.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    You people and the news tends to misinterpret everything. When ever the military destroys anything of the locals, whether it be a farm animal, house or even their damn poppy field, we pay them to reimburse them of the damages that we caused. It has nothing to do with us funding them to make poppy fields. And the Taliban has never tried to eliminate their poppy fields because that is a major funding for their organization.
    Well thank you for spending billions of dollars creating 90% of the worlds population's poppy plants, so we can spend billions of dollars more on the war on drugs on our homeland.

    There is nothing better that can be accomplished in 10 years in afganastan.

    Do you know President Karzai's brother is the #1 poppy drug lord in Afganastan? Continue supporting his family too, make sure all his poppy is safe. But be sure to criminalize the American people if they get caught with a $20 piece of heroin in their car.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Right...give up before trying. It takes too long. It takes too long to interrogate and get information that may save the United States from another major terrorist attack that can cost the lives of thousands if not millions of Americans.

    You "have the man" who is the #1 criminal on the planet, but dont even try your torture tactics which so many in the White House support and prove to be effective. Your telling me thats how the military works?

    **** Cheney would even disagree with you.

    Bin Laden is flesh and blood just like the rest of us....If any information he would spill it will be all his CIA connections which I can prove over and over again.

    By the way, there is no evidence Bin Laden had anything to even do with 9/11. Nothing. Not that I like him, he still is (or was until his death in 2001) a CIA operative.
    Wow, that is just rich. Keep it coming because all you are doing is just proving your ingnorance. Like I said, if you have never done an interrogation yourself, then don't come to me with that bs about trying to interrogate Bin Laden. And why should you or the American people give a rats a$$ how we extract the information from these a$$holes that are terrorists trying to kill innocent people? Terrorists have no rights and don't follow the Geneva Convention.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Well thank you for spending billions of dollars creating 90% of the worlds population's poppy plants, so we can spend billions of dollars more on the war on drugs on our homeland.

    There is nothing better that can be accomplished in 10 years in afganastan.

    Do you know President Karzai's brother is the #1 poppy drug lord in Afganastan? Continue supporting his family too, make sure all his poppy is safe. But be sure to criminalize the American people if they get caught with a $20 piece of heroin in their car.
    Until you've been there or even fought in any kind of a war, then don't come to me with your righteous bs on how we should do things. War isn't pretty and has never been and never will be.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    And why should you or the American people give a rats a$$ how we extract the information from these a$$holes that are terrorists trying to kill innocent people? Terrorists have no rights and don't follow the Geneva Convention.
    Because we pay your salary and we have a right to know how our money is spent.

    Most importantly its the American peoples responsibility to make sure our Military isnt put in harms way for no reason.

    We also have a right to extract information which is has been in the works proving the government was involved with the terrorist acts of 9/11 so your focus is on something rather irrelevant.

    Please read the U. S. Constitution...Every man has rights. Geneva convention is bs NWO globalist garbage...The U. S. Constitution is the American way not some global organization and their laws.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Until you've been there or even fought in any kind of a war, then don't come to me with your righteous bs on how we should do things. War isn't pretty and has never been and never will be.
    Are you claiming a Military dictatorship with this statement?

    We are tax payers, we fund your operations...we are as much involved with this as you are. To not be involved is to be an ignorant American.

    War isnt pretty, and its up to the American people to protect the troops from shoddy corrupt criminal government thats puts them in wars based off of false flag operations and lied to invade other countries (WMD's and Iraq for example.)

    The troops best protection are the taxpayers supporting them. Im a patriot, and you have no right telling me not to be involved with my country.

  27. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Because we pay your salary and we have a right to know how our money is spent.

    Most importantly its the American peoples responsibility to make sure our Military isnt put in harms way for no reason.

    We also have a right to extract information which is has been in the works proving the government was involved with the terrorist acts of 9/11 so your focus is on something rather irrelevant.

    Please read the constitution...Every man has rights. Geneva convention is bs NWO globalist garbage...The constitution is the American way not some global organization and their laws.
    The constitution only pertains to Americans living in America, you dumba$$. Also, the government pays our salary and we get taxed just like you so don't give me that bs. If you want to get technical, the military pays it's own salary from the taxes that gets taken out of our paychecks. And the Geneva Convention was put into effect to protect soldiers, not just American soldiers but all that follow it no matter what country you are from.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    The constitution only pertains to Americans living in America, you dumba$$. Also, the government pays our salary and we get taxed just like you so don't give me that bs. If you want to get technical, the military pays it's own salary from the taxes that gets taken out of our paychecks. And the Geneva Convention was put into effect to protect soldiers, not just American soldiers but all that follow it no matter what country you are from.
    Constitution is our guide for Foreign Policy, its obvious you dont know much about it.
    http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0707e.asp

    The Government get their money from the American tax payers, thats how they have money to pay you.

    You claim the Military pays its own salary because they tax you...so your saying you get taxed more than you make so you lose money?

  29. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Are you claiming a Military dictatorship with this statement?

    We are tax payers, we fund your operations...we are as much involved with this as you are. To not be involved is to be an ignorant American.

    War isnt pretty, and its up to the American people to protect the troops from shoddy corrupt criminal government thats puts them in wars based off of false flag operations and lied to invade other countries (WMD's and Iraq for example.)

    The troops best protection are the taxpayers supporting them. Im a patriot, and you have no right telling me not to be involved with my country.
    Military people are tax payers also so we pretty much fund our own operations. And don't worry, I'm pretty sure we can take care of ourselves. Everybody knows, or at least should know, when joining the military that their is a 90% chance that they will be deployed to go fight in some war when there is one taking place. You can support your country but when you make some wacked out claims about the military supporting a drug trade, that's taking it too far and is out of proportion.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    And the Geneva Convention was put into effect to protect soldiers, not just American soldiers but all that follow it no matter what country you are from.
    You stand up for the Geneva convention and you dont even believe in its policies...(or even know it if you think this is just about the troops)

    Grave breaches

    "willfully depriving someone of the right to a fair trial"

    So there you go, you support the Geneva convention but dont follow it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JerseyDrew77 View Post
    Military people are tax payers also so we pretty much fund our own operations. And don't worry, I'm pretty sure we can take care of ourselves. Everybody knows, or at least should know, when joining the military that their is a 90% chance that they will be deployed to go fight in some war when there is one taking place. You can support your country but when you make some wacked out claims about the military supporting a drug trade, that's taking it too far and is out of proportion.
    You cannot fund your own operations by taxing 25% of your paychecks. Government has to come up with the money to pay you in the first place so then they can tax you. That tax money isnt enough to cover 100% of salary. Your thinking impossible economics.

    Im not making wacked claims...the Military is making the claims themselves, dont be mad at me. I have them on record admitting their support for the poppy production and its up 90% of the entire world supply. Who is getting all the profits? I know who is but who do you think is?
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